What do you think about a dedicated GIF page on FreeOnes? (poll inside)

[Petra]

We may kind of sort of be thinking about introducing a dedicated page on FreeOnes just for GIFs.

Step 1 is to create the GIF page along with a way for users to upload already created GIFs to the site.

Step 2 is to add a GIF generator to our videos.

So, what do you think? Horrible idea isn't it?!

 

[Automate]

Hmm. I'm not against the idea.. gifs can serve as a concise collection of cumpilations at best when one wants nothing but the most intense of the squirtiest, jizziest fuckings and cummings in as little time as possible. Though you should strongly prefer the webm format since it uses about ~10 times less space compared to an equivalent gif and allows full color depth (millions of colors) in contrast to the maximum of 256 colors in a gif. Although gifs CAN have millions of colors if you know how to hack it.. but that's just it: it is a hack and very likely not supported (and not needed, since far better formats exist) by any browser today. Extremely inefficient in terms of CPU use as well. I saw a 16 million color gif demo somewhere in the web and while the image eventually turned out visually as smooth as the original... well, eventually is really the operative and important word there. Furthermore, it was only a single frame, not an animation.

Additionally, making gifs badly will result in a shit-ton of color banding if the gif author didn't know fuck about doing it properly (e.g. didn't bother or know to use Floyd-Steinberg -dithering) and in any case it will eat a lot of space compared to a webm, no matter how well you optimize the colors and encoding. Playing it will eat more CPU time as well, since I'm pretty sure gifs can't use hardware video decoding as it's such an old format.

Webm doesn't really roll off the tongue as well as gif though. Still, as far as I'm concerned, call them gifs anyway. No reason to change a long-standing practice for that. I haven't used google in about a decade (duckduckgo in general and yandex for porn reverse image searches), but still call web searches googling most of the time.

Most importantly, gifs have one extremely horrible property of always forcibly animating by default as the page is loaded, no matter what you set for autoplay options in the browser (because they apply to videos and gifs are considered to be images rather than videos by all the browsers I know of). They absolutely should NEVER animate until hovered on or clicked. Otherwise it destroys RAM and CPU, like the fucking giphy and tenor front page disasters do. Grinds everything to a halt in an instant on my machine and even if you have a fucking 16-core CPU and 64 GB RAM, it will catch up to you quite fast.

Finally, fuck infinite scrolling with a rusty chainsaw. Well, you probably already know that opinion by heart when it comes to me; I haven't exactly been quiet regarding the "responsive mobile design" fads. Paged browsing is where it's at. Infinite scrolling is the worst when it comes to destroying RAM and CPU use, as well as trying to actually browse any appreciable amount of content. This is not some 3-second attention span shit that every mobile site will want you to believe. Sometimes I might have to browse back to page no. 69 (eeh heh heh...eh) and if the only way to go there is by infinite scrolling.. then I might as well rather cut my dick off with an onion slicer and shoot myself in the asshole with a shotgun while summoning Cthulhu and yelling Hastur as many times as I can in my dying breath. That's still much more pleasant than scrolling infinitely until I find the spot where I left off at some point in the past, all the while having to start over again and again as the browser grinds the computer to such a thorough halt that I have to forcibly kill the browser and start over again.

 

[Petra]

@Automate Good feedback.

Don't worry, there's no infinite scrolling planned for the GIF section as you can see in the design screen.

 

[Little Red Wagon Repairman]

Will work OK with Apple Telephone Number Ten?

 

[FOUser#4510856320198a]

In spite of "liking" it, I didn't understand everything that Automate said, but this gif may, technically, be hot goat piss, in his opinion, I don't know. It's found, I just can't stop laughing at it. This fool is so white. 🤣

 

[Supafly]

I think that Dolhin Dick would be someone that could contribute quite well in such a section.

He has made a number of gifs I find highly enjoyable

 

[FOUser#4510856320198a]

I think that Dolhin Dick would be someone that could contribute quite well in such a section.

He has made a number of gifs I find highly enjoyable

I just came a little. No footage 😒

 

[Harpsman]

Good idea. Hard to beat a good GIF😛

 

[Supafly]

I just came a little. No footage 😒

Respect where it is due!

 

[Steve-FreeOnes]

I think only people who pronounce GIF correctly should be allowed to upload though.

 

[afterlights]

 

[FreeOnes_Adam]

I think only people who pronounce GIF correctly should be allowed to upload though.

Correctly as in the way the dude invented it says it, or correctly as how the rest of world says it?

 

[Steve-FreeOnes]

Correctly as in the way the dude invented it says it, or correctly as how the rest of world says it?

No clues!

 

[Automate]

Here is a program to make the highest quality gifs in terms of colors by the way:

https://gif.ski/

That enables thousands of colors per frame. Mind, those will consume EVEN MORE space (of course) than normal gifs and it will take a lot more time to convert. Gif format is extremely old and inefficient in terms of everything. But at least with gifski, you will certainly be able to minimize color bleeding and banding.

Also this: giphys tutorial on how to make gifs with the best possible palette settings while limited to 256 colors per frame
https://engineering.giphy.com/how-to-make-gifs-with-ffmpeg/

I tried this with one video and ended up with random white streaks flashing in some videos with the last per-frame palette settings. Better to properly check that everything looks all right before posting anything made with this method.

One last thing: the convert tool from ImageMagick suite of tools can be used to make gifs. That yielded the best results in terms of everything with my tests, but it involves a lot of temporary files since the video must first be converted into a series of individual frames (pngs so that every bit of detail from the original video stays intact) with convert. It does require cygwin if you want to use it in windows, so.. probably absolutely nobody around here will be interested in using that method.

Edit: Nevermind, I'm wrong about it requiring cygwin anymore. It DOES have straight up windows builds.

There are windows builds of ffmpeg if you want to use it in a terminal (as you should, since then you can set the best possible settings for gif encoding). There's also WinFF that gives is an easy way to use ffmpeg in windows, but I don't know what quality to expect from its gif conversions.

Final edit: Oh and indeed, @FOUser#4510856320198a's gif is really a shining example of hot goat piss in terms of technical quality: everything going wrong there with the colors. I can make a far superior version of that if I can be bothered. Spent a bit too much time here already (as usual), soooo... don't hold your breath.

 

[Automate]

God damnit. I made that gif from Steve Carell's goofy dancing a long time ago already but the problem now is where to upload it. It's 8.5 megabytes. Imagebam doesn't seem to work, cdn.to breaks the image since animated gifs are beyond its capabilities, several sites require registration.. only place it seems like would work is our enemy: imgur. Uploading there however defeats the whole purpose, since it seems that a gif is automatically converted to a webm when uploading.

The funniest thing here is that the corresponding webm is about 0.6 megabytes in size.

Edit: Oh hey, what the fuck. Imagebam worked eventually:

@FOUser#4510856320198a

Turns out making gifs from videos by yourself rather than using the various online gif makers is really rather work-intensive if you want to do it right. Not surprising. I tried three different methods here: one with ffmpeg per-frame palettes (which again caused that while flash in black areas in one frame), one with imagemagick and the one you see here is generated by gifski. It indeed yielded the best results and more surprisingly, even the smallest file.

Just to drive the point home though, again: the webm corresponding to this gif is still about 0.6 megabytes, about 18 times smaller than that gif and making (AND specifically uploading) that takes a fraction of the trouble compared to making that gif.

 

[FOUser#4510856320198a]

God damnit. I made that gif from Steve Carell's goofy dancing a long time ago already but the problem now is where to upload it. It's 8.5 megabytes. Imagebam doesn't seem to work, cdn.to breaks the image since animated gifs are beyond its capabilities, several sites require registration.. only place it seems like would work is our enemy: imgur. Uploading there however defeats the whole purpose, since it seems that a gif is automatically converted to a webm when uploading.

The funniest thing here is that the corresponding webm is about 0.6 megabytes in size.

Edit: Oh hey, what the fuck. Imagebam worked eventually:

@FOUser#4510856320198a

Turns out making gifs from videos by yourself rather than using the various online gif makers is really rather work-intensive if you want to do it right. Not surprising. I tried three different methods here: one with ffmpeg per-frame palettes (which again caused that while flash in black areas in one frame), one with imagemagick and the one you see here is generated by gifski. It indeed yielded the best results and more surprisingly, even the smallest file.

Just to drive the point home though, again: the webm corresponding to this gif is still about 0.6 megabytes, about 18 times smaller than that gif and making (AND specifically uploading) that takes a fraction of the trouble compared to making that gif.

Dude, your posts are way too long and dense.

Ironically, you failed to note what I'd said about that Office gif being "found", as in "not mine".

I'm a giffing God (relatively, at least).

You also failed at gif. Very, very badly. I am reconsidering my vote.

 

[Supafly]

God damnit. I made that gif from Steve Carell's goofy dancing a long time ago already but the problem now is where to upload it. It's 8.5 megabytes. Imagebam doesn't seem to work, cdn.to breaks the image since animated gifs are beyond its capabilities, several sites require registration.. only place it seems like would work is our enemy: imgur. Uploading there however defeats the whole purpose, since it seems that a gif is automatically converted to a webm when uploading.

The funniest thing here is that the corresponding webm is about 0.6 megabytes in size.

Edit: Oh hey, what the fuck. Imagebam worked eventually:

@FOUser#4510856320198a

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Just to drive the point home though, again: the webm corresponding to this gif is still about 0.6 megabytes, about 18 times smaller than that gif and making (AND specifically uploading) that takes a fraction of the trouble compared to making that gif.

This free host website (a german one) hosts files like that.

https://picr.de/

 

[Automate]

Something much funnier than that gif seems to have happened above.

@Supafly Hmm. Doesn't look like picr.de allows anonymous uploads, need to register right off the bat to upload anything.

 

[Automate]

@Petra and whoever else it may concern in the FreeOnes team:

Have to say this just in case: when it comes to gif tagging, don't let any random tosser just type whatever shit they want to put in tags. You know very well how that will end up. There is a near-infinite amount of misspellings for every word and for example, about 3000 synonyms for "big boobs" (in English alone). Not that more than about a hundred of them will ever get used here, but even one different tag that means the exact same thing as an existing tag is too much. Search space fragmentation resulting from that is one of the most irritating things.

Also, the more you can make searches on the gif site work like the advanced search is supposed to work on the main site eventually, the better. Example: there's a Maggie Green gif and nothing else written in the gif tags other than her name. When searching the gif site for breast size FF (or G), it would automatically and without any other input from anyone understand to display all gifs that have her name as a tag, as well as any other named model who has a gif in there that has matching cup size in the babe bios.

The name tag should be special and separately entered so that it could be used to trigger babe bio searches like that from the main site, so nobody would need to enter anything else when uploading (or later if someone doesn't know when uploading and it's updated after the fact) than a name for known babes. All the rest of the info from the bio would then just automatically follow and be searchable.

 

[Petra]

@Petra and whoever else it may concern in the FreeOnes team:

Have to say this just in case: when it comes to gif tagging, don't let any random tosser just type whatever shit they want to put in tags. You know very well how that will end up. There is a near-infinite amount of misspellings for every word and for example, about 3000 synonyms for "big boobs" (in English alone). Not that more than about a hundred of them will ever get used here, but even one different tag that means the exact same thing as an existing tag is too much. Search space fragmentation resulting from that is one of the most irritating things.

Also, the more you can make searches on the gif site work like the advanced search is supposed to work on the main site eventually, the better. Example: there's a Maggie Green gif and nothing else written in the gif tags other than her name. When searching the gif site for breast size FF (or G), it would automatically and without any other input from anyone understand to display all gifs that have her name as a tag, as well as any other named model who has a gif in there that has matching cup size in the babe bios.

The name tag should be special and separately entered so that it could be used to trigger babe bio searches like that from the main site, so nobody would need to enter anything else when uploading (or later if someone doesn't know when uploading and it's updated after the fact) than a name for known babes. All the rest of the info from the bio would then just automatically follow and be searchable.

For the beginning, the gif page (and uploader) will be very simple. Users HAVE to add the site the gif is from (we're doing this to try to give credit to those that hold IP, stay above board and keep legal issues to the minimum), a category and of course the file.

Users CAN add tags that are already in the system. Later we will be adding a feature that allows them to add tags to the database but this isn't even built for other content yet so we'll figure out how to deal with it later. There will be the opportunity like the babe wiki to update/change mis categorized or tagged content.

As for the rest of the filters, the way we have everything set up, more than likely the filters will be by babe, site, category and tag. It has to be something pulled from the gif upload meta itself. Then of course on the babe index page or search page you'd be able to do a more indepth search for babes that have gifs.