Who Is Mark Lloyd?You should probably know.

[Galactic]

I believe that Al Franken wrote a whole book about lying. O'Reilly featured heavily in it. He was on the cover. He wanted to sue. His bosses told him not to. This was not because he would win, incase you are in any doubt.

Al Franken?! That's your source?! :1orglaugh

Whole documentary on how Fox lies called "outfoxed" from a few years ago.Much of it told by former employees of Fox news.Also you can go to google or Youtube and just put in "Fox lies" and get tons of examples.I think it's safe to say they lie or misrepresent the truth every day on their network.It's much worse than any other media I know of.

I googled FOX lies........I'm sorry, but one of the first results is from a website called jesus-is-savior.......yeeeaahhhhh.....good sources for the "lies".

 

[Dean Wormer]

You obviously don't watch him now.

Oh good he stopped that shtick, then? What about the crying I saw him doing?
Or that really cool Austrian lederhosen outfit that made even O'Reilly look like he was a bit uncomfortable?

 

[georges]

the obama administration is full of shit.

 

[Galactic]

Oh good he stopped that shtick, then? What about the crying I saw him doing?
Or that really cool Austrian lederhosen outfit that made even O'Reilly look like he was a bit uncomfortable?

C'mon, that shit was funny! :1orglaugh

 

[Hot Mega]

OK. To begin. Universal health care...sounded great, and I still believe the system we have now does need to be fixed....that being said, I did not anticipate a massive price tag like the one that comes with his.....and he still has not announced how he is going to pay for it....where do you think $1,000,000,000,000 is going to come from?

I'm torn on the GITMO debate....I really am........

I have no problem withdrawing from Iraq if the country is stable enough to support and defend itself now. However, I am not sure that is the case......

So lemme get this straight, because you're clueless on the issues you're no longer supporting a person you claimed to have voted for because POTUS Obama is doing exactly what candidate Obama said he was going to do???

Not sure what's in your personal library but "voting for dummies" ought to be among your collection

You mentioned bipartisanship.....how has he done that? By surrounding himself with ULTRA liberals, like, oh, I don't know, people who founded the Weather Underground, you know, the very people who bombed the fucking Pentagon! Has he answered those claims, or explained his ties to those people? No, he has not.

Again, President Obama has not only appointed GOPers to his administration but he has sought bipartisanship on legislation when he doesn't need to. His party is a super majority. Why is he still fucking with GOPers if only but to listen to and possibly include their ideas???

Now the reality is, if he determines they are being obstructionists on the issues then it's his responsibility to get things done with or without them. After all, he fucking won...if the American people liked the ideas of the GOPers they would have elected them to office. They didn't.

Like I said, only some airhead who watches Fox and never voted for Obama would believe Obama needs to answer for an association that never existed. And if you think a person has to answer for something people did when he kid and when he had no clue as to who they were or what they were doing..You're beyond helpless.

Repair out national identity.....great. Pander and cry and look fucking WEAK and APOLOGIZE to fucking terrorist nations?! Not what I had in mind when I cast my vote that day. I am tired.....I am sick to death....of the Annoited One's apology tours and America bashing.....every time he goes overseas that is all I hear spout from his mouth......so no, I was happy to hear about repairing a possibly damaged opinion of America in the rest of the world's eyes, but I do NOT agree with him bowing down and kissing Chavez's ass to do it!

If you're going to go by Fox facts....you're beyond helpless.

Outright lie? Serious claim. Care to back it up? Yes, I watch O'Reilly and Beck on a fairly regular basis......point out ONE specific time that either one has outright lied, and I will grant you that. But I bet you money you can't.

If you care to watch all of this...BTW, keep your money. You probably need it more than ol 'Mega.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AC8BBIwrbLU

Dumbfounding arguments? Fair enough. I am entitled to my opinion, as you are to yours. But don't you fucking dare tell me I need to be more informed, my friend........I looked at the two candidates, listened to every debate......thought long and hard about my decision.....the man I voted for is NOT the same guy in the White House today.

You can attack FOX and my opinion all you want, but I will not sit back and let you attack my decision making process. THAT is where YOU lost respect in my eyes.

Sure, dumbfounding arguments...you say Obama needs to answer for his association with the Weather Underground. There is none. Obama was selected to a board about eduction of nearly 50 other people ONE of whom was a member of the Weather Underground 40 years ago. You believe he needs to answer for that???

Stop being "Out-Foxed".

 

[meesterperfect]

You seemed really threatened by fox.
Fox has exposed to many the fucked up values and intentions of many of his appointees.
And using their own words.
Like LLoyd, Sunstien, van jones and obama himself.
You don't like it, so you resort to empty insults.
Personally, I didnt need Beck to show me this stuff, I was on to Obama very early on, even before fox. But I'm glad at least some station is showing who these people are and their intentions instead of sugar coating everything to appease the easily fooled while Obama tries to sneak in all that he can to serve his radical left feelings on how things should be.
He's a one termer, guaranteed.

 

[Galactic]

You don't like it, so you resort to empty insults.

Which is precisely why I stopped responding to him.

 

[Hot Mega]

He's a one termer, guaranteed.

Yep. And you probably was in the same crowd holding out hope for Obama not be sworn in because some Kenyan birth certificate was supposed to magically appear....even though he wasn't born in Kenya.

Which is precisely why I stopped responding to him.

Me thinks you no longer respond because you've been exposed as a fraud in claiming you voted for Obama (not a big deal)....but more over, claiming Obama has changed when in the next breath all but admitting you don't know enough about the issues to even establish a position for yourself.

And again, there's no credible way you voted for Obama and at the same time will claim the absurd Fox talking point that he needs to explain a nonexistent relationship with an organization which went defunct when Obama was less than 10 years old.:rofl::wave2:

Here's the thing....you can't just claim anything behind the anonymity of a keyboard and computer monitor and think people are just going to buy it no matter how absurdly inconsistent.

 

[Galactic]

Yep. And you probably was in the same crowd holding out hope for Obama not be sworn in because some Kenyan birth certificate was supposed to magically appear....even though he wasn't born in Kenya.



Me thinks you no longer respond because you've been exposed as a fraud in claiming you voted for Obama (not a big deal)....but more over, claiming Obama has changed when in the next breath all but admitting you don't know enough about the issues to even establish a position for yourself.

And again, there's no credible way you voted for Obama and at the same time will claim the absurd Fox talking point that he needs to explain a nonexistent relationship with an organization which went defunct when Obama was less than 10 years old.:rofl::wave2:

Here's the thing....you can't just claim anything behind the anonymity of a keyboard and computer monitor and think people are just going to buy it no matter how absurdly inconsistent.

There is just no way for me to accurately describe, nay, no word exists, that would be able to show how wrong you are. The reason I have stopped this "debate" with you is because you are a small, petty, rude, person with incredibly thin arguments that are laden with personal attacks.

But that is exactly what my experience with Kool Aid drinking Leftists has been.....time and again.......

By the way.....how have I been exposed? Serious question, Mr. Investigative Journalist. Where is your proof? Where are the facts? All you have done is spout rude, innaccurate suppositions about me.....if that is your "proof", if that is the Grand Expose.....ah, the irony runs thick and deep my friends.

We are done. As far as I am concerned, we were done several posts ago. But you continue to rant, therefore I thought I would respond directly to you one final time. I maintain, and stand behind, every comment I have made thus far in this thread. Every one of them. You are free to disagree, as is your right.

Where I disagree with you entirely is your treatment of those who dare disagree with you, oh high Exalted Hot Mega.

Good day sir. :hatsoff:

By the way......Henry David Thoreau is really the only one who was able to pull off the "me thinks"......and when he used it, it was all one word. Methinks.

Just......for future reference.

 

[Hot Mega]

There is just no way for me to accurately describe, nay, no word exists, that would be able to show how wrong you are. The reason I have stopped this "debate" with you is because you are a small, petty, rude, person with incredibly thin arguments that are laden with personal attacks.

But that is exactly what my experience with Kool Aid drinking Leftists has been.....time and again.......

By the way.....how have I been exposed? Serious question, Mr. Investigative Journalist. Where is your proof? Where are the facts? All you have done is spout rude, innaccurate suppositions about me.....if that is your "proof", if that is the Grand Expose.....ah, the irony runs thick and deep my friends.

We are done. As far as I am concerned, we were done several posts ago. But you continue to rant, therefore I thought I would respond directly to you one final time. I maintain, and stand behind, every comment I have made thus far in this thread. Every one of them. You are free to disagree, as is your right.

Where I disagree with you entirely is your treatment of those who dare disagree with you, oh high Exalted Hot Mega.

Good day sir. :hatsoff:

By the way......Henry David Thoreau is really the only one who was able to pull off the "me thinks"......and when he used it, it was all one word. Methinks.

Just......for future reference.

Me thinks :dunno:

Well, I've attacked your credibility based on your words...sorry.

Now is there a remote prospect that you voted for Obama without knowing or understanding any of the views he espoused over his entire multi-year campaign? It's possible as I'm sure there are people like that...again where you lose credibility is when you spout off talking points against Obama right out of the baseless Fox news/Hannity/Beck play book. Most people familiar in the least would find such a claim wholly ridiculous. Or, what the hell did you think you were voting for???

I do apologize if I come of a little inconsiderate of your feelings in demonstrating my contention with your assertions....I tend to do that when people try and insult my intelligence.

As far as your reference. I appreciate the help but you're assuming I was attempting to quote the word "methinks" instead of simply saying "me thinks". Think about that one for a second.:hatsoff:

By the way, what position have I state here that I believe which calls me out as a "leftist"?? This ought to be good....

 

[meesterperfect]

I think shakespeare and said it too.
bugs bunny said it once or twice also.