Who were you when the lights went out?

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Total nerd. Did you know that there's a club call "Junior Classical League"? Its a place for geeky teens studying Latin to compete against eachother about ancient Roman trivia. I still can't believe how much time I spent on that :anonymous

I can one-up you on that! Not only did I try to learn 4 foreign languages on my own for no good reason, but I had a D&D character that could've kicked anyone else's ass. His name was Balamber. He was a level 8 Dwarven Defender who wielded a 2-handed (+18,+20) Axe of Slaying, and he had a magically enhanced [+40] Multi-Colored Dragon Scale Armor. How's that for nerdy? :D
 

Jagger69

Three lullabies in an ancient tongue
I think that being cataloged as a "hippie" probably depended on where you were from. Am I right? I mean, what was considered radical in, say, Des Moines, Iowa wasn't the same thing that was considered radical in Berkeley or San Francisco.

Great question. As time went on in the counterculture movement that actually started with the "beatniks" of the 1950s, things began to water down with the addition of people who joined the movement strictly due to some of the hedonistic attractions that were rampant and easily-accessible back then....abandonment of responsibility, disdain for authority , lots of drugs and sex, etc. So, just like a lot of popular cultural movements, by the time the early-to-mid 70s rolled around, there were a lot of "hippies" that were clearly there just for the party. Where the definition really begins to clarify itself is when it comes to the political front I would say. You couldn't be a true "hippie" unless you were (sorry Georges) an anti-establishment, anti-war left-wing advocate of politics. I knew a lot of kids who had long hair and dressed the part....who loved to smoke dope and "ball" hippie chicks that also thought we should nuke Hanoi during the Vietnam war era. Those people aren't true "hippies" in my book....just opportunists.

To say, however, that there was a significant difference between a 60s radical in Berkeley or Des Moines is probably inaccurate. I remember a serious issue that took place at Washington University in St. Louis in that era when a group of anti-war activists firebomed the ROTC building on campus. It was a big deal that came straight out of the heartland of the country, not some "fruits and nuts" place like Berkeley. Every major city across the country had a faction of people who fit this hard-core profile.

I guess it depends on what criteria you would use to define what a "Hippie" was/is. To me, it was more of a political and philosophical definition rather than whether you liked to smoke dope, listen to acid rock and bang stoned-out braless chicks wearing halter tops and bell-bottoms. Somewhere, these definitions ceased to remain separated and, hence, you end up with the foul-smelling perversion of the genre to which you seem to be more closely exposed.
 
Great question. As time went on in the counterculture movement that actually started with the "beatniks" of the 1950s, things began to water down with the addition of people who joined the movement strictly due to some of the hedonistic attractions that were rampant and easily-accessible back then....abandonment of responsibility, disdain for authority , lots of drugs and sex, etc. So, just like a lot of popular cultural movements, by the time the early-to-mid 70s rolled around, there were a lot of "hippies" that were clearly there just for the party. Where the definition really begins to clarify itself is when it comes to the political front I would say. You couldn't be a true "hippie" unless you were (sorry Georges) an anti-establishment, anti-war left-wing advocate of politics. I knew a lot of kids who had long hair and dressed the part....who loved to smoke dope and "ball" hippie chicks that also thought we should nuke Hanoi during the Vietnam war era. Those people aren't true "hippies" in my book....just opportunists.

To say, however, that there was a significant difference between a 60s radical in Berkeley or Des Moines is probably inaccurate. I remember a serious issue that took place at Washington University in St. Louis in that era when a group of anti-war activists firebomed the ROTC building on campus. It was a big deal that came straight out of the heartland of the country, not some "fruits and nuts" place like Berkeley. Every major city across the country had a faction of people who fit this hard-core profile.

I guess it depends on what criteria you would use to define what a "Hippie" was/is. To me, it was more of a political and philosophical definition rather than whether you liked to smoke dope, listen to acid rock and bang stoned-out braless chicks wearing halter tops and bell-bottoms. Somewhere, these definitions ceased to remain separated and, hence, you end up with the foul-smelling perversion of the genre to which you seem to be more closely exposed.

I see. You're right, I have never been exposed to a hippie from anywhere other than SF. The ones that I've known that were from other parts of the country moved to SF to be at the heart of the movement, so I don't consider them being from outside of SF.

I once heard someone else say what you said about being a hippie meaning political advocacy. I agree with that point. Most of the young punks that call themselves hippies have either no political stance, or have mixed views on issues that are clear cut to the real hippies that I know.
 
You know what's ironic? The people who run the company formerly known as Bill Graham Presents, the company that launched such acts as Jimi Hendrix, Janis Joplin, The Grateful Dead, Jefferson Airplane, and many others, into fame, were mostly hippies in the 60's and 70's, but today they are mostly corporate ass-kissers who have "Property of Live Nation" branded on their souls. Oh, Bill is rolling over in his grave!

Oh! I forgot to mention that one of the company's big wigs, who was with Bill Graham from the beginning and claimed to be a hippie in the 60's, now proudly displays his like of the Grateful Dead by displaying a 2 inch Steal Your Face sticker on the back window of his convertible Lexus coupe. What a fucking douche bag.
 
I had a skinhead, 1 guard, and wore similar clothes, but loved dance music and was middle class.

What did that make me?
 
I was nerd and hippie for part of my teenage years, But most of it I was just a nerd! So I picked nerd!
 
Total nerd. Did you know that there's a club call "Junior Classical League"? Its a place for geeky teens studying Latin to compete against eachother about ancient Roman trivia. I still can't believe how much time I spent on that :anonymous

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I can one-up you on that! Not only did I try to learn 4 foreign languages on my own for no good reason, but I had a D&D character that could've kicked anyone else's ass. His name was Balamber. He was a level 8 Dwarven Defender who wielded a 2-handed (+18,+20) Axe of Slaying, and he had a magically enhanced [+40] Multi-Colored Dragon Scale Armor. How's that for nerdy? :D

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Torre82

Moderator \ Jannie
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Me? Antisocial angst demented lonely depressed endlessly-searching for a home old-soul who looked around and wondered why reality felt like a shrink wrapped dream.. to be completely honest.. in school I smiled when I heard about columbine.

I hated every last aspect of it all.. the social scene, the bullies and the bullied.. intelligence gets you nowhere and being a jerk gets you laid.. when the news broke that two unpopular kids went against the grain and payed back the people who had wronged them.. I noticed the popular kids started to fear the quiet D&D types, the fat kids.. anyone who they wouldve gotten a laugh off of and never gave a thought to the life they were scarring a day earlier.

And then.. time passed, I grew up and in many ways the whole scene is still the same. We all have our differences in angst.. but we're too tired or busy to act on it most of the time. A newfound comfort in quiet desperation which happily leads into a midlife crisis and longing for the youth in which they've now forgotten how badly it felt being helpless, pimply, unsure and misunderstood.

At least that's my take on it. ::kindly bows out::
 

meesterperfect

Hiliary 2020
I was a jock/surfer/hippie/rocker. Since I played sports in high school, surfed, smoked pot, and played drums in a band and listened to all different kinds of "rock" music (progressive, experimental, neo-psychedelia, alternative metal, oldies, etc.).

I'm still very much the same type of person. Just older and wiser.

wow tube except for the drums you've just described me also.
where did you surf at?
 
I put "jock". I was probably 50% jock, 30% nerd, 15% rocker and 5% punk. Nowadays I'm less of the first two and more of the last two.
 

slowhand

Closed Account
I was more jock then any of the rest listed. :thumbsup:
 
I still am a rocker, still play in a band, and can't yet see any light at the end of the tunnel :banger:
 
Ever notice that white supremacist represent the bottom of the intelligence gene pool. :confused:


Funny how that is. Scientists are trying to figure out how to isolate and remove the idiot gene. If efforts succeed they can catch it early at birth and the individual will be able to grow up into a decent human being, let's keep our fingers crossed.
 
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