Skyrim. What am I not getting? I've started it three times. I get an hour or two or three in and I'm just not going back in. I feel like I need to like this game, but I'm just not feeling it. HELP!
Video Games That Are Supposedly Good, But You Don't Like
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Oh thats easy. The game was the logical but VERY flawed continuation of a beloved series that was AMAZEBALLS for being open ended, true role playing and unforgiving but fair. Elder scrolls 3 morrowind is the very epitome of open ended. You land on an island and you are told to report to Caius Cosades. He lives in Balmora. Good luck. *they sail away*
No, really. Thats your goal. And I must say it was (past tense, cuz once youve done an amazing thing, there is no amnesia option to replay and get that wonderment back. But anywho)
Skyrim is kinda vast. Kinda nice. Kinda open ended. Kinda good atmosphere/music. And it tries to be like its older siblings. But it isnt.
But it actually sucks. And what people drone on and on about isnt the VANILLA game so much as the version catered to them. But that means you gotta play the game and find the infinite flaws, crashes every 30 minutes, and bland.. well, bland everything.
THEN! You go to the skyrim nexus and download all the mods, overhauls and 'fixes' to make the game what you want it to be.
Thats it, man. Thats all they're saying. You arent missing anything, because its JUST like reading a mediocre book and then going to a site that makes it a 'choose your own adventure' book, and its like.. nice. But not. Because you just took a block of clay and shaped it. The game wasnt shit.
So, I mean.. ethically, that is what a book is ~ in your mind. You filled in the blanks and imagination.
But no. Youre right, Adam. It sucks.
The Elder Scroll games are examples of games that are almost too open ended. There is a lot of stuff in them, but there is a lot of open space, and there really isn't too much that ties most of it together. They never have any real good overall plot or narrative. They just don't feel like living worlds imo, and there is often little reason to go anywhere or do anything other than for the hell of it. Sometimes exploring for it's own sake is good, but often I want a cohesive roleplaying reason my character is doing what he is doing.
Agreed, to a point. Sometimes it is nice to be on-rails.
Games where the narrative is 90% of the whole schlemiel: Metal Gear Solid 4, Luminous Arc series, Those quantic dream games (Heavy Rain, beyond two souls, Omikron the nomad soul, etc)
I dunno, D. Lately I've been loathe to even read an ounce of text.
I want to just leap into the game and figure it out for myself, and it seems I'm hitting those forced, lengthy, idiot tutorials at every step.
I can get past the series pitfalls of tutorials.. I dont go into pokemon ultra heartblack 3 super sexy platinum edition without expecting the exact same intro as the previous 27 games. A tutorial designed for kids that tells you basic-assed, common sense info as if you are a 6 year old.
I guess I'm just searching for a real life simulator. And I dont mean sims!
Ark survival evolved would be the closest thing to it ~ danger all over, the need to build something semi livable, a grind that isnt just 'whackin away on resources for days on end to see a number go up by an arbitrary amount'
Well, to be fair.. I'm also limited to an extreme degree.
I'm on a laptop and the touchpad is ..*closes eyes, sighs* not a viable replacement for a bread-n-butter mouse.The laptop isnt bad, its a reasonable beast for all my purposes.. I could *ALMOST* play outer worlds on it. (Goddammit if only I had twice the RAM, and the HD was solid state.. and I could bump over to windows 7 to drop overall mem usage by half. (GOOD LORD WINDOWS 10 EATS UP HALF FOR NO REASON!)
But I'm sidetracking my other point, which is that there are great stories on shit games, shit stories on great games.. and we really have an excess of choice, these days. Its nice to have choice, but where are the golden eggs? No major studios are tackling creative side projects that might lose money. Indie studios dont have the manpower to complete AND compete. Woe is us.
I luff a great story, but I cant find one.
Got any suggests? Your top five? Any go-to-games you cant stop playing, over the years?My list: Alpha Centauri, fallout new vegas, entrepreneur/the corporate machine, Rebuild series (still loving 3: Gangs of deadville), and Morrowind.
Yeah, it seems most AAA developers have turned to crap, and while great indy studios exist they are limited by the resources they have.
Lets see, off the top of my head of number of video games that had both large budgets and good plots in the last ten years....it's hard to come up with a lot. There isn't many. Off the top of my head I come up with The Last of Us, Witcher 3, maybe the last God of War game, maybe some Yakuza games, Red Dead Redemption, and the first two Mass Effects (to be honest I never was as big on Mass Effect as most people.) The cupboard is pretty bare in that respect.
Everything else if from long ago in a better video game era for that stuff. It's a shame we can't get back into that. Too many developers either think they can't make the money they want outside of online multiplayer stuff or they are too scared to try something new or risky. They aren't going to take a risk when they can just milk people with microtransactions. The video game industry really went downhill when business types and suits started taking creative and content control away from the people in the past that actually gave a damn about making good games.
Lets see, off the top of my head of number of video games that had both large budgets and good plots in the last ten years....it's hard to come up with a lot. There isn't many. Off the top of my head I come up with The Last of Us, Witcher 3, maybe the last God of War game, maybe some Yakuza games, Red Dead Redemption, and the first two Mass Effects (to be honest I never was as big on Mass Effect as most people.) The cupboard is pretty bare in that respect.
Everything else if from long ago in a better video game era for that stuff. It's a shame we can't get back into that. Too many developers either think they can't make the money they want outside of online multiplayer stuff or they are too scared to try something new or risky. They aren't going to take a risk when they can just milk people with microtransactions. The video game industry really went downhill when business types and suits started taking creative and content control away from the people in the past that actually gave a damn about making good games.
Last of us 1 = beaten it like a Torre dick. One of the rare games I liked so much that I jumped onto the multiplayer to see what THAT side of things was like. Luff the game! Naughty dog has pushed, and take this with a grain of salt.. amazing visuals and stories that do NOT fail to entertain. They are one of those 'if only they didnt do THIS one thing' kinda guys, cuz Uncharted was that way. And in a way, Last of us was that way. Lemme 'splain: Amazeballs. VERY interactive. Great RPG elements, great set pieces.. but very, VERY short. (Iknorite, its like the people that want even more Lot Rings and extended edition just wasnt enough lol)
Witcher = on my to-do list. You ever have a series you wanna start but you cant bypass the ones youre working on, right now? Cross-media example: I wanna start boardwalk empire, but I'm finishing up star trek voyager. And since I'm on some damned sci fi kick, these days.. I'll probably watch star trek enterprise, next. Pushing boardwalk back even further. AND THEN I WANNA START BATTLESTAR GALACTICA! See, cuz I watched all the stargates. Literally all of them from start to finish. And the closure is great. Not in watching the last episode of everythhing, that sucks in its own way. But I adored stargate universe cuz it was damn good character interaction inside of a sci fi setting. In my opinion. ANYWAY! closure that it died 10 years ago and I wont have to harbor ANY HOPE whatsoever... the writers strike of 2004+ killed off my lust for watching TV shows before they are finished.
(DAMN YOU LOST! DAMN YOU HEROES! DAMN YOU DEADWOOD! DAMN YOU CARNIVALE!)
God of war games were damned good. Hard enough to present a challenge. Never cheap. Unless your coordination sucks. Had a roommate or three who couldnt do the spikey beam walking parts. Or the timing parts. Or the QTE. So I got home and he passed the controller to me, yada yada.. it was a collective effort. Saved us both from series burnout. SPeaking of burnout.. we killed off 3 in 2005 in a year of drunken, high, lawbreaking goodness all around. Good times.
Barely got started on Yakuza. PS+ gives out free monthlies and I got 3 directors edition off them ~ but my subscrip' ended a month later sooo.. never started. Sadness. :\ Its on the agenda.
Red Dead ~ love it, but.. feels incomplete. The way GTA games do. Like they get what they DO try for, they do it right. But the game feels incomplete, apart from story missions. Like GTA 5 did. A heist game with barely any heists. A gas station robbery option with barely any gas stations you can rob. Tons of NPCs to interact with, but only the once. Golf, tennis and yoga games... but you cant go see a game, watch the dogs race, go to the comedy club like in 4... etc. Hollow. Red Dead makes me laugh, like its slightly skewed from reality enough to make it 'jarring' like a stephen king novel. But funny enough, and good gameplay enough to maintain.
Mass effect is great. But hey, Andromeda. Andromeda is like a mobile game addon ~ enough to satisfy a thirst, but it is, like rogue one or solo, going nowhere but still nice to see.*salut to that* Replayed the mass effect games a few times. Reminds me of a remix of star control games. Decent story, cheesy gameplay decisions abound sometimes, but still pretty damned good.
I'm trying to finish off old things I never started. In a way, cuz I didnt play 'kiddie' systems back when, I never got to appreciate GBA and Nintendo DS stuff. I was all about high replay, hundred hour games. Vice City let me roam around for days, Morrowind didnt reward me in gold for exploring, it just let me map for the sake of seeing whats around the bend, whats in that crypt? Will there ever be an enemy who challenges me, again? And there always was. Just never where I expected it. It took 40 hours to get to the other side of the map, cuz exploration is seecondary to progress is secondary to leveling is sec... blah blah, you already know.
And on that note, *clicks 'post* I'm long winded.
This is about games that are supposedly good. There's no one out there who thinks WWE 2k20 is good. I traded the game back in after 2 days due to everything that was wrong with that game and preordered Cyberpunk 2077. I'm back on WWE 2k19, which although has it's faults is a much better game in the fact that it actually works.
The issue with every 2K game regardless of sports. They copy/paste everything from the previous year and just update stats, looks, clothes, etc.
These games have had the same bugs for years.
Sometimes its just certain things, but the fact that they show up EVERY year?
Issues that lasted for years, or skip a generation:
Everyone can do the RKO, not just Orton
Trio matches dont let you choose who your tag team will be, it'll always default to *WRESTLER X*
In create a superstar mode, changing the color of certain clothes will reset your Moveset.
Adding a decal and moving/stretching/modifying it will break the game somehow, depending on what year you did it in. Transparent wrestler, game freeze, etc
Create a XXXXXX modes are nearly useless. Whereever you set ringmen, tag teams, mascots, crowd animiations.. nothing consistenly works and it often resets to default locations or deletes something.
But whatevs, they're fun to play so long as you dont try to actually do anything besides exhibition matches. (Although some games even broke couch multiplayer mode, so.. YMMV)
I think the xbox games used to be good. When was the last game that worked.. 2007ish? Smackdown vs raw? Not too many problems in those games. Not as many features, sure.
Latest disappointments in the good games category: Harvest Moon /story of seasons
Just wanna settle down and grow some damn crops. But the tutorial takes 30 minutes, no interaction. I bet there is a good game underneath it all, but a bad tutorial can kill any game, IMO. I'll pick it up again, after my patience comes back.
These games have had the same bugs for years.
Sometimes its just certain things, but the fact that they show up EVERY year?
Issues that lasted for years, or skip a generation:
Everyone can do the RKO, not just Orton
Trio matches dont let you choose who your tag team will be, it'll always default to *WRESTLER X*
In create a superstar mode, changing the color of certain clothes will reset your Moveset.
Adding a decal and moving/stretching/modifying it will break the game somehow, depending on what year you did it in. Transparent wrestler, game freeze, etc
Create a XXXXXX modes are nearly useless. Whereever you set ringmen, tag teams, mascots, crowd animiations.. nothing consistenly works and it often resets to default locations or deletes something.
But whatevs, they're fun to play so long as you dont try to actually do anything besides exhibition matches. (Although some games even broke couch multiplayer mode, so.. YMMV)
I think the xbox games used to be good. When was the last game that worked.. 2007ish? Smackdown vs raw? Not too many problems in those games. Not as many features, sure.
Latest disappointments in the good games category: Harvest Moon /story of seasons
Just wanna settle down and grow some damn crops. But the tutorial takes 30 minutes, no interaction. I bet there is a good game underneath it all, but a bad tutorial can kill any game, IMO. I'll pick it up again, after my patience comes back.
There's a lot more to it with WWE 2k20. Yukes, the developer for every WWE Smackdown/Smackdown vs RAW/2k series since the PS1, was let go after WWE 2k19. Visual Concepts was the developer on 2k20, they had shadowed Yukes for the most part on the previous 2k games in the series. When 2k18 was finished, Visual Concepts basically took that game apart to figure out what made it work and how they can change the code, since Yukes developed and owned the code that was used. The problem is that Visual Concepts had no idea what they were looking at and had to start from scratch and because they were working with the 2k18 build of the game, that was incorporated into the 2k20 build, complete with 2k18 bugs, that were fixed in 2k19 and a shit load of new bugs. They had no time to really complete the game and we got what we got. Sure they've added fixes but it's still a mess and the damage has been done. The game is a dumpster fire.
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I would like to retract this statement. I have recently started a new game of RDR2 on Xbox One through GamePass (the original post referred to the PS4 version of the game) and I am enjoying it. Does start a little slow but things pick up nicely.
I'll have to add to the Neverwinter woes. It's like a they intentionally made a game look like a bad console to PC conversion, then made an even worse PC to console conversion out of it.
It could have been so much more, you can't select a target. When it moves out of your line of fire, you scramble to try and get the same target again, which is a bitch when there are a lot of them.
Everything's a key press, you can't combine keyboard and mouse for moving or combat. It's all Keyboard (the bad console to PC conversion). They had a chance to fix that moving onto the console version, but it's just as bad.
It could have been so much more, you can't select a target. When it moves out of your line of fire, you scramble to try and get the same target again, which is a bitch when there are a lot of them.
Everything's a key press, you can't combine keyboard and mouse for moving or combat. It's all Keyboard (the bad console to PC conversion). They had a chance to fix that moving onto the console version, but it's just as bad.
Uncharted. I tried a few of them. 1, 2, and 4. I found it really cheesy. Like, Indiana Jones but like, if they look away his personality and whip, and snazzy outfit, and if it was made for a bad TV or online sitcom. Popular as hell, but I just couldn't get into them. And as you see, I gave the series a lot of tries. The main character is so... blahhhh.
Horizon Zero Dawn. The graphics were amazing but the story was too man-hating. Completely ruined it for me.
God of War on the other hand was just as beautiful as HZD and had a badass story to boot. Wish there were more games like that.
God of War on the other hand was just as beautiful as HZD and had a badass story to boot. Wish there were more games like that.
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