what if we could cloned jesus christ?

It would just be a repeat ...

It would just be a repeat as before. He would be scolded for "hanging around the wrong people" and "going against the established word." The majority of people would not believe him, and most would think the cloning was imperfect and incomplete.

As I regularly warn people who blame those of Jewish faith for the death of Jesus, the same thing would happen to Jesus at the hands of Chrisitians today! So many people miss the point of his teachings, let alone the way he treated and helped people throughout his life.
 

youwanttoshagme

Closed Account
Ok. DNA needs to be taken from the source, which have to proven to be Jesus. Proving it's human isn't hard, but actually Jesus would be subjective. In respect to the Turin shroud, it is a fake. Produced in the middle ages, so isn't a source for DNA except for the forgers and whoever may have come in contact with it ever since, so ignore that route.

On obtaining Jesus' DNA from a confirmed source, the DNA stability and purity would have to be determined, and the DNA completeness. For the cloning to work, a small pure intact sample would be required (not just a SNP that they use in genetic fingure printing, but the whole genome). Once isolated it can easily be amplified in short fragment sections with standard lab procedures.

Once amplified, the DNA would have to be placed into a host cell, usually a oocyte from an embryo. Human would be preferred, but calf embryo would be suitable.

To this point, all the SOPs are legal, however after 14 days, the cell would have to be destroyed according to current laws. Assuming that you were allowed, the embryos would be cultured and subcultured to ensure greater viability prior to differentiation. Those that are viable would be placed into suitable surrogates (anyone willing to be a surrogate to Christ? Being called Mary not essential) and carried to full term, and born in the usual ways.

Your new Jesus may have a few problems. The chromosome lengths are controlled by telemeres. Unfortunately, the art of extending telemeres isn't exact (hence Dolly dying of old age at a young age). The "new" Jesus would effectively be the same age as the original Jesus (middle age ish) so expect later onset disorders effecting the new Jesus at a younger age.

The chances of a successful clone are less than 1%, and survival to birth would be even less than that. In all likelihood, never going to happen.

The Jesus created would have similar genome to the original, bar point mutations, incorrect transcriptions in DNA amplifications and error due to DNA degradation. However, the phontype, what they are actually like, will be a mix of the environmental and genetic factors. Jesus was more than likely to have spoken Arabic, however, if cloned in a lab in the US, he'll speak English.

His external appearance maybe of Christ, but in terms of IQ, beliefs, ideologies and convictions, that'll be molded by the environment that he is brought up in.

At the moment, post 14 days is all illegal, unethical and (for humans) science fiction, especially from deceased DNA sources.

The conflicts with middle east ideologies etc is all circumspect, especially as getting confirmed DNA is so wild, that you could end up cloning the leper who Christ blessed rather than the man himself. The person produced would be a false idol to so many religious groups, that the person would eclipse all celebs, but won't have any of the abilities that a person in his position should have. The pressure on this person would make Brittney Spears' breakdown look trivial.

Imagine if this was the other way round and the Muslims created a clone of their Allah or high spiritual leaders? They would see this as the fabled second coming and see the word of the clone as the holy dialect, and follow anything they say. The Muslims would feel empowered and more than likely start a Holy War rather than see it as an opportunity for peace and unity. The only religion that has seen this rebirth of their spiritual leader, and seen stability, is the reincarnation of the Dali Lama in Buddhism, and this is only achieved through a continual succession rather than two millennium of absents.

I certainly don't think this is a route to take.
 

lechepicha

Prince of the Rotten Milk
actually, there was a rumor about this:

Claim: A group known as 'The Second Coming Project' is seeking to clone Jesus from the DNA of holy relics.
Status: False


http://www.snopes.com/religion/clone.asp

:( too bad
i think it would be great for us all porn-seekers sinners
 
see, I think we should clone Jesus, then drop him into a cage match with Chuck Norris.

Seriously, how freaking sick would that be? And imagine the ratings!
 

jasonk282

Banned
I think he would be pissed at what Christians actually do with his religion and name. Would be funny as hell to see some of the Evangelical's faces when he goes to their houses, knocks on the door and when they open it he says "I'm back bitches". Bet they all passout or shit their pants.
 
Have you ever readThe Boys from Brazil by Ira Levin? Where the delightful war criminal and mad scientist Joseph Mengele successfully cloned Hitler while in hiding in South America. It's a terrific book and was made into a movie with Gregory Peck playing Mengele which is also very good. :thumbsup:
 
Wasn't it proven that the shroud is actually dated like 14th century or something?

Anyway, Jesus would come back, say he is the son of god, all Christians say this guy is a nuts and tell all their followers to ignore this man. They would ask him to perform a miracle for proof of this even though thou shall not test the Lord. They all just ignore him and Jesus becomes addicted to buying faberge eggs and lives out his days in a mental hospital.
 
We could clone an entire army of Jesus Christs, and it would be totally badass, because we'd have an elite fighting force capable of miracles, walking on water, creating food, and after they whip your ass, they'll make you feel all good inside with some gospel about being good to your fellow men.

To make them over-the-top wicked awesome, we'll clad them all in form-fitting black leather, and train them in kung fu.

I'm going to go write a screenplay.
 

lechepicha

Prince of the Rotten Milk
We could clone an entire army of Jesus Christs, and it would be totally badass, because we'd have an elite fighting force capable of miracles, walking on water, creating food, and after they whip your ass, they'll make you feel all good inside with some gospel about being good to your fellow men.

To make them over-the-top wicked awesome, we'll clad them all in form-fitting black leather, and train them in kung fu.

I'm going to go write a screenplay.

:rofl:

Post of the Week, man!!! :thefinger

rep to you, of course.

and we're gonna wait for that screenplay... honestly, it would be an awesome movie. You can do it, hedonis!! :wave:
 
wee the shroud was dated around the middle ages, so if you can find surviving dna on a sheet that was made 1000 years after jesus died good luck

plus clones don't develop exactly the same, he wouldn't have the same thoughts unless he was raised exactly the same way, clones have different personalities
 
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