Unemployment Benefits
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Ace Bandage
The one and only.
No, your employer would be paying the one unemployment benefits. It wouldn't make sense for them to give it you voluntarily when they didn't have to.
I thought your employer paid the insurance to the state based on your employment to the (out of your checks actually) and the state then pays the claim when a person becomes unemployed.
In either case, if you're employer doesn't cut you under certain circumstances you won't nor should you be getting a successful claim for unemployment.
Ace Bandage
The one and only.
I'm guessing the first part varies from state to state. But I don't know, I've just always been under the impression that the company pays unemployment. I know you can take them to court to get your benefits if you feel you're entitled and they refuse to pay. I've never had to be on unemployment so I'm not totally sure.
The bottom line though is that nobody is going to pay benefits if they don't have to.
Only way is to get shit canned without a write up of some sort (I think). One of my employers did that once and found out the hard way.
Companies pay the state the insurance for each employee. The claim is made to the state the state verifies the circumstance, etc. to determine eligibility and duration of the claim.
Wouldn't make a whole lot of sense for the companies to be paying for a person directly...after all, that's what "insurance" is for ..to mitigate liability.:dunno:
The employer pays a tax on wages to fund the unemployment benefits. The amount of wages subject to this tax varies from state to state but usually the limit is wages of 8,000 to 25,000 per employee. The tax rate varies but is usually 2 to 5 percent of the wages up to the wage limit.
These rate are subject to the company's history of employees claiming benifits. For example, a seasonal business like heating oil lays off most employees when spring comes. Because the employees of this company draw more in unemployment than the employer paid in unemployment tax their rate of tax is increased until it's paid off. A lot of company have negative account balances and never pay it fully back. On the other hand if a company does not have employees with a history of unemployment benefits their rate of tax goes down. So the system taxes according to claims but the employer indirectly pays for the benefits.
These rate are subject to the company's history of employees claiming benifits. For example, a seasonal business like heating oil lays off most employees when spring comes. Because the employees of this company draw more in unemployment than the employer paid in unemployment tax their rate of tax is increased until it's paid off. A lot of company have negative account balances and never pay it fully back. On the other hand if a company does not have employees with a history of unemployment benefits their rate of tax goes down. So the system taxes according to claims but the employer indirectly pays for the benefits.
So - by this thread- it appears if you work it out w/your employer - the state can pay you. They have to talk to the employer for the specifics on cause, but if you are in good standing w/the company (which I am, it is just my boss- he micromanages), you can get UE. They are not paying any more or less for me to the state. This is a hypothetical scenario- but can soon be reality..it is getting to that point.
the state pays your unemployment. thats why your employer docks your check for that shit. and i really have no reason WHY some employers fight tooth and nail to deny your benefits. Grand Portage Indian Casino still owes me $3000+ in unemployment benefits that were docked from my paychecks. I fought with the state of MN and still didn't get my benefits due to some "sovereign nation" indian law bullshit they claimed, as well as lying about the circumstances etc... yet they still deducted STATE tax from my checks for years. fuck em. no i'm not bitter. Good luck in your fight for whats rightfully yours man. And just for kicks: http://www.ndngirls.com/faq_files/DSC_0086.JPG
The insurance paid is for you if they have to let you go through no fault of your own. You're not owed anything.
If you are fired for cause..then why on earth would an employer pay you while you find another job because you couldn't or wouldn't fulfill the one they employed you to?
In other words, they are employing you because someone thinks they need a body in your position ....if you make it so that they have to let you go and get someone else to do what you wouldn't or couldn't do...why should they agree to allow the state to pay a claim to you?
Spleen
Banned?
Srsly? I didn't know that's how it worked in the States. Shit, I presume it's the States...
In England, it just comes out of everyones tax.
They may not be paying for you since you don't work there anymore. But the employer will pay more in unemployment tax on the remaining employees as a direct result of you getting benefits.
Damn, WTF were you doin' in Grand Marais? You must've been the only brotha up there. There's only like five people up there anyway to begin with. At least now I know how you know about Thunder Bay.
meesterperfect
Hiliary 2020
this is the only post you need to read:
its simple.
tell them your done and ask them if they can lay you off, not fire you and not contest your unemployment.
someone from the unemployment agency will call your employer, make sure they tell them you were laid off.
they might go for it, they might not.
its simple.
tell them your done and ask them if they can lay you off, not fire you and not contest your unemployment.
someone from the unemployment agency will call your employer, make sure they tell them you were laid off.
they might go for it, they might not.
Be careful here, if there's a whiff of collusion then you're both in the shit.If the employer fills the vacancy you've left some awkward questions could get asked.
