What don't you like about women in the "real world"?

[Member2019]

Women (and men), although self-image is different ...

None of the above just the fact generally that you never really know when there going to screw you over. The fact it's so hard to find a simple straightforward girl out there.

This I actually agree with, there are a lot of selfish women out there.
But are men any different as well?
I think it's just people at times, not realizing what is really involved with loving someone else.

In my experience, the ones who repeatedly talk about how fat and/or ugly they are, don't really believe it and are just fishing for ego boosters.

This is not true at all for women.
Women are constantly bombarded with media as well as attitudes from men.
It's in the media especially, and I'd like to see men handle the same media if we were bombarded with stud male images and a darth of any size in men on the TV.

Furthermore, I dated a gymnist in college and she was regularly told she wasn't "fit" by other men when she was in a dress.
In most cases, the only way they'd see otherwise if she literally flexed her muscles to show that she was slender and wide, not fat.
A lot of men, and even some women, are really "narrow-minded," don't realize that width and size is not representative if someone is fat.

Width is often mistaken as fat by too many people.
No virtually never see a woman with size and width on TV, unlike men, even ones that aren't fat at all.

I completely disagree, I think women perpetuate these stereotypes themselves.

Again, what if TV was largely devoid of anything but fit, athletic men?
Do you think we'd have the same attitudes that we do? Seriously.

I do agree that women sometimes do it to other men, and are more cruel than men in many cases.
But women do not get to experience the normality in media and society that men do in comparison.

How many guys have said here they prefer women without make-up? How many guys do you know who actually like that skinny, heroin addict supermodel look? The majority of men want women with curves, I'm sure if we took a poll on body types a curvy voluptuous figure would win.

But that's not reflected in the US media at all.
The only time you see such is in reality shows, and even then, they're called "fat."

You just have to look at porn stars, whose target market is men, versus skinny supermodels, whose target market is women. Women do it to themselves because of their own psychological deficiencies, or more often, simply by competitive nature, wanting to be the skinniest girl in the room. I don't think men are to blame for that at all Fox, and I think you showed your ovaries with that statement.

Pornography is hardly mainstream US media, as much as you or I would want it.
In fact, many in the mainstream media have a problem with curves in general, and the FCC has limitations on the amount of cleavage that can be shown during the day, sometimes even during primetime.
And that's before we look at fuller figured women in general.

 

[Member2019]

I did NOT start this thread to judge people ...

I agree with what Prof V just said. I was going to have a very stern response to Mongo's post,

Why? Why is such an attitude warranted?
Why not just disagree, and talk about why you disagree, instead of feeling the need to rebuke someone?
You say you want to lead people into a better government and see everyone represented.

Kinda hard to do if you dismiss anyone from participating.

The only time you see me rebuke anyone is when they don't have the technical background on something, and their answers are completely wrong, technically.
And I only do this in a field of expertise of mine (with many years), where they forced the issue and judgement first, or responded to any technical information I provided.
And even then I've typically started to leave it as "1 post and 1 follow-up" and that's that on technical threads.

On social issues, I've really kept myself in check on that, because it's not technical, and opinions are going to vary in general.
This is not merely just a social issue, it's a personal preference issue.
So personal preferences are ... tada ... something where you state how you feel about yourself only.

Heck, I feel like starting a "personal preference" thread on inter-racial, with answers like "white, would not sleep with black" and so forth.
I know you'd bust in and start labeling people has making "racist like statements" (and re-clarifying you're not calling them a racist).
Com'mon, just let people be, and if you disagree with their social assessment, try to

which is completely off-base if you ask me, but I decided not to since this is his thread and I mistakenly brought those ideas into a thread where they weren't relavant.

I did not start this thread to "show judgement" or "I'm better."
If I liked women completely shaved, with make-up on, etc... I don't think it's wrong for me to state such, or at least anonymous vote that way.
I honestly like full, natural bush and make-up free women, but that's just me.

I honestly started this thread to gather statistics on who felt like myself, and who did not.

I'm also a guy that doesn't apologize for lusting after women, as long as the woman provides consent.
People have judged me on that in the past, especially judging me on things I didn't say and attitudes I didn't have.
We already have too much judgement around here on personal preferences, which are far different than technical realities.

So it's good to engage in what someone meant, and try to see if they agree from a different angle.
That's what I tried to do, instead of trying to judge them. E.g.,

"... what if TV was largely devoid of anything but fit, athletic men?
Do you think we'd have the same attitudes that we do? Seriously.
I do agree that women sometimes do it to other men, and are more cruel than men in many cases.
But women do not get to experience the normality in media and society that men do in comparison ..."

Follow up with questions, examples, etc... that try to emphasize your point on the matter.

 

[D-rock]

Fantasy is all well and good for what it is, but in my real life I would prefer to have something that is real. Not that I would hook up with somebody that I didn't like because they were real, but I would never choose something that was fake. It's not like there aren't "real" people out there that are what you want. Of course falling in love or getting in a relationship with one of those people is far from certain.

 

[Eric Lindros]

Nothing.

Nobody is perfect. Each person has something uniques, something special.

 

[senob44]

I like "real world" women just fine. There isn't anything I would change about them.

Fantasy women in porn are great to look at sometimes, but there are plenty of beautiful real women that don't use lots of make-up or have airbrushing done to their pics and they are still beautiful.

That being said, many pornstars and models would be beautiful too without make-up or airbrushing.

 

[LBP 76]

That far too many women give far too many men far too much respect.

Men are evolutionarily inferior to women (usually). Far too many women haven't figured that out yet. The day they do, the world will be a better place.

 

[BrassMaster07]

all those things make women seem more "human" than their hollywood/porn counterparts. doesnt bother me in the least

 

[FreeThugz]

Who cares about stretch marks or hanging breasts or something? Its just natural!

These "imperfections" just make women even more interesting!

Yep same for me :thumbsup:

 

[Torre82]

Me? I hate pretty much everybody. But it's that love-hate thing, like.. you can get pissed off at your family but that doesnt mean you never call again them or un-love them.

Renee Zellweger says in Jerry Maguire... (slightly modified for FO's use)

"They might be the enemy. But I still love the enemy."

 

[stainedblueyes]

Physically I love all women of all shapes and sizes... but what really grinds my gears are the Gobby "Bianca-esque" Chav-ettes that populate my city

 

[ninetysixcavy]

Nothing except for their bloody nagging

For the most part, very true. Women do tend to be a little too "nagy" at times.

I answered 8 and 9. Women that put the weight on and figure they can be a lard ass for the rest of their lives, then expect their husband to want to jerk off over her. Ladies, you must turn your man on. That means losing the weight after you give birth.

Also, a female that doesn't put out. I'm sorry, but there have been times when I had a massive hard on and my girl fealt "tired." Talk about making a guy want to log on to Freeones and look at the other girls.

If women want happy men, they must see to it that their sexual needs are met. Sorry if I kind of took a page out of Dr. Laura's book: http://www.ocregister.com/ocregister/life/books/article_1396104.php

 

[Ashleigh]

If every woman looked like a perfect pornstar, then men would become bored and crave something more realistic and interesting. Women should embrace their flaws and so should the men who are looking at them.

 

[LBP 76]

If every woman looked like a perfect pornstar, then men would become bored and crave something more realistic and interesting. Women should embrace their flaws and so should the men who are looking at them.

that sounds like something you would tell a woman on a first date. Sounds nice. But unfortunately not true. Most people don't desire beauty because it's different. They desire beauty because they can't help it. It's pre-programmed into our brains.

 

[Ceska]

Men are evolutionarily inferior to women (usually).

What does it mean to be evolutionarily inferior? This comment strikes me as sexist.

 

[LBP 76]

What does it mean to be evolutionarily inferior? This comment strikes me as sexist.

I believe the average male is slightly less evolved then the average female.

If that sounds sexist, so be it.

I am a man, btw.

 

[Ceska]

I believe the average male is slightly less evolved then the average female.

If that sounds sexist, so be it.

I am a man, btw.

What does it mean to be "less evolved"?

 

[LBP 76]

What does it mean to be "less evolved"?

I am sure you can figure it out. If not, then pm me.

 

[LBP 76]

Well, I'll get even more 'sexist' then.

I think woman, generally, are superior to men.

Hey, I guess I am sexist (though the opposite of most other men, especially on this board).

 

[dick van cock]

I don't like it when they throw their sanitary pads in my toilet.

 

[LBP 76]

Thanks DenostiaFox.

I think the world would be better (though by no means perfect) if women ran it instead of men. I think women are better able to control their more negative, animalistic drives (lust, greed, pride, physical anger) then men are at this point in human evolution. Or maybe they just have less of these 'drives' in them from birth. That may change, but not today.