Tips. Tipping. Tipper?

We don't tip over here, so never needed to. Though I have a couple of times when someone has been absolutely fantastic to me. Though when over in the US, I was tipping around 20% I think. It is a hard one, particular when you living on nothing. I just get a bit annoyed when people expect a tipand get angry when they dont get much, when they have put in no effort. The person needs to work hard for a good tip.
 

Rey C.

Racing is life... anything else is just waiting.
20%-25% for waiter/waitress

25%-30% for bartender

30%-35% for shemale prostitutes (depending on the size of the boobs and the wang)


^^^:rofl:

I tend to hang around 20%. If the service is bad, I'll usually have a word with the manager. What I did with one waitress who had an attitude, I didn't leave anything for her. I gave the 20% to her manager and asked him to divide it among the cook and the busboys - they deserved it more than she did. Whether he did that or not, I have no idea. But that made the point that I wasn't the problem. And I never let her be my waitress after that (I'm sure she would have put something "special" in my food). If it's some restaurant or bar where I'll probably never be again and the service is bad, I leave a $1 bill under a napkin with "Poor Service: You didn't care, so I didn't tip" written on it.
 
We don't tip over here, so never needed to. Though I have a couple of times when someone has been absolutely fantastic to me. Though when over in the US, I was tipping around 20% I think. It is a hard one, particular when you living on nothing. I just get a bit annoyed when people expect a tipand get angry when they dont get much, when they have put in no effort. The person needs to work hard for a good tip.

In the US there is a ridiculous custom of tipping the bar staff simply for serving a ****.As other posters have said already it's not part of our UK culture-if I go into a pub I expect prompt service, a full measure and a sample of a **** I've not tried before.This without tipping (if I tried tipping in a pub it would be refused)
Restaurants are slightly different for some reason.It's usual for customers to leave something or to decline the change.
 

Spleen

******?
If I recieve bad or just "average" service I probably wont tip. I don't think people should automatically get tipped, this is wrong. If people think they barely have to do their job and still get tips, they will never bother trying to improve.

If I think someone deserves that bit extra, then I am a very generous tipper.


Here's a question, raised by Mr Pink, why do we feel the need to tip waitresses, yet you'd never ***** of tipping a guy at mcdonalds? Even though he's probably working just as hard.
 

Rey C.

Racing is life... anything else is just waiting.
If I recieve bad or just "average" service I probably wont tip. I don't think people should automatically get tipped, this is wrong. If people think they barely have to do their job and still get tips, they will never bother trying to improve.

If I think someone deserves that bit extra, then I am a very generous tipper.


Here's a question, raised by Mr Pink, why do we feel the need to tip waitresses, yet you'd never ***** of tipping a guy at mcdonalds? Even though he's probably working just as hard.

Well, if he took my order, carried my food out to me and checked on me to see if I wanted anything else, I'd certainly tip him too. But waitresses and waiters make about $3-$4 an hour around here, so they pretty much live on tips. I'm guessing most McD's pay at least $9 an hour these days. Plus, the government taxes servers on implied tips; it's assumed by the IRS that they're getting at least a certain amount, whether they do or don't. That's nothing recent - as best I can remember, that IRS ruling took effect back during the Reagan Administration.
 

ChefChiTown

The secret ingredient? MY BALLS
Well, if he took my order, carried my food out to me and checked on me to see if I wanted anything else, I'd certainly tip him too. But waitresses and waiters make about $3-$4 an hour around here, so they pretty much live on tips. I'm guessing most McD's pay at least $9 an hour these days. Plus, the government taxes servers on implied tips; it's assumed by the IRS that they're getting at least a certain amount, whether they do or don't. That's nothing recent - as best I can remember, that IRS ruling took effect back during the Reagan Administration.

For all of the waiters/waitresses that I know, it doesn't work like that for them. The government can't assume anything about their income because every restaurant has a different customer base, which means that every restaurant has a different income, which means that every restaurant has a different average amount of tips that come in for their waiters and waitresses. With such a huge variable, nothing can be assumed when it comes to finances.

Plus, not every restaurant handles their tips in the same manner. Some restaurants let each waiter/watiress keep their individual tips. Some restaurants make each waiter/waitess throw their tips into one big pot and then it gets divided equally among all of them. Some restaurants make their waiters/waitresses offer some of their tips to the busboys and food runners. Etc.
 
For all of the waiters/waitresses that I know, it doesn't work like that for them. The government can't assume anything about their income because every restaurant has a different customer base, which means that every restaurant has a different income, which means that every restaurant has a different average amount of tips that come in for their waiters and waitresses. With such a huge variable, nothing can be assumed when it comes to finances.

Plus, not every restaurant handles their tips in the same manner. Some restaurants let each waiter/watiress keep their individual tips. Some restaurants make each waiter/waitess throw their tips into one big pot and then it gets divided equally among all of them. Some restaurants make their waiters/waitresses offer some of their tips to the busboys and food runners. Etc.

unfortunately the IRS is starting to work the service industry over and allocating tips on checks. They have started this within the past few years, mainly large places with a large number of service employees such as the casinos. I know this for a fact!
while there are a few places that may pay a decent wage, most do not, so tips become more of a necessity than a luxury. I don;t understand the big deal?! if you have the money to visit an establishment, eat, *****, mingle, whatever, enjoy the game etc, whats a few dollars? if you are that hard pressed for cash then maybe staying home was a better option.
harsh, yes, but as a former worker in the industry, thats my thoughts.
due to that, i overtip. if the service was good, but on avg, 20 percent as long as they were pretty good.
 

Alyssa Rose

Official Checked Star Member
If I recieve bad or just "average" service I probably wont tip. I don't think people should automatically get tipped, this is wrong. If people think they barely have to do their job and still get tips, they will never bother trying to improve.

If I think someone deserves that bit extra, then I am a very generous tipper.


Here's a question, raised by Mr Pink, why do we feel the need to tip waitresses, yet you'd never ***** of tipping a guy at mcdonalds? Even though he's probably working just as hard.


Well I worked as a waitress in Indiana and I only made 3.00 dollars an hour, tips are what I lived off of.

Now the way I tip depends on quite a bit of things actually. If the service was downright shitty and it was the waiter/waitresses fault, then they dont really get anything. I mean like when the place is empty and it takes them 20 minutes on a refill because they are too busy talking to actually work kind of thing. Now if they are slow and the place is packed to where each waiter has 6 tables at a time, I'm going to be a little more understanding.

If I have great service the tip will be great.

Now when I'm in California my tips aren't as high as when im in Kentucky or most other states because California pays their waiters and waitresses minimum wage (which is like 8.50 right now) plus tips. In almost all other states they only make between 2.50 and like 4 bucks.

Also I'm no millionaire and sometimes theres more month left at the end of the money but If I have to go out when Im like flat broke (ie:a friends birthday or something) and I can only tip 1.50 because thats seriously all I have to spare, then they need to take that and stop all the huffing and puffing about a bad tip. Especially when your with a group of like 5 or more, its like come on now, your obviously getting more than one tip so stop your bitching.

When I was a waitress I worked damn hard for my tips and I'm not just gonna give a waitress a good tip because 'I've been there' they still need to earn it.

(Funny side story really quick, when I was on a date for valentines day at this restaurant Don Pablos they were so packed and I was looking for a job so I filled out an application and the manager came down like while I was on my date and basically interviewed me then told me I was hired and could start the next day, well after she left I obviously apologized for taking time away from our date and he said, 'well **** if I'd known you were gonna get a job at the place I took you to for dinner, we woulda went to Hooters!' lol I thought it was funny :o)
 

Rey C.

Racing is life... anything else is just waiting.
For all of the waiters/waitresses that I know, it doesn't work like that for them. The government can't assume anything about their income because every restaurant has a different customer base, which means that every restaurant has a different income, which means that every restaurant has a different average amount of tips that come in for their waiters and waitresses. With such a huge variable, nothing can be assumed when it comes to finances.

Plus, not every restaurant handles their tips in the same manner. Some restaurants let each waiter/watiress keep their individual tips. Some restaurants make each waiter/waitess throw their tips into one big pot and then it gets divided equally among all of them. Some restaurants make their waiters/waitresses offer some of their tips to the busboys and food runners. Etc.


I don't know what, if anything, has changed over the past few years. But yeah, at one time anyway, the government certainly could and did assume certain things about tip income. The "Tip Tax Fairness Act of 2003" may have changed some of this. I dunno.

I just did a quick Google and here's what popped up:
'Large Restaurants' and the 8% Rule

Large restaurants must follow special tip reporting rules. The IRS defines "large restaurants" as those where tipping is customary, food or beverage is provided and consumed on the premises, and, in the preceding year, the average number of hours worked by all employees on a typical business day was more than 80. If your restaurant meets these criteria, you must allocate tips to your employees if the total tips reported are less than 8 percent of total sales (adjusted for carry-out sales, service charges and sales taxes).

Allocated tips are subject to the employer's portion of FICA taxes. Tips can be allocated based on each employee's share of gross receipts, hours worked, or another method based on an agreement with your employees. Most restaurants allocate using the gross receipts method. You only withhold income and FICA taxes on reported tips, not on allocated tips. Allocated tips are reported separately on the employee's W-2.

Although the 8 percent figure is the threshold used by the IRS for tip allocations, your employees are still required to report all their tip income. Even if your employees report 8-percent in aggregate, your restaurant may still be audited and assessed back FICA taxes on unreported tips as calculated by the IRS, particularly if, as mentioned, unreported tips are less than charged tips.
 
not sure what the rules are on this either, as far as allocating tips, but here's what they did at a large establishment about 2 years ago.

******** servers made somewhere between 4-5 dollars and hour.

The IRS came in and said "we believe you can make at least 12 dollars an hour in tips alone, so that's what we are basing your taxes on."
"sign this and it will be taken out of your paycheck. Don't, and You Might get audited."

Basically, they scared everyone into saying "ok" and lets say you made 40 dollars in tips in eight and a half hours, you got taxed on on 100 dollars (12 per hour for 8.5 hrs)

They could have at least handed out some vaseline, no?!
 

squallumz

knows petras secret: she farted.
i extremely rarely go out to eat. and i mean very very rarely. maybe 5 times a year. im cheap, ill admit it. unless im doing well with money or i experience an exceptional experience, or a good blowjob..
 
I consider myself to be a generous tipper, but it depends on the service and how long I have to wait for things. Waiting excessively long for drinks and food is something that really bothers me, but I realize it's not always the waiter/waitresses fault. I tend to tip very well at places like Hooters, but who doesn't? Bartenders generally get good tips from me as well, even though opening a **** and handing it to me isn't that hard. Tattoo artists always get very good tips from me as well, as long as the work turned out okay.
 
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