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Legzman

what the fuck you lookin at?
Some of that shit sounds alright! Maybe I should become a muslim?
 

PlasmaTwa2

The Second-Hottest Man in my Mother's Basement
This thread has the potential to be awesome.
 

LukeEl

I am a failure to the Korean side of my family
Who cares, I prefer the Chruch of the Subgenius' rules instead.
 

jod0565

Member, you member...
Wow.
All of that could fall under the heading - Have No Morals.
 

biomech

Virtus Junxit Mors Non Separabit
Good post, very interesting.
 

habo9

Banned
Yeah its kind of hard for the deniers to admit now , I like the way it gives you the verses of the Quran , right next to it advocating the book saying these things

It isnt hard to see why some become fanatical about there religion , if there good book is saying these things and they dont know no any better , I mean this sort of thing is drilled into there brains from childhood , from adults they trust , if your mum or dad comes up to you when your a kid and says this is bad and this is good , whether its true or not , you believe them 100%

They also advocate the killings of Jews & Christians , because they are an enemy of Islam

Funny that?

When the biggest cause of death to muslims (outwith natural causes) , is by other muslims in the last couple of years , blowing each other up , sectarian killings and just being downright dirty bastards to each other , just because they dont follow the same brand of Islam..

Still dont agree with the war though , when we can pull out and just let them kill each other

And before all the apologists start , Im talking about hardliners here , I know from personal experience there are decent law abideing muslims , we call them good muslims but the question is are they good muslims? What makes a good muslim? A good muslim in our eyes , is probably a bad muslim in the hardliners eyes

So what makes a good muslim , obeying theses rules or not obeying these rules?

Lets get the ball rolling on this , I want to hear what other people think & there opinion , including muslims & generally just about anyone from any walks of life.............

Im looking for worldwide views

Thanks :thumbsup:
 

JayJohn85

Banned
Man thats quite depressing actually. Though having said that there is only 1 reference to there book on that page so like the koran isnt literred with it. I mean I am sure if you combed the bible you'd probably find some smiting, hate and non turning of the other cheek somewhere. In Genesis God wasnt a nice guy.

But yea its bad I already have great difficulty not getting sucked into anti muslim thinking due to the media.
 

JayJohn85

Banned
Yeah its kind of hard for the deniers to admit now , I like the way it gives you the verses of the Quran , right next to it advocating the book saying these things

It isnt hard to see why some become fanatical about there religion , if there good book is saying these things and they dont know no any better , I mean this sort of thing is drilled into there brains from childhood , from adults they trust , if your mum or dad comes up to you when your a kid and says this is bad and this is good , whether its true or not , you believe them 100%

They also advocate the killings of Jews & Christians , because they are an enemy of Islam

Funny that?

When the biggest cause of death to muslims (outwith natural causes) , is by other muslims in the last couple of years , blowing each other up , sectarian killings and just being downright dirty bastards to each other , just because they dont follow the same brand of Islam..

Still dont agree with the war though , when we can pull out and just let them kill each other

And before all the apologists start , Im talking about hardliners here , I know from personal experience there are decent law abideing muslims , we call them good muslims but the question is are they good muslims? What makes a good muslim? A good muslim in our eyes , is probably a bad muslim in the hardliners eyes

So what makes a good muslim , obeying theses rules or not obeying these rules?

Lets get the ball rolling on this , I want to hear what other people think & there opinion , including muslims & generally just about anyone from any walks of life.............

Im looking for worldwide views

Thanks :thumbsup:

Jokes aside if you actually look at the background of some guys who become terrorists it isnt the lack of morals or the virgin crap....Even though the virgin promise probably sounds pretty damn nice to a virginal guy lol. These guys get singled out by mullah's cause they got no friends, Have great difficulty making friends and pretty much isolate themshelves from other people especially westerners. They also cant relate to western culture and never will cause they dont engage.

Also the us and them crap going on in the media now effects guys who did successfully integrate, who go nuts and decide to blow co-workers away.
 

habo9

Banned
Man thats quite depressing actually. Though having said that there is only 1 reference to there book on that page so like the koran isnt literred with it. I mean I am sure if you combed the bible you'd probably find some smiting, hate and non turning of the other cheek somewhere. In Genesis God wasnt a nice guy.

But yea its bad I already have great difficulty not getting sucked into anti muslim thinking due to the media.



I know all about the killings of first borns in the bible & they were quite partial to a bit of terror themselves , both books are full of shit but we've already gone on about the bible and its woes , so I put the boot on the other foot for Islam seems we are quite happy to have a go at any other religion but cant debate the rights and wrongs of Islam , What makes Islam so different?

I have goes at all religion :rofl:

Just wanted to hear what other people thought?

So I put it out there :thumbsup:
 

JayJohn85

Banned
Its the preacher and Interpreters who are to blame for all radical shit if you ask me. There is really no point in trying to take on religion because quite frankly humanity will always need to fill their spiritual hole. Even the most hardcore atheist would secretly be delighted if irrefutable truth came to light that could be scientifically measured and quantified, that god existed. In fact belief in religion can be scientifically explained, Evolution would have definitely favoured it because it creates community something that was and to a certain extent still is essential to human survival.

In the case of Islam you got mullah's who basically started out in most cases as just guys with a deep interest in there religion. Where this diverges from respectable leaders of Islam, is there motivation and the fact they dont meet other leaders and scholars of other religions for theological discussions and debate. They are just wankshafts who saw a quick way to influence, social respect and power within there own community. Highly likely to be uneducated as well.
Its like a documentary I watched where a christian theological stated that uneducated people shouldnt be allowed to read the bible lulz. I agree with it 100 per cent.

Then you got alot of other opportunist shit like scientology, mormonism which was a conman basically and various other assorted cults and religions to do with aliens.
Ron L Hubbard a fucking sci fi author who is even quoted as saying the best way to get rich is to start your own religion.

Of course I would be highly hypocritical if I didnt launch a small attack on my own religion. But everyone is well aware of the history of the catholic church. Hell even got our own serious nutcase branch in America, Opei Dei I think its called and although I never heard of them lol until I read Dan Brown. I have not based my views on the rubbish he writes, I did my own reading and didnt like what I read. Bishop's in America seem to enjoy power and influence in a way, on a power with the bloody pope himself and alot of priests and bishops get away with dung that would have you ex-communicated in good old Europe, and I aint on about the grotesque sex scandels. I am on about the girlfriends, wifes and other assorted shit.(quite the double standard but perhaps Rome's reach isnt that strong)

In short to end my rant its the leaders of religions, If religion was real we have had ample time to fuck it up. Man isnt infallible but also there is great opportunity in religion for inscrutable people to attain power and influence over his fellow man and also wealth.....Cant forget the wealth.
 

habo9

Banned
Its the preacher and Interpreters who are to blame for all radical shit if you ask me. There is really no point in trying to take on religion because quite frankly humanity will always need to fill their spiritual hole. Even the most hardcore atheist would secretly be delighted if irrefutable truth came to light that could be scientifically measured and quantified, that god existed. In fact belief in religion can be scientifically explained, Evolution would have definitely favoured it because it creates community something that was and to a certain extent still is essential to human survival.

In the case of Islam you got mullah's who basically started out in most cases as just guys with a deep interest in there religion. Where this diverges from respectable leaders of Islam, is there motivation and the fact they dont meet other leaders and scholars of other religions for theological discussions and debate. They are just wankshafts who saw a quick way to influence, social respect and power within there own community. Highly likely to be uneducated as well.
Its like a documentary I watched where a christian theological stated that uneducated people shouldnt be allowed to read the bible lulz. I agree with it 100 per cent.

Then you got alot of other opportunist shit like scientology, mormonism which was a conman basically and various other assorted cults and religions to do with aliens.
Ron L Hubbard a fucking sci fi author who is even quoted as saying the best way to get rich is to start your own religion.

Of course I would be highly hypocritical if I didnt launch a small attack on my own religion. But everyone is well aware of the history of the catholic church. Hell even got our own serious nutcase branch in America, Opei Dei I think its called and although I never heard of them lol until I read Dan Brown. I have not based my views on the rubbish he writes, I did my own reading and didnt like what I read. Bishop's in America seem to enjoy power and influence in a way, on a power with the bloody pope himself and alot of priests and bishops get away with dung that would have you ex-communicated in good old Europe, and I aint on about the grotesque sex scandels. I am on about the girlfriends, wifes and other assorted shit.(quite the double standard but perhaps Rome's reach isnt that strong)

In short to end my rant its the leaders of religions, If religion was real we have had ample time to fuck it up. Man isnt infallible but also there is great opportunity in religion for inscrutable people to attain power and influence over his fellow man and also wealth.....Cant forget the wealth.



Well thought out my man , nice reply :thumbsup:

That last bit I couldnt put any better myself , wealth should never play apart in any religion , when that happens it fails to be a religion for me , as for Hubbard and his cronies , that isnt even a religion thats just for people with too much money and no brain....

But what interpretation is right?

Thats basically what Im trying to say? Fanatics or moderates , and for which reasons , just because we dont agree with them doesnt make it wrong

Is it backgrounds , teachings & influence that shape there view points into being extremists or not or is it something completely different
 

Namreg

Banned
read the bible, and you'll find most of those things in there as well.

and people who believe in religion, regardless of which one, are fucking idiots. all of them.
 

JayJohn85

Banned
read the bible, and you'll find most of those things in there as well.

and people who believe in religion, regardless of which one, are fucking idiots. all of them.

Well you may have gathered I am kinda more of atheist I just had to post a bit on my religious background which I assume nearly everyone has one of those....Well unless your folks where hippies.

But calling them all idiots is like calling the majority of the world idiots. I dont think that myself its the spiritual hole thing, Meaning and purpose etc.
Not all people are merely content with just survival and propagating the species but hell if you are thats cool. Mankind is afflicted with high level thinking and philosophy its a curse as well as a gift(or evolutional trait) lol.
 

Namreg

Banned
But calling them all idiots is like calling the majority of the world idiots.

yes it is. :)

a friend (who was born jewish) recently told me "i want to believe, because there is a certain comfort in it, but it simply doesn't make sense." i agreed with him. you can either be religious, or intelligent, but not both. pick one.
 

habo9

Banned
yes it is. :)

a friend (who was born jewish) recently told me "i want to believe, because there is a certain comfort in it, but it simply doesn't make sense." i agreed with him. you can either be religious, or intelligent, but not both. pick one.

I find no comfort in religion , I dont get it , never have

Why look for answers in something that cannot give you answers , its just how you interpretate it & that not getting answers

TBH I would rather make my own desicions in life , than have some preacher tell me what to do , I know right from wrong myself I dont need to pray to anyone to get the answers or fit a book into my way of thinking so I can justify anything I do
 
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