When Political Correctness gets stupid
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Mr. Daystar
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Fuck you mean, "WHEN" it gets stupid?!?!
Will E Worm
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Facebook is hypocritical, they need to stand for free speech, or get off the net.
Supafly
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Well I think that some PC decisions make sense. Like banning the "N-Word", and other curse words that go overboard.
Freedom of speech is not about being allowed to babble away in stupid words. If you feel like talking freely about somebody or something, you do it in words that make sense.
Aight?
Ace Boobtoucher
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No, supa. When people start delineating what parts of speech are acceptable or legal you start down the road to fascism. If someone says or writes something you disagree with or find offensive you either call them out for their behavior or ignore them. It's really that simple. Getting the authorities involved in speech is a slippery slope. If their behavior is designed to spark ******** or panic like yelling "fire" in a crowded theater or inciting a riot. Those are not protected speech.
We had two police officers at Our Lady of Las Vegas during midnight mass this year and it made me uncomfortable. Not because of their presence but because they felt the need to have a police presence there to protect them from disruptive people. There's been a rash of a̶s̶s̶h̶a̶t̶s̶ self described Premium Link Upgrade Now, had I been present during any of their shenanigans they wouldn't have needed authorities there to keep them in check, even though there is a law in Nevada making it ******* to disrupt religious services.
Some things can be handled by an individual rather than legislating morality.
We had two police officers at Our Lady of Las Vegas during midnight mass this year and it made me uncomfortable. Not because of their presence but because they felt the need to have a police presence there to protect them from disruptive people. There's been a rash of a̶s̶s̶h̶a̶t̶s̶ self described Premium Link Upgrade Now, had I been present during any of their shenanigans they wouldn't have needed authorities there to keep them in check, even though there is a law in Nevada making it ******* to disrupt religious services.
Some things can be handled by an individual rather than legislating morality.
Good post :clap::thumbsup:
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Is that sarcasm? Or are you serious? Freedom of speech is absolutely about being "allowed" to babble away in stupid words. When you get to determine what speech is free and what speech isn't, none of it's free.
Anyway, this has nothing to do with free speech. Facebook is a corporation. Their decision was dumb and they look like fools and political correctness looks silly. But it's their site, their rules.
Supafly
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The wording was not exact enough for you, it seems. But yes:
Freedom of speech is not freedom to just insult for the sake of insulting. Make sense or STFU.
Exactly. Political correctness has always been retarded.
Political correctness doesn't mean that you stop saying dumb, cruel things that offend people, it means that you ****** language in order to prevent people to pretend to be offensive.
Not calling Jews "Kykes" isn't being PC. It's being a decent person. Being decent and being PC have been intentionally conflated by some.
Supafly
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Wrong.
You are absolutely free to speak your mind. But if you go wild and call people ni55ers, coons, sluts, retards, and so on, you do not exersize your freedom of speech, you are doing it to just insult, because you prove right there:
You can't make your point by saying anything that maes sense.
Freedom gets defined by its limits. Yes, for people who are new to this, you are having trouble understanding this. Ask your old philosophy professor.
Yes it fucking is. Who made you the arbiter of acceptable speech? What a dumb, dangerous and scary thing to say.
Free speech means that you have the freedom to insult whoever the fuck you want. And, in return, people have the right to call you out on it, avoid you, attempt to educate you and/or criticize you. Once any facet of speech becomes forbidden, then all facets of speech are subject to restriction.
Why is OK for you to type "coons, sluts, retards" but not "******"? That's odd.
I think that we probably agree that people who resort to that kind of language have no ability to articulate a valid point and should probably be immediately dismissed, but freedom of speech means that they are free to resort to that if that's what they choose. Freedom is absolutely not defined by it's limits. In fact, that's an oxymoron. True freedom is the elimination of mandated limits. True freedom means the right to thrive or failed based on your own choices, so long as they don't restrict the freedom of others.
But whatever. You seem to have an authoritarian streak in ya, so I'll let you have the last word.
Ace Boobtoucher
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What the hell is a ni55er?
Supafly
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You just learned that there are word filters in here. And that is one of them. So if you want to have others know which curse word you are referring to, you do like I do.
You see, you can use them in a conversation to make a statement, just not to cuss someone out.
I get it that US citizens are very fond of being allowed to insult and trash everyone, it's a nice compensation for not really having a democracy. So keep on dreaming of your freedom, you have very little, at least nothing that really counts. And not surprisingly, the ones being the most stern about being free in that regard are hot for keeping the same parties in power that fuck you over and over.
There's a soccer team called sCUNThorpe
Along the theme of sCUNThorpe there is also a football (soccer) team known as Liverpool. They are a bunch of CUNTS.
Under zero circumstance is PC not stupid.
The crutch of the ignorant MF.
The crutch of the ignorant MF.
Supafly
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I think that this discussion has an issue with the phrasing of the terms we have different opinions about.
To clar this up:
Would you say that a society should allow literally everything everywhere to be allowed to be said, may it be to individuals, groups or to the public in general, as on TV, as an example?
Or, do you see certain situations or certain groups or whatever limitations to what you can say?
To clar this up:
Would you say that a society should allow literally everything everywhere to be allowed to be said, may it be to individuals, groups or to the public in general, as on TV, as an example?
Or, do you see certain situations or certain groups or whatever limitations to what you can say?
Testing.....
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