When it comes to cam shows, do you think price reflects quality?

[JaanaRuutu]

I have a real problem with cam girls who charge $1 per minute for masturbation shows - not for their members or for long-time customers, but for..anyone. I think it suggests that the product she's putting forward isn't WORTH more than that and it shows she doesn't put much time or effort into her work, because if she did, she'd wanna be compensated for all of that time.

As customers, where do you all stand? When you see a girl who wants $10 for 10 minutes of masturbation and anal on cam, do you go in with low expectations than you would with a girl charging $3-$5?

I feel like there are girls who charge so little think they're going to "under-cut the competition", without realizing that all they're really doing is attracting guys who don't care about becoming a fan. Guys who just want a quick orgasm and then they'll be off, never to talk to you again, and not guys who are looking for a regular, enjoyable, professional cam show. I don't want guys to book shows with me because I'm "cheap", I want them to book with me because they enjoy me. i don't want to be known and liked for my price, I just think that's silly.

 

[DOA82]

Gullibility finally has a price tag.

I've never paid for a cam show, it's not my thing and I don't find it enjoyable because its even more of a theatrical performance than porn itself.

Ive seen a few cam sites with target based tipping and I'm always fascinated by people paying money for a glimpse at a 640 x 480 grainy image of some boobs. If they are really lucky the girl performing will masturbate and "cum at goal", then whey they finally deliver the goods its as performed and over acted as the most vocally annoying porn star. Knowing that in 10 more minutes someone else will have hit the target and out comes that favourite glass dildo to perform again.

Over and under charging set interesting precedents, the girl that charges to low is counting on the bargain hunting dregs but the girl that charges more is arrogant and usually not worth the tag she sets. End of the day the guy whose paying is in it for no more than a quick tug of war with himself so what difference does it to pay more for the same result. I always find it disgusting how the girls performing have wish lists and walls of fame for their biggest tippers when its a means of getting free stuff from people who think they are buying their way into the girls good graces.

The cam girl market is as diluted as the modelling world because anyone with a web cam and an ISP can do it, in fact I found a clip online of a girl reacting to being recognised by an old school friend who then threatened to black mail her with it, hilarious stuff.

 

[Petra]

DOA has a good point about the cam girl market being diluted. I think the price a girl can demand depends completely on the traffic the site is generating. If the site attracts the "free" market, I don't think she'll have much success at charging $20 for a 5 minute show. However, if the site is successful at attracting girls that are good AND paying traffic, then I'm sure that the girl can probably demand more for a performance.

In the end it's a numbers game. Does she sit around and wait for that $20 private or does she do 2 ten dollar, 10 minute private shows to get the same amount?

 

[twat36975248664224]

I personally don't know if most guys would even care with the free amount of porn on the internet?

 

[Wendy Summers]

That's ultimately the mental math... I fluctuate my rates based on what my traffic is like. Ideally for every hour I'm on, I want to be working between 30-40 minutes. Other performers go with a cheap per minute so they have non-stop traffic... I think it all depends how patient you are and how easily you get bored.

 

[PlumpRump]

When I have paid for cam shows in the past I have usually used Streamate (am I allowed to say that on here?), and my personal preference is a mixture of affordability and quality, although affordability often trumps quality for me. I can't justify paying more than $2.99/min. and I flat out refuse to do it. There are very good quality shows in the $1.99-$2.99/min range and I get exactly what I'm looking for at that price. And I'm not really looking to become a "fan" of a cam personality, per se. There have been a few performers that I have seen multiple times over the years, but I really only pay for cam shows once every 4-5 weeks, so I prefer to spread my money around and get an idea of what a particular site has to offer. Some sites have, literally, thousands of performers and I feel that my money is better spent not having one particular favorite, and I can satisfy whatever my taste may be on a given day by being less discriminatory and exploring the sites performers.

There are some performers that I would love to see a cam show with, but if they are charging $3.00/min or up, I will never see them because I feel there are several great alternatives available at a significantly lower cost. I find, on sites like Streamate especially, that for the most part 75% of the shows are acceptable to me, and it seems that the rate of any given performer is directly correlated to their country of origin (USA and Western European performers usually cost more), their cam quality, and their control of the English language (Performers who speak better English are usually more expensive).

To answer your question more directly, I don't think $1/min is too low, however for my money, personally, anything over $3/min is too high.

 

[brodkill]

not a fucking chance

ive seen some shiity cam girls who charge an arm and a leg and ive seen some pretty darn good cam girls that charge next to nothing

ive also seen crappy cam girls that charge next to nothing and really good ones that make you take a loan out on your hose just to cam with them

 

[Briana Lee]

When I have paid for cam shows in the past I have usually used Streamate (am I allowed to say that on here?), and my personal preference is a mixture of affordability and quality, although affordability often trumps quality for me. I can't justify paying more than $2.99/min. and I flat out refuse to do it. There are very good quality shows in the $1.99-$2.99/min range and I get exactly what I'm looking for at that price. And I'm not really looking to become a "fan" of a cam personality, per se. There have been a few performers that I have seen multiple times over the years, but I really only pay for cam shows once every 4-5 weeks, so I prefer to spread my money around and get an idea of what a particular site has to offer. Some sites have, literally, thousands of performers and I feel that my money is better spent not having one particular favorite, and I can satisfy whatever my taste may be on a given day by being less discriminatory and exploring the sites performers.

There are some performers that I would love to see a cam show with, but if they are charging $3.00/min or up, I will never see them because I feel there are several great alternatives available at a significantly lower cost. I find, on sites like Streamate especially, that for the most part 75% of the shows are acceptable to me, and it seems that the rate of any given performer is directly correlated to their country of origin (USA and Western European performers usually cost more), their cam quality, and their control of the English language (Performers who speak better English are usually more expensive).

To answer your question more directly, I don't think $1/min is too low, however for my money, personally, anything over $3/min is too high.

What most guys forget is the fact that the model doesn't keep anything like what she's charging. On some sites if a girl is charging $3 a minute then all she is getting from that is $0.60 a minute!! I'm gonna be honest and say that when I cam on Streamate I charge $9.99 a minute for private shows and out of that I keep $2.00. Most guys only stay on for 2-3 minutes so I earn $6.00 for a show. Not great is it. That's why I do mainly Gold/Group shows where you pay a set amount for a set amount of time and everyone can join in. So say $4 for a 6 minute show. Again I'm only earning $0.80 per person but sometimes I can have 60-80 people in one show so it makes a difference. It's cheaper for you and better for me.

 

[SpexyAshleigh]

My rates are basically set by the site owner. All models on MFC have to charge $6 a minute for private, or $1 a minute for group. I believe to "spy" on a private show its $2 a minute. However, if a guy wants my skype address and wants me to do a show off skype, it works out to $9 a minute if he's paying with MFC tokens (because of the lost "voyeur" income). If someone wishes to pay me directly and not through MFC, I discount heavily because the site owner isn't getting his cut....and I also cam on Mygirlfund for max $5 a minute. So everyone has options. But since my private shows are very rare (ie. I don't do them often, because I prefer not to abuse my pussy by doing show after show. I also hate faking shows, which if I did 14 a day, I'd have to fake so...yeah. I usually do 1-5 privates a MONTH) I feel my prices are justified. And people are happy paying for them. I know I put on a hot fucking show, and since its not something everyone has the chance to partake in because they're so few and far between, they're getting special time with me and an authentic orgasm. Not your $1 a minute, conveyor-belt style shows where you're number 9 of 12 shows a model is doing in a workday.

 

[tedie]

As for me I think that the price should match the quality. Paying a little money is foolishly to expect to get a good result. I noticed that the girls working for little money does not aim to attract the customer, they are focused more on the use of air time and not on the positive emotions of the client. It is a losing option! I would like to see not just a girl who is "at work", want to watch a girl who is interested to please and to make a good opinion on me. I havebeen using http://GrlCam.com and http://chaturbate.com/affiliates/in/ZmU7/OnPwt/?track=default
for many years. What can I say - the expectation is fully consistent results. Nice to feel that they are interested in you and really want to comunicate. Appreciate quality!this is important if you do not want to waste your money in vain !:2 cents:

 

[eponymous]

What most guys forget is the fact that the model doesn't keep anything like what she's charging. On some sites if a girl is charging $3 a minute then all she is getting from that is $0.60 a minute!! I'm gonna be honest and say that when I cam on Streamate I charge $9.99 a minute for private shows and out of that I keep $2.00. Most guys only stay on for 2-3 minutes so I earn $6.00 for a show. Not great is it. That's why I do mainly Gold/Group shows where you pay a set amount for a set amount of time and everyone can join in. So say $4 for a 6 minute show. Again I'm only earning $0.80 per person but sometimes I can have 60-80 people in one show so it makes a difference. It's cheaper for you and better for me.

I had no idea it was that bad! I thought cam girls were pulling in 50% of the per minute rate most of the time. That's what I've heard from girls in the past.

Holy shit.

 

[mrdeiz]

well i do agree on the quality part but it greatly depends on the personality of each girl.

As for me I think that the price should match the quality. Paying a little money is foolishly to expect to get a good result. I noticed that the girls working for little money does not aim to attract the customer, they are focused more on the use of air time and not on the positive emotions of the client. It is a losing option! I would like to see not just a girl who is "at work", want to watch a girl who is interested to please and to make a good opinion on me. I havebeen using http://GrlCam.com and http://chaturbate.com/affiliates/in/ZmU7/OnPwt/?track=default
for many years. What can I say - the expectation is fully consistent results. Nice to feel that they are interested in you and really want to comunicate. Appreciate quality!this is important if you do not want to waste your money in vain !:2 cents:

 

[Wendy Summers]

Nope - the Industry standard is around 35%,but by the time you factor in that models take the hit for bad credit cards the effective share rates will be less than that.

There are ways to increase your share, but to get them you need to be someone who drives new traffic to a website, which isn't something most models can do.

 

[JaanaRuutu]

MFC takes 50% and you can't adjust your private rate, so you're always making $3/min, which is awesome, but so many girls do public penetration for literally pennies that it's hard to get a private there unless you really hustle. Streamate takes 65%, even less if you're with a studio. Some girls say studios help with their traffic but I've never needed one. I charge $5/min on Streamate for a pivate and $6.50/min for exclusive, but you have to remember I'm only keeping $1.75/$2.20.

My OP was more about Independent shows, where the models have ads listed somewhere of they find the guys on their main cam sites. Skype shows are great because depending on how the guy pays, you can keep 100%..but I still think $10 for 10 minutes for ANAL is fucking ridiculous. It's especially ridiculous when i see Streamate girls who charge 2.99/min, because if they're not with a studio, they're only making $1..and if they are with a studio, it's even less. I used to charge $3.99 on SM, but I raised my rate and noticed the quality of my shows improved. Longer privates and nicer customers, by far.

Which is what lead me to wonder if the prices for cam girls were psychological for some guys. I fel 'm worth every penny, most people agree.

 

[mrdeiz]

I had no idea it was that bad! I thought cam girls were pulling in 50% of the per minute rate most of the time. That's what I've heard from girls in the past.

Holy shit.

actually that's pretty hard thing to work with
those are some extended details on that from experienced model http://joboncam.com/how-much-money-can-i-earn/

 

[Roald]

Nope - the Industry standard is around 35%,but by the time you factor in that models take the hit for bad credit cards the effective share rates will be less than that.

There are ways to increase your share, but to get them you need to be someone who drives new traffic to a website, which isn't something most models can do.

Its actually kind of a fair split imo. 35% model, 35% program, 30% affiliate (FreeOnes for example).

 

[SabrinaDeep]

I don't mind girls doing cheap shows. Think it like this: if all the girls were charging high rates, the competition would be even more fierce.

Webcam is no different from any other product: there are offers for every pocket. I don't think Armani feels like being undercut by cheap clothing companies; actually Armani wouldn't probably exist without those cheap clothing companies.

If you think that a girl who's doing a show for less is undercutting you, it probably means that you are overpricing yourself.

 

[JaanaRuutu]

I don't mind girls doing cheap shows. Think it like this: if all the girls were charging high rates, the competition would be even more fierce.

Webcam is no different from any other product: there are offers for every pocket. I don't think Armani feels like being undercut by cheap clothing companies; actually Armani wouldn't probably exist without those cheap clothing companies.

If you think that a girl who's doing a show for less is undercutting you, it probably means that you are overpricing yourself.

I don't think it's undercutting me. I'm quite confident with MY prices and I don't think the kind of guy that would buy a show from a girl like that would be my customer anyway. i just think it's a bad business plan.

 

[Roald]

I don't think it's undercutting me. I'm quite confident with MY prices and I don't think the kind of guy that would buy a show from a girl like that would be my customer anyway. i just think it's a bad business plan.

meh, it just depends on what you choose to be your business plan

 

[SabrinaDeep]

Oh i was talking in general, not referring to you particularly.

It's necessity sometimes, Jaana. Some ppl know what they can offer, which is less than what others can offer, and therefore if they raise their rates they won't sell.
Working at McDonald at 5$ an hour sounds like a bad business plan too, but for some people is the only chance.
I don't know if you have ever watched some cheap shows: sometimes the girl never smiles, she is rude, she won't even show her face, she just wastes client's time improvising a very long and ridiculous strip-tease, she spams both audio and video chat with just "put money in" kind of msgs, she never reads chat so she never has a dialogue with clients, her toys are suppositories, she starts orgasming even before she touches herself...shall i continue? lol