Why does the U.S. military overwhelmingly favor republicans?

[sean miguel]

in how they vote. Even with Trump?

What does that say, that those who are putting their lives on the line at the orders of the Commander-In-Chief prefer republicans over democrats?

 

[Mr. Daystar]

Because democrats usually cut their funding.

 

[sean miguel]

those who have the most at stake would rather have a republican commander-in-chief.

 

[zeeblofowl_1969]

those who have the most at stake would rather have a republican commander-in-chief.

Brain washing.
This bizarre idea that military people are somehow enlightened is just goofy.
There are certainly exceptional people doing exceptional things in the military but I can name 20 goofy dudes just in my town who spent considerable time in the military and are just a waste off life.

 

[wdoall]

I actually know more service men and women who support Democrats than I do Republicans.

 

[Mayhem]

What is your source that the military votes more Republican?

During my time there was to indication that either Party was "overwhelmingly" favored. When I was at Ft. Bliss, Dukakis was getting all kinds of love (which drove me up the wall). When I was in Korea, Clinton seemed to be pretty popular.

Conversely and linked to this, I never detected any more animosity towards gays than you see anywhere else. Remembering this particular time period ('87-'95), there was no push for "accepting" them, but if they wanted to join and got in, no one was that troubled by it. In other words, the people on TV were a lot louder than the people in the trenches.

Anyway, I'd like to see some evidence before I'm led to believe that the military votes more than...I dunno....55-58% Republican.

Always keep in mind, lots of blacks, lots of Hispanics.

 

[meesterperfect]

Well going back to Vietnam soldiers knew that Democrat PREZ LBJ was not going to get them out of there so they put their hope in Republican Nixon. Too bad it took him 6 years to do it but then again if he had really tried he would have probably been shot.
Lots of money to be made in that war. Had to milk it to the very end.

With Bush they were, like most of us, still brainwashed into thinking that 9/11 was a valid reason to invade Iraq and Afghanistan. Of course we now know the real reason for attacking Iraq was because Saddam got the ok to sell his oil for whatever currency he wanted, not only for The Dollar, so he had to be killed. Can't have that now.
That was the main reason but Iraq was part of the Project for a New American Century and The Greater israel Project so it was going to be destroyed no matter what. 9/11, or "The New Pearl Harbor" as they called it was just a coincidental but yet perfect excuse to go to war.
Afghanistan, that's easy. Heroin. Lots of money in that stuff. Can't let them A-Rabs make all that dough by themselves. It's unAmerican.

But now with Trump and HC it's obvious why they want Trump.
For one thing like almost all people with brains that function at at least 50% they despise and distrust HC.
They also know that HC is a true Neocon Warhawk who will probably get them violently killed.
They do want to finish their service in one piece and see their families again.

 

[Ace Boobtoucher]

Most guys I served with couldn't stand the stupid rules of engagement (which were pretty stupid under both Bushes but sacrosanct whenever a democrat is in office). Waiting for someone to fire at you makes no fucking sense. If they have a weapon and make a furtive movement, that should be enough to start shooting. But the pussies in the Clinton administration didn't think that our job was hard enough. In Haiti, for instance. We weren't allowed to have ammunition in our weapons. So if something happened quickly, time would be wasted loading up. And the punk-ass-bitches in that fucked up administration didn't know how to properly deploy us or retaliate in a way that would make goat fuckers think twice about pulling the tiger's tail again. Bill Clinton's asshole of a wife didn't hide her disdain for uniformed servicemen. She's known to have cursed them out for simply saying "Good morning, ma'am." She thinks of them as "the help" if she thinks of them at all. Stompy Foot and his wife Zira treat them markedly better but they've also seriously curtailed their funding and shown more appreciation for traitorous scumbags and trannies than for people who actually serve honorably, ie the court martial of that guy who struck a corrupt Iraqi policeman or whatever the fuck that guy did. There's the promise that democrats always make to cut spending and shrink the military. But generally it's the perception that a democrat in that office will try their hardest to make life for every grunt more difficult.

 

[sean miguel]

http://www.militarytimes.com/story/...-donald-trump-beats-hillary-clinton/84132402/

 

[sean miguel]

Interesting. I'm looking into this now. There's the perception that military personnel lean republican. Veterans definitely do. Romney won the veteran vote by 20 pts. But among active duty personnel, the officer corps are more republican whereas the enlisted more resemble the general population - 30/25/45 conservative/ liberal/ independent split or whatever it is.

 

[Mayhem]

Interesting. I'm looking into this now. There's the perception that military personnel lean republican. Veterans definitely do. Romney won the veteran vote by 20 pts. But among active duty personnel, the officer corps are more republican whereas the enlisted more resemble the general population - 30/25/45 conservative/ liberal/ independent split or whatever it is.

That aligns closer to my experience. Mind you, I'm not challenging the assertion of this thread, I'm just questioning "overwhelmingly".

 

[BCsSecretAlias]

animus,
You'd be better served by discussing this topic with an actual veteran like Ace.. or the old salt down the street.

 

[sean miguel]

animus,
You'd be better served by discussing this topic with an actual veteran like Ace.. or the old salt down the street.

No offense BC, but I'm not getting in the middle of that one. You have your reasons for doubting his service and not that mayhem needs mine or anyone else's validation, I have to take him at his word. Especially as someone who's never served myself. Regardless of what I may think of him (and trading barbs on a porn forum means absolutely nothing to me) he should be honored for his service.

 

[Mayhem]

I was wondering when the shitbag who begged and pleaded to have his perma-ban lifted, that derails threads and would rather make everything personal, was going to happen along.

And yes Animus, you would be better of keeping the non-veterans out of this. Like a certain alcoholic draft-dodger. How're those bonespurs doing BC? Keeping them properly medicated?

"Oh, I don't want to subject the rest of the board to our feud (sniffle). I just want to give peace a ..... hold on, it's time for my hourly handful of Prozac.....anyway, where was I?....oh yeah, fuck you Mayhem....you're not a vet and fuck your job....and...what?....topic? what does the topic have to do with any of this?"

No offense BC, but I'm not getting in the middle of that one. You have your reasons for doubting his service and not that mayhem needs mine or anyone else's validation, I have to take him at his word. Especially as someone who's never served myself. Regardless of what I may think of him (and trading barbs on a porn forum means absolutely nothing to me) he should be honored for his service.

Thank you. I've been waiting for one fuckin' person to say exactly that. Cletus can continue this as long as he want, but if I was anyone else, I'd be getting pretty tired of it.

 

[BCsSecretAlias]

I was wondering when the shitbag who begged and pleaded to have his perma-ban lifted, that derails threads and would rather make everything personal, was going to happen along.

And yes Animus, you would be better of keeping the non-veterans out of this. Like a certain alcoholic draft-dodger. How're those bonespurs doing BC? Keeping them properly medicated?

"Oh, I don't want to subject the rest of the board to our feud (sniffle). I just want to give peace a ..... hold on, it's time for my hourly handful of Prozac.....anyway, where was I?....oh yeah, fuck you Mayhem....you're not a vet and fuck your job....and...what?....topic? what does the topic have to do with any of this?"


Thank you. I've been waiting for one fuckin' person to say exactly that. Cletus can continue this as long as he want, but if I was anyone else, I'd be getting pretty tired of it.

Or.. if all else fails we could quote ancient Chinese generals.

 

[BCsSecretAlias]

No offense BC, but I'm not getting in the middle of that one. You have your reasons for doubting his service and not that mayhem needs mine or anyone else's validation, I have to take him at his word. Especially as someone who's never served myself. Regardless of what I may think of him (and trading barbs on a porn forum means absolutely nothing to me) he should be honored for his service.

None taken, but as the son of a Marine who actually served in 2 theatres of war, and part of a Marine family that moved often and watched my dad leave for deployment not knowing if he would return, I'll question any god damn thing I like, especially when this shit stain who not only served about as many days as I have makes remarks about my father which is a pretty good indication that he never served a day as a real vet wouldn't let a flame war go personal toward a fellow veteran.

He's a fraud.

 

[Supafly]

That's how you keep it classy.

I could not join the army here when we still had the draft due to epilepsy.

I later learned that I could have sued for my right to do something in the troups, butwe had the alternative, civilian sevice, you might want to google "Zivildienst" and "Kriegsdienstverweiderer"

Today, I would have liked to join the troups, but at 52 and disabled, hell, they ain't THAT desperate.

Back on topic:

I would like to see actual statistics. And especially one of lately, with the "Trump Factor" acknowledged

 

[meesterperfect]

Statistics Statistics.
Don't people realize that 80% of all statistics are bogus?
And 90% are created to deceive you.
Look around, open your eyes, do some research.......Everything you need to know is out there without having to rely on some corporate created statistic.

 

[sean miguel]

Statistics Statistics.
Don't people realize that 80% of all statistics are bogus?

including that one?

 

[tvstrip]

Because democrats usually cut their funding.

I'm wondering if it's proof or coincidence that the same is happening in other parts of the world.

In Canada, the Conservatives were all for the mission in Iraq & purchase of the F-35s, and then when the Liberals won they ended the missions and promised to cancel the fighter purchase.
In Japan, Junichirō Koizumi (Liberal Democratic Party = Conservatives in Japan) was the first Japanese PM to visit Yasukuni Shine which honours fallen soldiers, and also deployed the Self-Defence forces to Iraq, which was basically the first time since WWII Japan's military was deployed outside of the country.