Trump : Jerusalem is the capital city of Israel. The US Embassy will be moved from Tel Aviv

Defiant Trump confirms US will recognise Jerusalem as capital of Israel


‘My announcement marks the beginning of a new approach to the conflict’
Palestinian president says US has abdicated its role as mediator



Donald Trump has defied overwhelming global opposition by recognising Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, but insisted that the highly controversial move would not derail his own administration’s bid to resolve the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

In a short speech delivered at the White House, Trump directed the state department to start making arrangements to move the US embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem – a process that officials say will take at least three years.
“I have determined that it is time to officially recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel,” Trump said. “While previous presidents have made this a major campaign promise, they failed to deliver. Today, I am delivering.”
Trump said: “My announcement today marks the beginning of a new approach to the conflict between Israel and the Palestinians.”

The president’s announcement provoked condemnation from US allies, and a furious reaction from Palestinian leaders and the Muslim world. Within minutes of Trump’s announcement, US embassies in Turkey, Jordan, Germany and Britain issued security alerts urging Americans to exercise caution.


The United Nations Security Council is likely to meet on Friday to discuss the move, after a request by eight countries on the 15-member body, including the UK, Italy and France.

Trump stressed that he was not stipulating how much of Jerusalem should be considered Israel’s capital. Palestinians see East Jerusalem as the capital of their own future state, and Trump did not rule out a future division of the city.
“We are not taking a position of any final status issues, including the specific boundaries of the Israeli sovereignty in Jerusalem, or the resolution of contested borders. Those questions are up to the parties involved,” the president said.

But the move marks a break with years of US precedent – and with general global opinion, which sees the fate of Jerusalem as a matter for comprehensive “final status” negotiations between Israelis and Palestinians.
British prime minister Theresa May said Trump’s announcement was “unhelpful in terms of prospects for peace in the region”, and said the UK did not intend to follow suit.
The French president, Emmanuel Macron, and the German chancellor, Angela Merkel, also condemned the move.

Israel’s government rushed to congratulate Trump for the speech, which the prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, described as an “important step toward peace”.
But the Palestinian president, Mahmoud Abbas, said that the US had effectively abdicated its role as a mediator in the region. The chief Palestinian negotiator, Saeb Erekat, said: “President Trump just destroyed any policy of a two-state solution.”
The move was also criticised by Turkey, Jordan, Egypt and Lebanon.

In a social club in the heart of Jerusalem’s Shuafat refugee camp, young Palestinian men grew increasingly angry as they watched the speech translated into Arabic on a Palestinian television channel.
“This is shit!” shouted a man called Abu Atya. “He’s just said Jerusalem is the capital of Israel. This speech is going to cause big trouble.”
Another man, Hamdi Dyab, grew incredulous and agitated as he watched the speech.
“He’s saying he’s going to move the embassy,” he said. “This is very dangerous speech. Things don’t look good. We are calling for a new intifada.”

Trump argued that continually delaying recognition and the embassy move by signing waivers, as his predecessors had done, had not brought peace any closer.
“After more than two decades of waivers, we are no closer to a lasting peace agreement between Israel and the Palestinians. It would be folly to assume that repeating the exact same formula would now produce a different or better result.”

Trump presented his decision as the recognition of “the obvious” and “the right thing to do”.
“Today, Jerusalem is the seat of the modern Israeli government. It is the home of the Israeli parliament, the Knesset, as well as the Israeli supreme court,” he said. “It is the location of the official residence of the prime minister and the president. It is the headquarters of many government ministries.”

The president suggested that the acknowledgement of Jerusalem’s role in the state of Israel would actually have a positive effect on negotiations.
“This is a long overdue step to advance the peace process and to work towards a lasting agreement,” Trump said, but he did not explain how it would help negotiations in the face of such an angry reaction from Palestinians and their supporters.

Some observers have suggested Trump’s announcement represented a political gift to his close ally Netanyahu, in the expectation of future concessions at the negotiating table – but it was unclear what Netanyahu would offer in return and why the US move was made in advance of substantive talks.

After announcing his order for the state department to start work on moving the US embassy, Trump sat down at a table in the White House diplomatic reception room and did something that seemingly had the opposite effect: signing another presidential waiver on the 1995 Jerusalem Embassy Act, which ordered the transfer of the diplomatic mission from Tel Aviv.
White House officials said there was no contradiction, and that the waiver signing was necessary to prevent a cut in state department funding stipulated by the act until the new embassy is actually opened. They said previous presidents had used the waiver to stop any progress on moving the embassy, while Trump was directing practical work to start.

In his speech, Trump said: “This will immediately begin the process of hiring architects, engineers, and planners, so that a new embassy, when completed, will be a magnificent tribute to peace.”

Vice-president Mike Pence stood behind Trump as he delivered his address, symbolising the support of Christian conservatives that Pence represents, but it was unclear how the move squared with the efforts of Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner, and his special representative on international negotiations, Jason Greenblatt, to engineer a peace proposal with the support of the Israelis, Palestinians and regional powers like Saudi Arabia.

Peter Welch, a Democratic congressman who has organised briefings with Greenblatt on Capitol Hill, said he was mystified by Trump’s move, as the Kushner-Greenblatt initiative appeared to have been showing promise.
“I thought a trust-building process was underway that was having positive impacts,” Welch told the Guardian after the speech. “But the president woke up and with this provocative announcement threatens to undo everything his administration had been doing to build trust and make progress.
The president has been going over there establishing good ties with the Sunni states, he obviously has close relationships with the Israeli government, he was making progress even with the sceptics in the Palestinian Authority, and with a single announcement he blows it all up.”
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/dec/06/donald-trump-us-jerusalem-israel-capital


Damn it, this moron is making ALL THE WRONG MOVES.
He's right, Jerusalem is, de facto, the capital city of Israel. but diplomaticaly recognising it is a terrible mistake. It's the kind of unilateralmoves that can only bring harm, that's gonna ourage muslims all over the world, against both the US and Israel. Even usual US allies in the region are livid.
The status of Jerusalem is something that needs to be discussed, agreed on by both parties, not something that can be unilateraly decided by a third party to the conflict.
 
This moron is trying to go to war with North Korea, Middle east, Mexico, Canada and China at the same time. Soon the whole world is going to hate us. The uneducated Trump base thinks he is doing a great job but the truth is we cannot afford to lose our closest allies.
 
The status of Jerusalem is something that needs to be discussed, agreed on by both parties, not something that can be unilateraly decided by a third party to the conflict.

The actual status of Jerusalem was decided in 1967 when east Jerusalem was won over from Jordanian forces. It is the capital of Israel and where it's Knesset resides.

And for the palestinians, i.e., the arabs living in Judea and Samaria, a recognized capital is not what they will day of rage over and kill people for, but as always, because there's an Israel to begin with.

Like the democrats losing in 2016, they just can't accept it.
 
The actual status of Jerusalem was decided in 1967 when east Jerusalem was won over from Jordanian forces.

The underlying issues have never been resolved. Just because one military won over another does not mean there is lasting peace in the region. Take for example North Korea vs South Korea, India vs Pakistan, Israel vs Palestine etc etc. even though we won the war in Afghanistan the Taliban still control over some of the parts. We won the Gulf war but there is still instability in the region….. and hence the suicide bombings, IEDs, al quida, Islamic state etc.


Being a stupid trigger happy meathead will not solve anything.
 
The actual status of Jerusalem was decided in 1967 when east Jerusalem was won over from Jordanian forces. It is the capital of Israel and where it's Knesset resides.

If I reember it correctly, you're opposed to going back to the 1967 borders. But still you think we should stick to what was decided in 1967 about Jerusalem.
So basicaly, from 1967, you keep what's favorable ot Israel and rejet the rest. You want Netanyahu to eat his cake and still have it...
 
The underlying issues have never been resolved. Just because one military won over another does not mean there is lasting peace in the region. Take for example North Korea vs South Korea, India vs Pakistan, Israel vs Palestine etc etc. even though we won the war in Afghanistan the Taliban still control over some of the parts. We won the Gulf war but there is still instability in the region….. and hence the suicide bombings, IEDs, al quida, Islamic state etc.


Being a stupid trigger happy meathead will not solve anything.


Yes, the underlying issue (Israel existing) hasn't been resolved. That is the underlying issue. It's not the diplomatic status of Jerusalem in regards to the U.S. In 2005, Israel withdrew all jewish settlements (i.e., people from their homes who had lived there for generations) from Gaza and what did that get them? A slew of rocket attacks from Gaza as well as tunnel smuggling and incursions by arab murder squads on jewish families.

I'm going to be careful here so I don't join my compadre, but you using words like stupid, and moronic, and uneducated - that's a nice glass house you have, shame if something were to happen to it.
 
You want to prioritize the Israel issue when there are much more important issues that need to be dealt with. Taxes, Health care, North Korea, sexual assault on women etc. Why?

The Trump base has always been dumb, stupid, uneducated, moronic. This is a fact and that will never change.
 
It's the TOPIC of this thread you fucking (censored).

And that was the question..... why is your "savior and your lord" prioritizing Israel when there are more important things to deal with...... especially when he does not have a clue what he is doing.... you fucking (censored) should have been able to figure it out.
 
If I reember it correctly, you're opposed to going back to the 1967 borders. But still you think we should stick to what was decided in 1967 about Jerusalem.

the 1967 borders that you and others refer to were prior the conclusion of the six day war when Israeli forces fought against Jordan who at the time controlled east Jerusalem and Israel won and re-unified Jerusalem and has remained so since. That was what was decided in 1967 along with the continued existence of Israel.

The status of Jerusalem is something that needs to be discussed, agreed on by both parties, not something that can be unilateraly decided by a third party to the conflict.

a third party like the United Nations?
 

Ace Boobtoucher

Founder and Captain of the Douchepatrol
'Am yisrael chai. For more than twenty years American Presidents have made this Promise and finally we have one with guts enough to finally follow through. Jerusalem is the eternal Capitol of Israel and should be recognized as such.

Fuck "Palestine."

That whole Taylor Force Act gives me a chubby.
 
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a third party like the United Nations?

The United Nations has played a germane role in preserving peace in the world after the 2nd world war. This has been a platform where everyone in the world can sit down and talk peace instead of nuking each others asses off. Today world powers have enough nukes that can wipe life off from this planet several times.
And why are we rejecting the UN? Because the UN is trying to help out a hand full of refugees whose children are getting bombed by chemical weapons, people who are drowning in the sea?

We have to open our hearts to the poor and the suffering. The United Nations is germane to the preservation of peace on this planet. We think we have it all figured out but we dont.
 
So much for his fantasy that HE would be the president who would finally broker a peace in the middle east. He boasted mightily about being the right person, with the right skill set, for the job.
This sure as fuck isn't going to forward that agenda.
My family members in Israel are appalled. They can't believe the recklessness of this move.
Other than right wing Israelis, I don't think anybody else in the entire region thinks this is a good idea, including Trump's new BFFs the Saudis.
 
'Am yisrael chai. For more than twenty years American Presidents have made this Promise and finally we have one with guts enough to finally follow through. Jerusalem is the eternal Capitol of Israel and should be recognized as such.

Fuck "Palestine."

That whole Taylor Force Act gives me a chubby.

You have a strange fetish sir....
 

meesterperfect

Hiliary 2020
This is perfect.
Now this move can be used as the basis for the next major false flag attack to justify more wars.

The sooner we ALL understand that the government of Israel backed by the banks OWNS the USA the better off we will all be.
They own your politicians, they own your media.
And just who was that Balfour Declaration personally written and addressed to , I forgot?
"Here you go head of the biggest international banking family in the world, here is Palestine compliments of the British GOV with special thanks to the hundreds of thousands of dead and maimed American boys who came to save our sorry asses when all was lost".
"What?" The people who already live there?
"Just go in and put guns to them and their childrens heads......they'll leave." "Then tell the world they attacked us because they are anti sematic".

So I see it pretty clearly for what this is.
Declare Jerusalem the capital> Create a major false flag attack and kill a bunch of humans> Blame Muslims and say they did it for revenge for the jerusalem thing> Attack more of Israels neighbors like Iran and Syria because they just won't go down easily like the rest.


Ah you know what? forget all that.
Fuck Palestine. Fuck all Arab and Muslim countries. They did 9/11.
I say kill them all. Men women and children. All of them. Carpet bomb them for months like we did Libya.
(Why did we attack and kill a million Libyan civilians and hand their country over to Al Qaeuaeueada again, I forgot?)
And do so why calling youre country the greatest place on Earth.
 
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