What Does Your Desktop Look Like?
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As much as I'm a huge, open source advocate, that's a simple, and incorrect, answer. Although their total misuse of "The Cloud" does show how the great majority of consumers don't care, I'll agree with you there. Marketing is king. Substance is not. There's no more proof in that than virtually major innovation being developed on UNIX and in open source, only for people to assume open source is "stealing" ideas "already on Windows" (ha ha ha! Not!).
Yes, they took way too long to "give a fuck." It wasn't until SQL Slammer (2003) that they started to care. And the reason why they were forced to care is because their own, MCSE-wielding professionals started calling them out (because Microsoft was hanging them out to dry).
But understand by 2003, "Longhorn" (NT 6) was already developed architecturally and virtually hitting internal Alphas. They started to re-write some, even their own .NET team (.NET is based on licensed Java code, with similar security mechanisms as UNIX, especially latter versions) pushed for a change away from legacy Win32, and that wasn't going to happen. It would have pushed back everything, and Microsoft believed "Blackcomb" would sort out the mess.
But just as "Cario" in the '90s, what was "Longhorn" became everything, as Windows 7 is merely NT 6.1, neither NT 7 nor the "Blackcomb" planned. Eventually they caved into something like UAC, which basically notifies when a program is using a privilege service call. Unfortunately, it's incomplete. There are many libraries and mechanisms totally not understood by Microsoft, allowing all sorts of access that is not marked privileged. Plus they have outsourced most development outside the US for all NT releases, let alone Microsoft had the "brain drain" to Google and others, losing core architects.
The fact that Microsoft only tracks security issues at the base platform level if part of the problem. People like to point to "security counts" on other platforms -- namely Linux -- but they don't realize that includes the development tools, the office suite, several browsers, just about every desktop application anyone would want, and to a different standard too. MS Office would be considered a non-starter on Linux from a security standpoint.
UAC is not a security fix, it is a tool for software developers (one that Microsoft forced on users) so they get calls from users when they are stupidly raising privilege without writing the software proper. Sadly, Microsoft's own application division is the biggest culprit, because the don't know how to write software proper. I was involved with some early WINELIB (a porting kit from Windows to Linux -- not to be confused with WINE, the emulator, WINELIB is actually a Win32/GDI to POSIX/X11 porting kit), and it's always a total eye opening experience for Windows developers on what not only Windows, not only the crap Visual Studio outputs, but what they don't even think of.
Like the simple, but overlooked issue, of a program being able to write to its own directory where it is installed. You hit Windows developers with the stupid bat for that and they look at you like you're hitting them for no reason. Yet even a simple MacOS X or Linux coder knows that, and wants to now beat the Windows developers with dumb stares down like fuck too.
There's also the issue of how digital signatures work and can be bypassed in Windows. Software can be forged and users will click through. At least Microsoft finally made it default that you cannot install core libraries or drivers without a valid signature. But it's still horrendous how much software can be. That's why Windows seems easy for home users, but it's hell for corporations. It's funny because all the work corporations have to go through to "package" and "validate" Windows applications are already done on Linux systems natively, which users don't understand why they have to deal with.
MacOS X goes too far the other way. They just have images, which can be just as much of a trojan nightmare. Fortunately MacOS X does have some controls, but I wish they'd address them better and with more mandatory procedures.
Sigh ... I'm so going geek! And way off-topic!
I thought this was an English language board :dunno:
Patrick_S
persona non grata
My operating system is Windows 7 and right now i use this image as my background: Lindsay Marie - The Dawn No More Rises
bahodeme
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Windows 7-With Akira Lane & Jenny Poussin in shuffle.
Stupid users would be stupid, no matter if they are on Linux, or Mac, or Windows. Trying to blame the OS for user stupidity is just... stupid. After 26 years with computers, I have not had a virus on my machines since my Amiga days. Why? Because I am not acting stupid.
And here's the kicker: Linux - with it's supposedly glorious, totally safe and completely impenetrable security model (heh, yeah... right) - cannot be used by stupid users.
After 27 years in the making (GNU was started in 1983, the Linux kernel was done in 1991) , no GNU/Linux distro is suitable for placing in the hands of my mum & dad. If I did, they would be calling me constantly asking me "How do I do that?!".
And even I - as a poweruser - would rather dish out 250 EUR for a OEM Windows license than try to wrestle a GNU/Linux distro to obedience, because it's just not worth it! I tried it and gave up because 1) it eats up my time for nothing and 2) it still won't let me do all the things I want to.
Hence, Windows wins. Suck it up fanboy and wank off to your perfect Linux security model.
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lechepicha
Prince of the Rotten Milk
Vista Home Premium for me.
Deepcover
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XP's great man...can't complain. Gonna be XP for a long long long time lol. Had Vista but had to take that shit back due to glitches and frustration.
Yes, you can be stupid on Linux, but stupid to a far lesser extent. In most cases, Linux will just stop you, because it doesn't support certain operations that are considered bad user practices. That's where 90% of the complaints come from users -- especially with e-mail and other things.
I haven't met an IT professional at a corporation yet that didn't just love those moments with users.
Actually, it can, if it's pre-installed and designed for the purpose. Yes, grandma uses it. The only thing she can't do is go down to the local electronics superstore and buy a piece of Windows-only software. But Mac has the same problem too.
100% GUI-based usage. There's no reason to run from the command-line today with Linux. Or should I say ... the only time you're going to hit the command-line in Linux is the same reason you'll do registry edits in Windows.
Sorry, my Mom'n Dad are running their business on it. I have several, small to medium size businesses running on it.
Of course, the money has always been in the larger enterprises.
Money is not why many switch. That's always been the case of people who "get it."
If you're trying to run electronics superstore hardware and software, yes, that's going to be a problem. Of course, most of the stuff sold there only works with one or two versions of Windows. It's called the lock-in/upgrade model.
Home consumers might accept it, but corporations can't stand it.
Dude, I'm not a fanboy. It's called a long-time profession and serious money maker.
Fanboys are the ones who "hate Microsoft." I don't "hate Microsoft." Quite the opposite. I've just grown up with Windows NT since inception, and seen the executives at Microsoft destroy its security. I have plenty of friends who are architects at Microsoft, and I hear their frustrations as well.
Especially when it comes to security matters. No version of Windows has ever been designed for public networks. That is fact.
Yes, you can be stupid on Linux, but stupid to a far lesser extent. In most cases, Linux will just stop you, because it doesn't support certain operations that are considered bad user practices. That's where 90% of the complaints come from users -- especially with e-mail and other things.
I haven't met an IT professional at a corporation yet that didn't just love those moments with users.
Actually, it can, if it's pre-installed and designed for the purpose. Yes, grandma uses it. The only thing she can't do is go down to the local electronics superstore and buy a piece of Windows-only software. But Mac has the same problem too.
Sorry, my Mom'n Dad are running their business on it.
Money is not why many switch. That's always been the case of people wh "get it."
If you're trying to run electronics superstore hardware and software, yes, that's going to be a problem.
Dude, I'm not a fanboy. It's called a long-time profession and serious money maker.
Fanboys are the ones who "hate Microsoft." I don't "hate Microsoft." Quite the opposite. I've just grown up with Windows NT since inception, and seen the executives at Microsoft destroy its security.
Erika Red
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Daaaaaamn! Erika Red's Ballin!!
hehehe - that is me I am Ballin with my big screens, LMAO! or am I spoiled - hmmmm
Erika Red
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And your GDI-WGF subsystems thank you. Plain color is so much better than any gradient, let alone texture, when it comes to the WGF (Windows Graphics Foundation) of Vista/7, let alone the horrendous GDI of XP. You keep your memory usage way down as a result, as Windows is much worse than Apple's Quartz or Free Desktop's (Linux's) Cairo rendering.
Oh God no, you didn't just say Outlook Express, did you? Worst virus redistribution engine of all time ... just saying.
Photoshop isn't coming to Linux any time soon because it's required library support is already well emulated under Linux, solving a problem for Adobe. It's still the commodity standard for photo editing, and won't be replaced any time soon.
Curious to know what video editing software you're using?
LMAO - yeah I tried other email programs most crashed or I just hated them. I do run a dual firewall (cisco and barracuda), and have a email scanner program? But who knows.
As for my video editing you will probably laugh I usually use CyberLink PowerDirector, New version have used it for 3 years. I luv it cause its easy. I have Adobe Premier, but actually hate using it! I used to use it when I edited a hires or HD video, now I can do that in PowerDirector also. but when the video is important - the big boys at Gammae do all the work
Oh and Linux - I an not nerd smart enough there babe, I try, but I let the man with the PhD in CS deal with that crap, lol.
Hope that answers your questions, and I am not flamed to bad for choices - lol.
TheOrangeCat
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