WWE Raw & Smackdown Weekly Thread

I wonder if they'll show those SmackDown "bloopers" - for want of a better word.
 
-- The Wrestling Observer Newsletter is reporting that most wrestlers in WWE are not taking the new **** testing policy seriously. Many wrestlers who use steroids do so with a ************ given by them from their doctor, the official reason being to help recover from an injury.

-- PWInsider is reporting that Paul Heyman and WWE have had at least one meeting about his contract renewal. However, Heyman has yet to re-sign with them and it’s unknown whether he will. Apparently the problems between Stephanie McMahon and Paul Heyman still are not smoothed over, despite the company offering him a new contract. We’ll keep you updated on the situation.


I have just one thing to say on Heyman, and that is Vince is letting STeph f*ck up the company by allowing her to have so much leway when it comes to the above situation.
 
americanharley said:
-- The Wrestling Observer Newsletter is reporting that most wrestlers in WWE are not taking the new **** testing policy seriously. Many wrestlers who use steroids do so with a ************ given by them from their doctor, the official reason being to help recover from an injury.
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Certain performers will escape the testing just like in 1992. Too many performers on the current roster are on the juice..cetrain guys in 92` lost size and muscle mass after comming off them without mentioning names, and the new guys wont want that happening to them..
 
Superfly said:
Certain performers will escape the testing just like in 1992. Too many performers on the current roster are on the juice..cetrain guys in 92` lost size and muscle mass after comming off them without mentioning names, and the new guys wont want that happening to them..
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Another problem is, this is what spectators or non-wrestling fans think about wrestling, they think they are all steriod pumped idiots out there making fools of themseleves. I really can't stand the steriod users, but what can you do:dunno: Whenever I think about it, I think about some of the smaller superstars who are the best at their job. Like HBK, obviously no steriods but he has held his own against every possible opponent, and that is what wrestling can be about, but isn't perceived by others.
 
americanharley said:
Another problem is, this is what spectators or non-wrestling fans think about wrestling, they think they are all steriod pumped idiots out there making fools of themseleves. I really can't stand the steriod users, but what can you do:dunno: Whenever I think about it, I think about some of the smaller superstars who are the best at their job. Like HBK, obviously no steriods but he has held his own against every possible opponent, and that is what wrestling can be about, but isn't perceived by others.
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Yeah guys like HBK and Bret 'Hitman' Hart may never have got pushed as main eventers 10 years ago if things hadnt happened like they did. Perhaps this **** testing in the **** of what happened to Eddie will see more 'natural' performers comming into the limelight, who knows..hopefully.
 
I can't believe wwe has let Shelton Benjamin become a jobber,a huge mistake on wwe's part, he should be a main eventer and people like lashley and the masterpiece are getting a push i don't think they deserve.
 
Theres another move back to the "big guys" in Wrestling. In the late 90s, there was a move away from the super buff people into the smaller faster wrestlers (Mic ability is always the best seller, naturally). Since Goldberg, I'd say that whole trend has been solidified with Brock Lesner, Batista, Masters and now Lashley.

Shelton Benjamin is a great wrestler, everyone know that but he doesn't have any decent angles. Even "his momma" angle isn't going to anything but maybe who knows (Cat's "somebody betta call my momma" was hugely popular and it was just a phrase). But gimmicks like that are the sort that stick the wrestler to dark matches eventually and usually mid-card in their prime.
 
Slam said:
Theres another move back to the "big guys" in Wrestling. In the late 90s, there was a move away from the super buff people into the smaller faster wrestlers (Mic ability is always the best seller, naturally). Since Goldberg, I'd say that whole trend has been solidified with Brock Lesner, Batista, Masters and now Lashley.

Shelton Benjamin is a great wrestler, everyone know that but he doesn't have any decent angles. Even "his momma" angle isn't going to anything but maybe who knows (Cat's "somebody betta call my momma" was hugely popular and it was just a phrase). But gimmicks like that are the sort that stick the wrestler to dark matches eventually and usually mid-card in their prime.
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Yeah too true..they need to push really talented guys like him & Rob Van Damn.
 
I defintely agree with you guys, but the WWE still feels the way to go is with the big guys. I enjoy watching guys like Lesnar, Batista, Goldberg, etc. but size isn't everything.

IMO if they want to be "entertainment they should get a real cruiserweight division. Do you guys remember the luchadors from WCW? They were all small guys but they could give you some of the best wrestling matches.

And not just an enhanced division. They have so many talents on their roster that aren't holding titles or are in top story angles.
 
americanharley said:
I defintely agree with you guys, but the WWE still feels the way to go is with the big guys. I enjoy watching guys like Lesnar, Batista, Goldberg, etc. but size isn't everything.

IMO if they want to be "entertainment they should get a real cruiserweight division. Do you guys remember the luchadors from WCW? They were all small guys but they could give you some of the best wrestling matches.

And not just an enhanced division. They have so many talents on their roster that aren't holding titles or are in top story angles.
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I have to say you can understand those opposed to the brand split, because its the storylines that are suffering aswell..far too weak and spread too thin. Maybe not so many PPV's would make them stronger in content also?

The idea to merge the brands, improve storylines & the roster overall could be a good one BUT they need to push the right people. I also like TNA's approach to having a more wrestling based programme and less mic time.

To me there is no reason why WWE should not be as huge as it was back in say 98-2000 because they have the talent just are not using it correctly. Does not help as Harley has said people like Stephanie are making creative decisions when people like Paul Heyman should be.
 
Here's another pointless move(most likely from Steph's side of the creative team):

-- It looks like Murdoch will be permanently broken away from Cade in order to receiver a major singles push.
 
What WWE should do is make Raw and Smackdown even more different. If you want big, beefy guys, throw them on Raw where they'll benefit from the live enviroment. Throw the speedy and talented on Smackdown where the production team can make them look that much more amazing. Make the two products that much more different and beef up the rosters with new wrestlers instead of seeing the same series over and over again.
 
Ashley wasn't my favorite in the entire Diva search, neither was Christy, but that aside, the last question from that interview only means one thing: She's going to be out of WWE once her contract ends. Her answer to the Playboy question suggests that she'll do it and if she does, it only takes one look at history and see what happens to all the Divas that pose in the magazine.
 
Slam said:
Ashley wasn't my favorite in the entire Diva search, neither was Christy, but that aside, the last question from that interview only means one thing: She's going to be out of WWE once her contract ends. Her answer to the Playboy question suggests that she'll do it and if she does, it only takes one look at history and see what happens to all the Divas that pose in the magazine.
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WWE Diva+Playboy=employment with WWE trouble.:2 cents: As much as I would like to see her spread, you can't help but think that if Ms. Keibler did Playboy, she would follow some of the others paths:(
 
Trish and Stacy both have refused multiple times to do Playboy and have gone out on record as saying they'll never do it. So, I think we can rest assure with that much. They need to give Stacy a storyline tho.
 
Slam said:
Trish and Stacy both have refused multiple times to do Playboy and have gone out on record as saying they'll never do it. So, I think we can rest assure with that much. They need to give Stacy a storyline tho.
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Oh trust me I know of Trish and Stacy's situations and feelings on Playboy.:cool:

I agree about Stacy's storyline, but what would they have her do. She's on Smackdown, so that cancels the Women's title, she isn't really a wrestler, but more of the one that gets stripped in all the matches(not a bad thing though:thumbsup: )Maybe have her go back to Ms. Hancock and manage someone. For now, I believe they use her more at the house shows than on tv.:(
 
Looks like Juvi Juice is still not fitting in WWE


-- The Wrestling Observer Newsletter reports that Juventud suggested to the SmackDown writers that he has his own talk show on SD titled ‘The Juice Is Loose’. It doesn’t look like that one will be happening. He has also suggested a Mask vs. Mask program with Rey Mysterio and himself. When they brought up the fact that Juventud doesn’t even wear a mask, he said he could wear one just for that feud.

When it was brought up that all of his ideas were for himself and not the Mexicools, he said that Psicosis and Super Crazy aren’t in his league and he should be up with the top guys like Mysterio. This is obviously not helping cool off all of the heat he has been getting backstage. Nobody will travel with him anymore except Cowboy Bob Orton.

When talking about Juvi, JBL recently said “Don’t waste your time with him. He’s a retard. He’s hopeless.”
 
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