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Why did Romney lost ?

Why did Romney lost ?


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georges

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Because many people dislike the rich and like to live from taxes paid by other hardworking citizens so they can leech off healthcare and free social security. That is why
 
Abortion and LGBT rights - were the biggest kickers.... no way the GOP is ever going to succeed if they think these are issues of debate in the times ahead... additionally their push on the religious movement to please particulars, isn't going to hang with the newer generations who in turn feel otherwise on the separation of church and state.
 

bobjustbob

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Abortion and LGBT rights - were the biggest kickers.... no way the GOP is ever going to succeed if they think these are issues of debate in the times ahead... additionally their push on the religious movement to please particulars, isn't going to hang with the newer generations who in turn feel otherwise on the separation of church and state.

Can't agree here. The issues were the economy, unemployment, and Obamacare. Mitt offered nothing for the first 2 and wouldn't address the third because he had Romneycare.
 
One major point that helped is that Pres Obama is a great speaker and Gov Romney took quite awhile to find himself there.
 
The GOP will change itself and adapt to the new realities in this country. This election taught them that fact. There is already a younger group of Republican leaders white, hispanic and black who are taking the threshold.
 

Mayhem

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Conservatives Struggle To Explain How Mitt Romney Lost 2012 Presidential Election

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/...t-romney-presidential-election_n_2099504.html

Republicans across the country were shellshocked as President Barack Obama defeated Mitt Romney in Tuesday’s presidential election, finishing the race with 332 electoral votes and winning every battleground state except for North Carolina. The blame game began almost immediately, as Republicans looked to determine how a vulnerable incumbent like Obama had found a pathway to reelection.

The evidence behind the president’s victory points toward a stronger appeal to middle-class Americans, one of the most formidable ground games in the history of politics, and serious failures within the GOP to attract Latino and women voters. But a faction of conservatives were having none of it -- offering up instead a series of explanations for their nominee’s loss, rounded up below:

The media selectively reported Romney's gaffes.
In an op-ed posted to Fox News, Rich Noyes of the conservative Media Research Center slammed the “media’s biased gaffe patrol” for only magnifying every alleged Romney gaffe while failing to treat the president’s missteps equally. “When Obama infamously declared, 'You didn’t build that,' ABC, CBS, NBC didn’t report the politically damaging remark for four days,” Noyes wrote. In contrast, the Republican National Committee pounced on the remarks, selectively editing them for use in advertising, and even building an entire convention theme around the out of context quote. In the end, instead of turning on Obama, some voters reacted to the remarks by saying the words in context made them feel more positive about the president.

Fact-checkers were biased.
Noyes, in his mostly bizarre reading of the GOP ticket’s loss, also took aim at bias among the fact-checkers who essentially did their jobs and truth-teamed the Romney campaign's factual misstatements. Noyes honed in on Paul Ryan’s tale about the closure of a General Motors plant at the GOP Convention -- widely criticized as misleading -- arguing the vice-presidential nominee was “correct in all the details.” Noyes curiously left out that Ryan later backpedaled on his own claim, or that on more than one occasion, the Romney campaign was at times called out by its own surrogates for engaging in dishonest attacks.

Hurricane Isaac hit the Tampa convention.
Christopher Ruddy at Newsmax bemoaned that Hurricane Isaac washed away the first day of the GOP convention, and subsequently all of Romney’s presidential aspirations. The storm “seriously disrupted the official schedule,” he wrote, prompting Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) and Romney’s heartfelt biographical video to be bumped from prime-time TV coverage. It was up to the Romney campaign and the RNC to make the best use of their condensed convention -- which, shortened to three days, was still the same length as the Democratic National Convention in Charlotte. Instead of keeping Rubio in a prime-time spot, they chose instead to allow Clint Eastwood to walk onstage before a national TV audience and shout at an empty chair.

Romney was too nice.
Ruddy offered another explanation as part of his reflection on what went wrong: “Obama's ads were nasty, negative ones, while Romney's were of the kinder, gentler, country-club Republican variety.” It’s true that the Obama campaign hammered away at Romney’s business record, but it’s also true that it was Romney who used his career in private enterprise as the centerpiece of his candidacy. The Romney campaign also falsely accused the president of ending the work requirement in welfare and, in the final days leading up to the election, implied in an ad that Chrysler was moving its Jeep production to China under Obama’s watch. Amid the barrage of advertising that dominated swing-state airwaves throughout the cycle, it’s safe to say that both sides churned out plenty of negative attacks.

Hurricane Sandy and Chris Christie get the blame.
Even before Romney lost the election, his aides preemptively blamed a potential loss on the storm that devastated parts of the East Coast. They even quietly decried top Romney surrogate New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie for lavishing the president with praise over his response efforts. In the aftermath of the election, conservatives appear to have gone from disappointed in Christie to flat-out exiling him from the GOP establishment.

Robert Stacy McCain wrote in the American Spectator:

The list of fools who have brought this disaster upon us certainly also will include New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, the gelatinous clown who (a) hogged up a prime time spot at the Republican convention to sing his own praises; (b) embraced Obama as the hero of Hurricane Sandy; and (c) then refused to appear at campaign events in support of Romney's presidential campaign. Good luck with the remainder of your political future, governor. It is unlikely Republicans shall soon forget your perfidious betrayal.


But as Ezra Klein points out, the “Hurricane Sandy and Chris Christie won Obama the election” theory is inherently flawed. Moreover, there is little evidence to support the notion that Romney’s momentum was lost in the wake of the hurricane. Most polling indicated he had lost it by the second presidential debate.

Obama won by “suppressing the vote.”
GOP strategist Karl Rove, who was one of the first to pin Romney’s loss on Hurricane Sandy, concluded that Obama actually “succeeded by suppressing the vote” -- in other words, the president somehow prevented voters from casting their ballots. Rove did not fully explain his claim, perhaps because there is literally no evidence to support it, but instead insisted that the Obama campaign engaged in the sort of character assassination from which Romney never fully recovered. But the best was yet to come: Rove said the Romney campaign did not adequately defend itself against the attacks on the GOP nominee’s business record, prompting Rove’s super PAC to give it a shot. “We don't do defense all that well,” Rove concluded, somehow failing to mention that his two groups, American Crossroads and Crossroads GPS, spent a combined $300 million on the 2012 race.

Romney wasn’t conservative enough.
This one was bound to happen. Romney, the once moderate Republican who served as governor of Massachusetts, lost because he tried too hard to be a centrist, some said. The effort by Romney to appeal to moderate-minded Americans in an increasingly progressive society left some conservative leaders so furious that they “vowed to wage a war to put the Tea Party in charge of the Republican Party by the time it nominates its next presidential candidate,” according to The Hill.

But the trajectory of Romney’s campaign tells an entirely different story: The GOP nominee spent nearly 17 months walking away from the positions he once held while presiding over blue state Massachusetts in a tireless bid to win over the conservative base. It wasn’t until the final month of the race, namely the first presidential debate, that Romney pivoted to the center in a last-stage effort to court independent and undecided voters. If anything, Romney’s attempt to appear centrist was too little too late for a populace that smacked down Tea Party candidates on Election Day.

Americans are basically ignorant.
Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wisc.) said on Thursday that the president’s win was decided by an uninformed electorate -- even though voters had more access to information in 2012 than in any past election cycle. Johnson also neglected to mention the record spending on the part of Republicans to disseminate their message -- a message that ultimately lost out to that of Obama and his Democratic allies.
 
I find it interesting that the one major thing lacking in this is any level of self-evaluation. It couldn't possibly because the GOP is so fractured, that Governor Romney and his running mate were both relatively weak candidates (heck look how long it took for the party to choose Romney as the candidate - it was "anyone but Romney" for a while), or that the candidate did, in fact, flip-flop over major issues quite a few times. Clearly it is everyone's fault but theirs.

They need to do some serious self examination, and soon, in order to rebuild what is, in my opinion, a seriously failing party.
 
To all of you hypocrite fake conservatives everywhere,there ARE NO REAL CONSERVATIVES!ROMNEY lost because the masses could see right thru him, & all the other fakes,like Dejardines in Tennessee,he a repub. US congressman there who's stauchly anti-abortion for every reason including rape.He's a moral majority advocate & married.So why am I mentioning this ultra conservative ? Because he's a fake like Ryan & Romney,he recently knocked up his bitch he's cheating on his wife with, & now he's persuading her to get an ABORTION!!!!!For those of you who think of themselves as conservatives here ,why are you on this site?Romney supporter & Santorum supporters, they would shut Americans acceess to this site down as soon as they could,they said it!They want YOU to live by the standards they think are moral,but of course it does'nt apply to them,they are the elite nobility here.Carefull what you wish for ,it just might not be in your best interests!

The nation has spoken & most of the country bar the south,who don't realize that the BLUE states suport their economies.& they want less taxes!Again becarefull, the red states are full of hypocrites, so is Romney,he's a liar too ,just read how he said he & Ann had no money when they were first married.A crap load of Shit!His father gave him over 1 mil bucks in 1964 in GM stock!Net worth today, about 10 million $!!
 
I think neither was that strong of a candidate. Obama won by 2%. An electoral landslide, but the popular vote looked fairly close. A clear vitory, but not a ran away.

I think it was a matter of 4 years more of what we have or 4 years more of something really undefined. The Republican plans were sketchy at best. As Dirk pointed out, it took the Republicans a long time to figure out who their candidate was and by that time they beat him up pretty bad. Add the Tea Party folks into the mix that just scare some people and the outcome isn't all that surprising.

Put a stronger candidate than Obama in there and it would have been crushing. I don't think the masses are impressed with Obama, but do see him as the devil you know that would do less damage than what some of the folks from the right were spewing.

Either regroup and redefine a more centrist party in 4 years or come out with a "real" conservative and just let the party break up as it crashes into the rocks.
 
If BO was white he would have trounced Rawmoney.He's running up the popular vote at 500K & counting, HE WON GET OVER IT!!Only the Hillbilly welfare states voted for this fake,Rawmoney!'cause most there would love the clock turned back to the early 19th century ,if you can fathom the drift!!!!!He saved you ass from total melt down of this economy like that MORON Bush jr. & his administration of war & not pay for it destroyed this country! BUSH Jr. the idiot truly stole both elections!He was a puppet ,Rove & Cheney were the evil brains.Now you say BO is weak!At least he did things for th masses like a form of H/C hillbilly states have NREVER had & are agaist because a lot are inbread white racist!
 
Can't agree here. The issues were the economy, unemployment, and Obamacare. Mitt offered nothing for the first 2 and wouldn't address the third because he had Romneycare.

Sure, I wouldn't disagree on the points you mentioned - those were huge no doubt...
 
To all of you hypocrite fake conservatives everywhere,there ARE NO REAL CONSERVATIVES!ROMNEY lost because the masses could see right thru him, & all the other fakes,like Dejardines in Tennessee,he a repub. US congressman there who's stauchly anti-abortion for every reason including rape.He's a moral majority advocate & married.So why am I mentioning this ultra conservative ? Because he's a fake like Ryan & Romney,he recently knocked up his bitch he's cheating on his wife with, & now he's persuading her to get an ABORTION!!!!!For those of you who think of themselves as conservatives here ,why are you on this site?Romney supporter & Santorum supporters, they would shut Americans acceess to this site down as soon as they could,they said it!They want YOU to live by the standards they think are moral,but of course it does'nt apply to them,they are the elite nobility here.Carefull what you wish for ,it just might not be in your best interests!

The nation has spoken & most of the country bar the south,who don't realize that the BLUE states suport their economies.& they want less taxes!Again becarefull, the red states are full of hypocrites, so is Romney,he's a liar too ,just read how he said he & Ann had no money when they were first married.A crap load of Shit!His father gave him over 1 mil bucks in 1964 in GM stock!Net worth today, about 10 million $!!



Are you off your meds?
 
To all of you hypocrite fake conservatives everywhere,there ARE NO REAL CONSERVATIVES!ROMNEY lost because the masses could see right thru him, & all the other fakes,like Dejardines in Tennessee,he a repub. US congressman there who's stauchly anti-abortion for every reason including rape.He's a moral majority advocate & married.So why am I mentioning this ultra conservative ? Because he's a fake like Ryan & Romney,he recently knocked up his bitch he's cheating on his wife with, & now he's persuading her to get an ABORTION!!!!!For those of you who think of themselves as conservatives here ,why are you on this site?Romney supporter & Santorum supporters, they would shut Americans acceess to this site down as soon as they could,they said it!They want YOU to live by the standards they think are moral,but of course it does'nt apply to them,they are the elite nobility here.Carefull what you wish for ,it just might not be in your best interests!

The nation has spoken & most of the country bar the south,who don't realize that the BLUE states suport their economies.& they want less taxes!Again becarefull, the red states are full of hypocrites, so is Romney,he's a liar too ,just read how he said he & Ann had no money when they were first married.A crap load of Shit!His father gave him over 1 mil bucks in 1964 in GM stock!Net worth today, about 10 million $!!

Are you off your meds?
I have to agree with Trident here.:wtf:
 

vodkazvictim

Why save the world, when you can rule it?
Because many people dislike the rich and like to live from taxes paid by other hardworking citizens so they can leech off healthcare and free social security. That is why
:georges:
:facepalm:

Romney lost because he's more full of shit than a sewage works.
 
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