TSA needs to go...

:troll: :tongue:

Sweet. Just ignore questions, then. Post things about others being a troll.

I've had enough. Enjoy what you'll undoubtedly think is a success. You've become so idiotic and tiresome, I'm just putting you on ignore. You have become too tiresome and, frankly, stupid, to continue to engage. So, enjoy this. Gloat all you want. You're an idiot. A hardcore idiot.
 

Elwood70

Torn & Frayed.
So; if the general consensus seems to be that they don't need to go, then what needs to be done to address these issues?

Obviously;something needs to be done.
 

Jagger69

Three lullabies in an ancient tongue
I travel a ton and while incidents above are disturbing, I don't have much of a problem with the TSA. They always treat me respectfully and it's not a lot of effort to obey the rules and get through quickly.

The problem I have with them is their blatant ineptitude. I have smuggled contraband (a pocketknife) onto airlines innumerable times. It's ridiculously easy to beat their system. If it weren't, I'd be more supportive of their efforts but they are woefully lacking, unfortunately. It's mental masturbation to think they are actually making a significant difference in making us more secure as travelers.
 

Mayhem

Banned
The problem I have with them is their blatant ineptitude. I have smuggled contraband (a pocketknife) onto airlines innumerable times. It's ridiculously easy to beat their system. If it weren't, I'd be more supportive of their efforts but they are woefully lacking, unfortunately. It's mental masturbation to think they are actually making a significant difference in making us more secure as travelers.

They make no difference at all. This is just another government power grab and people are/were too stoopid to realize it. It's just a jobs program for the idiotic and lazy.
 
Not at all. This is not Nazi Germany.



Replaced with nothing. We never needed them.



They need to go away.

your actually trying to compare the TSA to Nazi Germany? how in the hell can you possibly make that comparison? we never needed them? never ever? i cant help but think of one rather historical day that proves you spectacularly wrong.
 

SpexyAshleigh

Official Checked Star Member
Do I think the TSA needs to be in place? Hell yes. Any airport needs that kind of security check before people get on planes. However, the blatantly humiliating "secondary screening" is unnecessary and does NOTHING to prevent someone with ill-will to step onto a plane.

Last December, I was patted down (fine), put through the new x-ray machines (fine), had my carry-on searched and x-rayed (fine) and IMO that is ALL people should be subjected to. However on top of that, I was required to have a TSA agent with me at ALL times during my time in the airport, including going through security, walking to my gate and waiting at my gate for my flight to board. I couldn't even go to the washroom without a TSA agent waiting at the door. I was also taken to a back room where I was interrogated for half an hour about all details of my life and background, and was forced to pull open my luggage and take it all out onto a table, piece by piece, in front of a large crowd. And to make the experience even more amazing, I got sexually harassed by an agent on my way to my second xray/patdown.

I'm sorry, but did any of that selective screening prevent someone on my flight from blowing up my plane? Nope. Sure they made sure I didn't blow up the plane, but the rest of the passengers on my flight didn't have to be subjected to an ounce of the humiliating treatment that I had to deal with. The random secondary screening is bullshit and does nothing. If they truly believe that it does prevent anything, then enforce it on every single passenger instead of subjecting it to one or two unlucky passengers per flight. Not that most of it was necessary. If their millions of dollars spent on X-ray machines can't pick up a bomb hiding in my snatch, then wtf is pulling my luggage out/interrogating me/talking dirty to me going to do?

Sorry, but the TSA has done nothing but instill fear in me to fly to the US. I have to fly next month and I am dreading it more than you know. I'm not afraid in the slightest of a terrorist - I'm afraid of those who claim to be fighting terrorism...isn't that sad? (and for the record, I get why Americans are afraid, I emptathize with you re: 9/11. I get why security is in place. I just believe that it doesn't have to go as far is it has gone. Terrorism is scary and very real but I have a higher chance of being on a flight with a drunk pilot than I do being on a flight with a terrorist - I'd rather take my chances and not have to deal with what I went through again)
 

Mayhem

Banned
your actually trying to compare the TSA to Nazi Germany? how in the hell can you possibly make that comparison? we never needed them? never ever? i cant help but think of one rather historical day that proves you spectacularly wrong.

That one day proves nothing. There was already security apparatus in place, it just needed to be more competent. And if it was, it still wouldn't have mattered. The American traveller was never going to tolerate increased security/precautions until an attack/disaster took place. We were going to cling to our God given right to show up at the airport 10 minutes before take-off no matter what. And don't even try to tell me I'm wrong abou this. I come from an extended family of business travellers and I've ridden my share of airplanes too. Any security checkpoint anywhere that slowed people down was going to be an unemployed security checkpoint within a day.

If I had been running that 9/11 Commission, it would have been a real short hearing and a one page report. America and it's need to let someone die before it lets itself be inconvenienced one iota was to blame for the 9/11 attacks.
 

Will E Worm

Conspiracy...
So; if the general consensus seems to be that they don't need to go, then what needs to be done to address these issues?

Obviously;something needs to be done.

What needs to be done is they need to go. like Mayhem said, "There was already security apparatus in place, it just needed to be more competent."

The problem I have with them is their blatant ineptitude. I have smuggled contraband (a pocketknife) onto airlines innumerable times. It's ridiculously easy to beat their system. If it weren't, I'd be more supportive of their efforts but they are woefully lacking, unfortunately. It's mental masturbation to think they are actually making a significant difference in making us more secure as travelers.

:clap:

They make no difference at all. This is just another government power grab and people are/were too stoopid to realize it. It's just a jobs program for the idiotic and lazy.

:clap:

That one day proves nothing. There was already security apparatus in place, it just needed to be more competent. And if it was, it still wouldn't have mattered. The American traveller was never going to tolerate increased security/precautions until an attack/disaster took place. We were going to cling to our God given right to show up at the airport 10 minutes before take-off no matter what. And don't even try to tell me I'm wrong abou this. I come from an extended family of business travellers and I've ridden my share of airplanes too. Any security checkpoint anywhere that slowed people down was going to be an unemployed security checkpoint within a day.

If I had been running that 9/11 Commission, it would have been a real short hearing and a one page report. America and it's need to let someone die before it lets itself be inconvenienced one iota was to blame for the 9/11 attacks.

:goodpost:
 
and yet me, a young man, tallish, scruffy faced, semi-offensive t-shirt, faded jeans, leather work boots, wallet chain, pierced ears etc gets through airport security with a half-bored, half-amused "move along now" gesture almost as though i'm wasting their time by going through their line...:dunno:
 
Top