What Do You Not Like About Porn?

[Supafly]

A lot what you guys said I second.

Some of my points:

- When the male talent is just ugly
- Endless pre-shag interview, or the female going through minjutes of prancing, moving around, failibng artistic attempts
- A slap on the ass is nice, but no hitting, strangling, spitting etc.
- keep the camera steady when rolling
- no camera shots with his balls dangling in front of the lens.

 

[John_8581]

:doa82: Ever notice?? :doa82:

.. A scene starts showing a clock at 1:20 pm ... the video runs for 28 minutes, 45 seconds ... at the end of the scene, the clock still says 1:20 pm ..

Why don't the clocks ever work?

 

[Ovidius]

100% agree. I will add a few more:

**Cowgirl position - shot BEHIND her. NO! The very best part about Cowgirl is the ability to see her facial reactions and to be able to kiss her lips/breasts/etc. Porn is geared to men so why do we see Cowgirl shot from behind? Shoot from the Guy's P.O.V. Show us the front of HER! She me Ariella Ferrera's eyes rolling into the back of her head and the violent way she cums. Show me THAT!

You guys have made some good points and I agree with a lot of it, especially the over emphasis on augmentation. All points considered, my biggest beef remains with the camera work, and the slow action. Always pulling apart the girl's butt cheeks, fucking at medium to slow speed, and the only parts of the bodies touching are the privates.

It's so that we can see her asshole.

 

[Killer B]

Excessive tattoos. A little ink is fine but some of these ladies look like they passed out in a rail yard.

I'm also not pleased about the return of hairy bushes. Pussies don't have to be bald but at least keep them neatly trimmed.

 

[FreeOnes_Adam]

:doa82: Ever notice?? :doa82:

.. A scene starts showing a clock at 1:20 pm ... the video runs for 28 minutes, 45 seconds ... at the end of the scene, the clock still says 1:20 pm ..

Why don't the clocks ever work?

Well done. I always look at the clocks too! :clap:

 

[HansMoleman]

I hate the terrible acting. Not everyone is that bad, but some of them... my god. I don't mind a story and some acting, but I feel like some of them don't even try. If I was a pornstar, I think I would try some basic acting lessons.

 

[bootyholic]

Its ok to see here and there, but seriously, we don't have to see the penetration all the time, and it seems they are avoiding anything to do with what real fucking looks like.

 

[anj1ng]

I do hate when they focus the camera to genital and long-time foreplay,too much bright lightning for the scene.I'll barely turn on everytime i see something like that,I'll prefer they put something like soft core porn style (show a little bit non-genital expose)but they do touch each other with intense and a dim lighting maybe work for me

 

[ArthurTurner]

I've never understood the appeal of anal sex in porn, not something I find hot.

Me neither. To each his/her own, but it just doesn't do it for me.

 

[ArthurTurner]

I could make a large laundry list, but it's porn -- taking it seriously is a mistake. Three things come immediately to mind:

- The camera work is uniformly terrible. I saw a scene recently in which the camera person was focused in a pillar, while the performers were off to the side. It was insane. And then there are the guys who cannot keep the camera still for more than five seconds. I'm sure there are a lot of reasons for this (gonzo being the dominant genre is one of them, I'm sure), but it's distracting.

- The "porn missionary position." It's not that often that you see the simple missionary position in porn. The girl has to turned to one side to make absolutely, 100% sure that we know the guy's fucking her. It's insulting, at least to me.

The reason for this, I imagine, is because you can't actually see the male talent's cock clearly at work in conventional missionary. James Deen and Dana Vespoli made fun of this a while back in one of their scenes when Deen stopped while in the midst of doing it to show everyone that yes, he was actually fucking Dana and not faking it. It was funny at the time, but the more I thought about it, the more annoying it was. Good camera work would fix that problem -- I've seen it done well.

- The sometimes creepy age difference between male and female performers. Watching some 18-20 year old girl bang a guy clearly old enough to be her dad weirds me out. It's why I avoid schoolgirl or babysitter scenes like the plague. I know that it floats some people's boats. Just doesn't float mine.

 

[ArthurTurner]

I hate the terrible acting. Not everyone is that bad, but some of them... my god. I don't mind a story and some acting, but I feel like some of them don't even try. If I was a pornstar, I think I would try some basic acting lessons.

There are old timers who tell you that porn performers were better actors35-40 years ago, and they're probably right. Nevertheless, there are performers out there who have some acting ability and experience (beyond Sasha Grey or James Deen), or who at least have earned SAG cards.

 

[Johan]

I see a lot of people telling they don't like this or that because "people don't fuck like this". But I think you guys miss the point : porn is not supposed to be realistic. Porn is supposed to be about fantasies. That's why you have girls with D-cup (or bigger), that's why you have all those giant penises, that's you have so many girld with jhuge asses, that's why very few pornstars don't do anal, that's why you have all these 40 years old men fucking 25 years old girls, that's why there' very few pornstars who don't do lesbian scenes (or FFM threesomes), etc.
If you're looking for realistic on camera sex, go watch amateur porn.


What I don't like in porn :

- The lack of male talents : There's hundreds of girls but only somethings like 20 guys. And some of them are just everywhere. Damn, I'ml tired of seing Keiran Lee's face
- The standardized scenes : blow job, pussy-eating, pussy fucking position 1, 2 & 3, ass-fucking position 1, 2 & 3, blow-job, ejaculation. Please; porn directors, don't do thing exactly in that order...
- Shots on the guy's face.

Disagree here. I am 6'1" and about 200 pounds and in good shape. Being able to pick up and have standing up sex with someone with a light body like Dolly Little or Piper Perri is HOT! To have her holding on around your neck and to have your hands under her ass is incredible. It is also super easy to hit her G-spot this way and drive her crazy. Obviously I can't do it with someone like Blaire Ivory - who is 6-feet tall - but for a spinner "Standing Up" sex is awesome

I'm 6.5, about 220 pounds and I second that.

 

[Sam_369]

Many good points made so far I'm agreeing with.

I think the whole step family thing has gotten a little out of hand. I just find this genre a little weird and creepy.

 

[Pornfan99]

Some of these have been said already:

**Cowgirl position - shot BEHIND her. NO! The very best part about Cowgirl is the ability to see her facial reactions and to be able to kiss her lips/breasts/etc. Porn is geared to men so why do we see Cowgirl shot from behind? Shoot from the Guy's P.O.V. Show us the front of HER! She me Ariella Ferrera's eyes rolling into the back of her head and the violent way she cums. Show me THAT! // Great cowgirl scene with Jenna and Brad Armstrong, in the one where she imagines herself as characters in different books. It is shot from Brad's POV, and is fucking HOT!

Spitting - ALL OF IT! Even for lube. Really - the performers can't find lube on a porn set?!? Come on! I read somewhere they have gallon containers of it!

Women who don't have make-up touch up their rectums.

"Fake" squirters. Again - really? You see a THICK, YELLOW stream - and expect us to NOT think you're urinating???

Bad camera-work: like, doggie-style, and it is from the side with the woman's arms blocking her tits. And/or focusing from above the performers, so you have no visual of the penetration.

CONSTANT moaning...

(To name a few)

 

[maelstrom9999]

About half the porn I watch is American, while the other half is JAV. They are opposite in virtually every way, except for the basic premise of hardcore sex. Almost everything I like about one, I dislike about the other. Certain things I dislike about both.

JAV PROS -

1. They do a better job with clothing, hair and makeup by far than American porn. Not overdone. Nice hairstyles. Real world sexy clothing instead of thongs and 5 inch heals. Their women are attractive in a believable, non cheesy way.

2. Fewer implants and obvious work done.

3. No tattoos on basically any of their women. Maria Ozawa finally got one tat. I think it's the only one I've ever seen in JAV.

4. They take the time to build up scenes and tease the viewer.

5. Their sex scenes don't follow a laundry list of check the box positions and activities. The scenes vary a lot. In one, it might just be BJ. In another, it might just be fondling. The content of the sex scenes actually relates to the story lines, which they take more seriously than we do.

6. The acting, especially the women, is better than American porn.

JAV CONS

1. While it's nice that they like to draw things like clothing removal out to tease the viewer, some things get drawn out too long. You might be treated to 10 minutes straight of breast play in one scene, three minutes of just watching the guy suck her nipples. There has to be a happy medium between the American concept of rushing to the ultimate acts as fast as possible and the sometimes plodding nature of JAV scenes.

2. The clothing is great, but pantyhose? I think in the US we think of pantyhose as something our moms used to wear. Japanese men obviously have a huge fetish for them.

3. Vibrators? Boring. Virtually every movie has a least one lengthy vibrator scene.

4. Pissing and other odd fetishes are mainstream, and so they occur not just in fetish themed movies, but all the time, and when you don't expect it. If you're into watching a chick piss, there should be themed movies for that. It shouldn't be in every third porno movie with no warning.

5. Virtually no anal sex ever. I like to watch anal.

6. Small dicks. I like to watch chicks being fucked by guys with big dicks.

7. Genitalia is censored/blurred. Awful.

8. It's in Japanese and I can't understand the dialogue. This is a problem because their porn is more story and dialogue oriented.

9. JAV focuses a lot on breasts, while American focuses more on ass. I like both but generally prefer ass.

For American porn, just invert everything above. The pros are cons and the cons are pros.

The camera work is a little better in JAV, but honestly, it sucks in both.

 

[FreeOnes_Adam]

I'm really into JAV and its amazing. I can deal with the mosaic censoring to be honest, but it would be nice if more companies gave us subtitles to work with. I love what these girls say.

 

[Elwood70]

Every post so far is a valid point, and I have nothing to add...

Except a question: Does anyone who can change these things actually read threads like this? I've seen more than one thread which asks the same question, some with hundreds of replies. It amazes me that at least one producer or performer hasn't taken a few pointers from the fans to try to improve their product - and consequently, their income.


Can't a mod make some calls or something?

 

[maelstrom9999]

I'm really into JAV and its amazing. I can deal with the mosaic censoring to be honest, but it would be nice if more companies gave us subtitles to work with. I love what these girls say.

Agreed. JAV is much better when you can understand the dialogue, while with American, you can just fast forward through it and it doesn't matter.

If you happen to know of any that provide subtitles, let us know. I only found one site that provided maybe 2 dozen.

 

[FreeOnes_Adam]

Agreed. JAV is much better when you can understand the dialogue, while with American, you can just fast forward through it and it doesn't matter.

If you happen to know of any that provide subtitles, let us know. I only found one site that provided maybe 2 dozen.

I'm currently on the quest to get my collection of Clara Leroy DVDs going. I was going to order from from Japan directly (its not easy to find the real thing) and I'll find out of thats a feature from these guys or not. I know the DVDs are region free. And I want the box art like crazy. JAV box art is stupid good.

 

[maelstrom9999]

I'm really into JAV and its amazing. I can deal with the mosaic censoring to be honest, but it would be nice if more companies gave us subtitles to work with. I love what these girls say.

Oh, and about the mosaic censorship, it probably wouldn't bother me so much if it only affected intercourse, but because they overdraw the mosaic in an attempt to avoid showing even a tiny portion of undistorted genitals, half the woman's face is blurred during a BJ because of the big mosaic over the man's penis. Kind of ruins BJ's.

It's also weird in several ways, like how they usually will show an asshole but not a pussy, as if somehow pussies are offensive but assholes are A-OK. Also, no restrictions on showing cum. You can watch a woman literally lap up cum off the floor but you can't see a dick or pussy.