roronoa3000
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Re: White males....would you marry and/or have children with a woman who was not whit
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Looks like I got it right.
How far back does that go?Yeah Jennifer Connelly is actually only a quarter Irish. Her face looks pretty damn Irish though. She doesn't really have a dark skin tone though. Her mother was Russian Jewish and polish. Her dad is Irish and Norwegian according to wikipedia.
I have pure Irish people in my family and a lot of them are dark with black or dark brown hair.
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Why is it that some people, in particular Americans, are so hung up on finding their roots?
The Irish make millions out of it selling little pieces of turf and cans of Irish air though so they won't complain![]()
I'm not patronising, I just don't get why it is such a big deal. I've met people telling me they are 1/16 Irish. That means they are 15/16 something else. Frankly nobody in Europe cares. After all, I doubt there are any pure Irish people in Ireland or in any other country in Europe.
My city, for example, has been in Austrian, German, Dutch, Belgian, French, Russian, independent, Prussian, Bavarian and Hungarian and that all int he last 200 years. So it's nonsense to claim heritage in Europe. Just like I've met people telling me they are Wendisch because their great-great-great-grandfather came from Bautzen. It means they have a great-great-great-grandfather who has lived in that city but doesn't say anything about their heritage. Like people telling me their name is Kennedy and thus proving to me they're Irish. It means that somewhere along the line there was a man in their family called Kennedy. Our own last name has changed at least 29 times in the last 200 years as with each new invasion so that would mean our heritage has changed 29 times?
It's okay with me if you want to find your own heritage and be proud of it but how come there are so many people claiming they are 67/128 Irish but they fail to notice the other 61 parts are something else. Their forefathers being from Ireland doesn't always mean they were Irish for example.
:1orglaughExactly!!
I'm 1...something Hungarian myself (great grandma was so that makes me a pinch but who knows what nationality she was cut with generations ago) I've been there know the language but the fact is about as useful as a gallon of ketchup on a porter house steak.
My dad was Hungarian but we came from Koloszvar so might have some Roma or Romanian blood as well. I know for sure that we have some hunnic blood as all children are born with the Mongol Spot common in East Asians and central Asians.
Doesn't pay me any bills though.
My mum's family have been from the same village as far back as the 13th century but in those 8 centuries they have married with quite a lot of people of course and the village has switched hands at least 800 times as well so you can't put any national identity either. Americans are of American heritage whether they like it or not and I think they should be proud of that rather than looking into the past.
How far back does that go?
It's funny how some people claim to be Irish but nobody mentions that the Bush family are Germans, Lindsay Lohan is Irish, the Olsen twins are Swedish, etc.
Not a day passes in Ireland without being confronted by foreigners who are looking for their Irish roots even though they sport last names like Smith or Woczniak.
It seems they are looking for their Irish roots not for their Dutch, Italian or Greek roots as much. For example, our family has many Jews in it in Hungary and Germany but we are not looking for our German roots. It's very, very, very clear where we come from but nodoby cares.
Why is it that some people, in particular Americans, are so hung up on finding their roots?
The Irish make millions out of it selling little pieces of turf and cans of Irish air though so they won't complain![]()
Tell me about it...talk about a Rubik's cube...my great grandmother was originally from Szekely Land (disputed area in Transylvania of Hungarians surrounded by Romanians...well, I guess Transylvania is disputed itself) who married my Austro-Hungarian great granddad who had a son that managed to marry my English Grandma....so at that point..what the hell difference does it make in terms of fractions?
I'm not patronising, I just don't get why it is such a big deal. I've met people telling me they are 1/16 Irish. That means they are 15/16 something else. Frankly nobody in Europe cares. After all, I doubt there are any pure Irish people in Ireland or in any other country in Europe.
My city, for example, has been in Austrian, German, Dutch, Belgian, French, Russian, independent, Prussian, Bavarian and Hungarian and that all int he last 200 years. So it's nonsense to claim heritage in Europe. Just like I've met people telling me they are Wendisch because their great-great-great-grandfather came from Bautzen. It means they have a great-great-great-grandfather who has lived in that city but doesn't say anything about their heritage. Like people telling me their name is Kennedy and thus proving to me they're Irish. It means that somewhere along the line there was a man in their family called Kennedy. Our own last name has changed at least 29 times in the last 200 years as with each new invasion so that would mean our heritage has changed 29 times?
It's okay with me if you want to find your own heritage and be proud of it but how come there are so many people claiming they are 67/128 Irish but they fail to notice the other 61 parts are something else. Their forefathers being from Ireland doesn't always mean they were Irish for example.
Why are you patronizing them? If anything that should make you feel higher up (and I can see you already do, but in a condescending manner). That's what I don't get about Europeans - it's that you guys think you have some idea about us and why we do shit like that. For fuck's sake, it's probably for the same reason that Africans, Asians, and Latinos in America have a great interest in returning to land their ancestors are indigenous to, even though they are, like almost all whites, generations famliy deep in the American culture.
This melting pot shit really is overrated, if you ask me. Everyone talks all this liberal shit in America about how it's so cool how we're all so mixed up. It's not cool. What's really tragic, I think, is when I meet American girls (and guys) that have no idea about their ethnic background, and, more so, they don't even care. That's some uninterested, obtuse, mindless drone type shit right there. We've been turned into an unidentifiable, senseless bunch of stiffs watching MTV all day. :2 cents:
I'm not patronising, I just don't get why it is such a big deal. I've met people telling me they are 1/16 Irish. That means they are 15/16 something else. Frankly nobody in Europe cares. After all, I doubt there are any pure Irish people in Ireland or in any other country in Europe.
My city, for example, has been in Austrian, German, Dutch, Belgian, French, Russian, independent, Prussian, Bavarian and Hungarian and that all int he last 200 years. So it's nonsense to claim heritage in Europe. Just like I've met people telling me they are Wendisch because their great-great-great-grandfather came from Bautzen. It means they have a great-great-great-grandfather who has lived in that city but doesn't say anything about their heritage. Like people telling me their name is Kennedy and thus proving to me they're Irish. It means that somewhere along the line there was a man in their family called Kennedy. Our own last name has changed at least 29 times in the last 200 years as with each new invasion so that would mean our heritage has changed 29 times?
It's okay with me if you want to find your own heritage and be proud of it but how come there are so many people claiming they are 67/128 Irish but they fail to notice the other 61 parts are something else. Their forefathers being from Ireland doesn't always mean they were Irish for example.
I'd venture to say there are WAY more Irish (full blooded, indeed) in America than there are in Ireland, by a long shot. In the Midwest alone, there are probably more Irish than the entire country of Ireland. How full blooded they are is up for speculation, but there are pleanty left I am sure. 2000 Cencus says they are scattered all over http://www.valpo.edu/geomet/pics/geo200/pct_irish.pdf
I grew up with several kids that are full blooded Irish[-American].
Would anyone be terribly upset if I ran the OP over with a bulldozer? Didn't think so...
Why are you patronizing them? If anything that should make you feel higher up (and I can see you already do, but in a condescending manner). That's what I don't get about Europeans - it's that you guys think you have some idea about us and why we do shit like that. For fuck's sake, it's probably for the same reason that Africans, Asians, and Latinos in America have a great interest in returning to land their ancestors are indigenous to, even though they are, like almost all whites, generations famliy deep in the American culture.
This melting pot shit really is overrated, if you ask me. Everyone talks all this liberal shit in America about how it's so cool how we're all so mixed up. It's not cool. What's really tragic, I think, is when I meet American girls (and guys) that have no idea about their ethnic background, and, more so, they don't even care. That's some uninterested, obtuse, mindless drone type shit right there. We've been turned into an unidentifiable, senseless bunch of stiffs watching MTV all day. :2 cents:
I'd venture to say there are WAY more Irish (full blooded, indeed) in America than there are in Ireland, by a long shot. In the Midwest alone, there are probably more Irish than the entire country of Ireland. How full blooded they are is up for speculation, but there are pleanty left I am sure. 2000 Cencus says they are scattered all over http://www.valpo.edu/geomet/pics/geo200/pct_irish.pdf
I grew up with several kids that are full blooded Irish[-American].
I suppose those senseless bunch of stiffs could be surfing porn sites on library computers all day as an alternative.:dunno:
Hard earned tuition money at work there.:clap: (It is your moola paying for this right or are you taking advantage of the 'welfare system' to surf porn too?With a pile of books, some snacks and water, and 20 pages of original research in front of me.![]()
BTW, I was alluding to the increasingly ignorant (generation 'X'?) crowd, not those just above them, per se.
Hard earned tuition money at work there.:clap: (It is your moola paying for this right or are you taking advantage of the 'welfare system' to surf porn too?)