Trump would like muslim to have "special ID that would note their religion"

Is ANYBODY still standing up for Trump, after all his lies and his more and more fascist politics?

And Carson joins him in this shit.

You tell me you will vote for these men?

I have no more respect for you.

You rang?
 

Supafly

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Trump is pushing forward into territory few imagined candidates would dare to go, and it seems like he has a plan of stepping it further and further into open fascism.

Firing up and defending his crowd when they "rough up" black protesters, talking of a giant deportation plan including an omnious "Deportation Force", the like of Eisenhower with his "Operation Wetback", which was just shy of the ramps of Dachau, bullying journalists, now he pokes fun if people with handicaps (Must tey be also get removed in his new order?), Trump is safe to have a lot of still worse ideas to talk about in the months to come.

The heads republican party is rumoured to have meetings about how to dispose of him, as Trump will become unvoable for anybody short of a hardcore american taliban

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-prompts-nazi-references/
 
Remember way back when I said I'd wish Trump would win the nomination because while it would be a train wreck and because of that people wouldn't be able to turn away there would be a great amount of hilarity in it all?

I apologize. I was wrong. I guess I put too much faith in too many people of this country and in humanity when I made that statement. I thought any sane person wouldn't be able to take Trump seriously, and there were a vast majority of at least sane people in this country. The humor has now vanished from the situation. It's bad enough that Trump shows borderline mental disorders like barely controlled narcissism, being a pathological liar, and just being shear delusional to the point he can blatantly and shamelessly dismiss profoundly strong evidence that any rational person in the world, even from all ideologies and across the political spectrum, believe when it suits him or proves him wrong. It’s not just a normal political thing. He does it to a much greater degree above what the other worst politicians do in this country. Then you add in the thinly veiled hate speech, demagoguery, and unsettling large detachment from reality, and Trump is no longer funny. He's actively dangerous.

I still doubt he will become president, but the amount of people that seem to follow his drivel, and just as blindly as he does dismiss obvious things he says that are either reprehensible or nigh indisputably wrong is very scary. It tells us a lot about ourselves, and it's not a good thing.

Being upset at the system or thinking life isn't fair when it isn't is one thing, and people that are upset with that often have a legitimate gripe. However, throwing in your support for somebody that is a complete utter dipshit because your angry and to want somebody that's angry too and rants a lot isn't the way to go. That just makes you as big of a dipshit as the person your following. There is no excuse for diving head first off the cliff of stupidity.

Some might like a person that is bellicose or outspoken, but that is only a good thing when the person doing it isn't an idiot or slimeball and knows what he's talking about. There is a saying, "Better to be silent and thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt." Trump removes all doubt a lot.
 

georges

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ok it is time to show you people what Obama thinks about Catholic schools from http://www.catholicvote.org/video-obama-calls-for-an-end-to-catholic-schools/
Earlier this week in Northern Ireland, Notre Dame honorary-degree holder President Obama called for an end to Catholic schools, in front of an audience of about 2,000 young people — many of them Catholic:
This was part of his official prepared remarks which are now available on the White House website:

“…Because issues like segregated schools and housing, lack of jobs and opportunity — symbols of history that are a source of pride for some and pain for others — these are not tangential to peace; they’re essential to it. If towns remain divided — if Catholics have their schools and buildings, and Protestants have theirs — if we can’t see ourselves in one another, if fear or resentment are allowed to harden, that encourages division. It discourages cooperation.”

I would argue this is actually even worse than it seems at first glance.

If this sounds crazy, remember how crazy it sounded only a few years ago that Catholic institutions would be forced by the government to pay for contraception and abortifacient pills, or how crazy it sounded only a few months ago that the IRS would intentionally target conservatives for audits and other politically-motivated harassment.

Obama’s remarks also, once again, went out of their way to single out Catholics. As Fr. Z pointed out:

Off the top of my head, I can’t think of a foreign visit to a Islamic nation where he told people on his arrival that they shouldn’t have madrasas. Can you?

Did he when visiting, say, Israel, say “You Jews shouldn’t have synagogue schools and you Muslims shouldn’t have mosque schools.” I can’t remember. Did he?

Of course not — because such comments would rightfully invite criticism and be condemned.

Outside Catholic circles, I don’t see anyone talking about what Obama said about Catholic schools in Ireland.

Protestants should be offended as well.

And here’s my biggest concern — Obama really believes what he said. He really does believe Catholics and Protestants having their own schools is “part of the problem.” And so does the left.

So speak up now, while we still have a chance of grabbing his attention and showing him we’re not going to stand for it.

After all, under Obama we have seen the rise of a toxic government culture where unelected bureaucrats feel enabled to target and harass American citizens whose political views differ from their own.

Now that President Obama has essentially saw fit to declare open season on Catholic schools abroad, what’s to stop the U.S. Secretary of Education Arne Duncan or other officials in that department from seeing Obama’s remarks as their excuse to start harassing Catholic schools here?

and also a rape committed by a radical muslim http://madworldnews.com/religion-peace-strikes-school/ :
"Family members don’t often brutalize each other over minor religious offenses such as incorrectly praying the Rosary or forgetting to say “Amen” at the end of a prayer, but Islam is anything but normal or peaceful. This is seen over and over by those claiming to adhere to the teachings of Muhammad. The “religion of peace” has struck again, and this time, it was in a public school. Women are treated as cattle or worse, and often, they are not allowed to make their own decisions. One teenager found this out the hard way when she was dragged out of school and beaten.
Youssif Z. Omar is a devout Muslim and, as a such, follows a strict Sharia law, which degrades women, even to the point that the woman is responsible for her own rape. Omar, as he was at a school in Columbia, South Carolina on Wednesday, noticed a 14-year-old female family member. His interest piqued to a point that he had to stop and confront the young woman.
She was not wearing a hijab, the traditional headscarf that some Muslim women wear. This was simply unacceptable to Omar, and he grabbed the girl by her hair, dragged her down a flight of stairs, and slapped her in the face because her attire offended him. Authorities were called after he pulled her by her hair into his car. Police arrested the “peaceful” Muslim on charges of child abuse. Unfortunately, he posted the $4500 bail and is free already.
If Islam is a peaceful religion, as apologists claim, Omar would have left the girl alone, since she was literally doing nothing at all wrong, especially in the eyes of the law and the school. But he became so irate and so utterly offended at the sight of the girl lacking the hijab that he flew into a violent sociopathic rage and attacked a 14-year-old girl. The left will keep defending Islam, however, until it’s too late to escape Sharia law."

So isn't that enough for you ??? Time to get real people and stop drinking the kool aid. The worst liar since two terms Obama and there is no single doubt about that.
 
georges, you're either an idiot or you're full of shit. Most probably both.

For decades there was a cvil war in Nothern Ireland, between the protestant majority and the catholic minority, with the IRA (Irish Republican Army, a catholic militia) doing terrorism against the UK government (N. Ireland is part of UK).
Now that the country is at peace, that catholics and protestants are no longer at each other's throats, it would be good for catholics and protestants kids to all go to the same school insteand of having catholic kid in catholic schools and protestant kids in protestant schooks. It would be good to have mixed schools that would provide both protestant and catholic religion course, so that catholics and protestant kids could study and play together, so that they would be separated only for religion course. Because when different kids from different backgrounds, of different race, different religion, etc. live together, they learn to accept and respect each other.
Mixed religion schools would make peace in N. Ireland go one step forward.

It's not "open season on catholic schools abroad", not even in N. Ireland. It's open season on segregation, on resentment, on distrust.

It's too early to call for the same thing in Israel, muslims and jews are still at each other's throats. But when Israel will be at peace (if it ever is), I hope there could be mixed religion school ther as well. But the problem is a little different : catholics and protestants are both christians, they both pray the Lord, belive in Jesus and Mary, etc. They just pray differently. The dogmas are different, the way they pray are different but the faith is quite the same. Islam and Judaism are very different...
 
I would argue this is actually even worse than it seems at first glance.

Bill Donahue, president of the Catholic League, has a different take on Obama’s remarks. He says critics have taken the words wildly out of context – if they’ve paid attention to the words at all.

"Obama was not condemning Catholic schools – he was condemning segregation,” Donahue wrote. “He was calling attention to the fact that where social divisions exist, the prospects for social harmony are dimmed. How can anyone reasonable disagree with this observation?”
 
Now I guess georges is gonna call Donahue a liberal, a leftist, a communist, an Obama supporter, an ISIS sympathiser...
 

georges

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georges, you're either an idiot or you're full of shit. Most probably both.

For decades there was a cvil war in Nothern Ireland, between the protestant majority and the catholic minority, with the IRA (Irish Republican Army, a catholic militia) doing terrorism against the UK government (N. Ireland is part of UK).
Now that the country is at peace, that catholics and protestants are no longer at each other's throats, it would be good for catholics and protestants kids to all go to the same school insteand of having catholic kid in catholic schools and protestant kids in protestant schooks. It would be good to have mixed schools that would provide both protestant and catholic religion course, so that catholics and protestant kids could study and play together, so that they would be separated only for religion course. Because when different kids from different backgrounds, of different race, different religion, etc. live together, they learn to accept and respect each other.
Mixed religion schools would make peace in N. Ireland go one step forward.

It's not "open season on catholic schools abroad", not even in N. Ireland. It's open season on segregation, on resentment, on distrust.

It's too early to call for the same thing in Israel, muslims and jews are still at each other's throats. But when Israel will be at peace (if it ever is), I hope there could be mixed religion school ther as well. But the problem is a little different : catholics and protestants are both christians, they both pray the Lord, belive in Jesus and Mary, etc. They just pray differently. The dogmas are different, the way they pray are different but the faith is quite the same. Islam and Judaism are very different...
Shut up already socialist idiot. Was Arafat someone peaceful with Jews???? Encouraging terror and bombings is nothing peaceful at all. It is not with Al Aqsah martyr birgades, the Fatah, the Hamas and Islamic Djihad groups who are all religious zealots and aboslutely the worst of the worst people that you will ever have peace.
 
Dit I say Arafat was peacefull. I certainly don't. And the current palestinian leaders are even worst than him. But Israel has its share of responsability in the current situation of the Israel-Palestine conflict.
I agree having peace with terrorists organisation is almist impossible. But There could have been peace. Peace was on its way in 1995 when Arafat and Rabin signed the Oslo I Accord. Unfortunately, it all ended because of a fcking Israel extremist who shot Rabin in the back. See, extremists on both sides.

Anyay, I noticed you only respinded to the Israel-Palestine part, you said nothing about how rong you were on Obama and Catholics schools...
 

georges

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Dit I say Arafat was peacefull. I certainly don't. And the current palestinian leaders are even worst than him. But Israel has its share of responsability in the current situation of the Israel-Palestine conflict.
I agree having peace with terrorists organisation is almist impossible. But There could have been peace. Peace was on its way in 1995 when Arafat and Rabin signed the Oslo I Accord. Unfortunately, it all ended because of a fcking Israel extremist who shot Rabin in the back. See, extremists on both sides.

Anyay, I noticed you only respinded to the Israel-Palestine part, you said nothing about how rong you were on Obama and Catholics schools...
You can't sadly go back in time. The situation is what it is and it won't really change but perhaps worsen with others collateral conflicts that only add fuel to the fire.
 
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