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The Trump Presidency

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Ah, I didn’t notice the quotation marks. I peruse through a lot of shit quickly and sometimes too quickly. My secretary will shove a paper in my face and I read it and hand it back and she says” You did not read that” And I did.
It’s gotten me into trouble before.
 

georges

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It's obviously fake.
But why would you want it to be real?
If it was real it would mean that America's school system sucked even more than we thought it did. :(

Why couldn't it be real? And how do you know it is fake?? Has your dear community organizer Obama Notrauma improved the scholar system back then during his two terms presidency?Not,as far as I know. We know the level of mediocrity ans the shitty low level standards that the democrats strive for so I wouldn't be astonished.
 

Luxman

#TRE45ON
Once again some republican created a stupid photo with quotes purposely taken out of context.
WTF is wrong with y'all republicans?!?!?!
I know most republicans avoid talking to black people, but that's the way most black people talk in their communities.
LeBron James is worth over $400 million, he got rich by focusing on basketball and ignoring everything else, so he never bothered to learn "proper English".
Are y'all that desperate that you have to bash the way someone talks???

Divide and conquer, that's what rich aholes like Trump do to make us fight each other while he bamboozles America and all it's citizens.

This is the truth.
 

georges

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Once again some republican created a stupid photo with quotes purposely taken out of context.
WTF is wrong with y'all republicans?!?!?!
I know most republicans avoid talking to black people, but that's the way most black people talk in their communities.
LeBron James is worth over $400 million, he got rich by focusing on basketball and ignoring everything else, so he never bothered to learn "proper English".
Are y'all that desperate that you have to bash the way someone talks???

Divide and conquer, that's what rich aholes like Trump do to make us fight each other while he bamboozles America and all it's citizens.

This is the truth.

You are wrong all over the line. Fact is that Trump has reduced black and hispanic uneployment to their lowest levels. Also his support among blacks and hispanics has significantly risen
Black Support For Trump Has Nearly Doubled From a Year Ago
https://thepoliticalinsider.com/trump-approval-rating-among-blacks-doubled/
Black Pastor Declares Trump to Be ‘Most Pro-Black’ President In Our Lifetime
https://thepoliticalinsider.com/darrell-scott-trump-pro-back-president/
‘WE ARE IN THE MIDST OF THE LONGEST POSITIVE JOB GROWTH STREAK IN HISTORY’
http://checkyourfact.com/2018/08/02...ush&utm_source=daily_caller&utm_campaign=push
Youth Unemployment Hits 50-Year Low Under Trump Admin
https://www.westernjournal.com/ct/y...&ff_campaign=manualpost&ff_content=2018-08-19
So what's not to be happy??
You want to talk about divisive and poor economics, this is what applies to Barry
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/apr/28/barack-obama-presidential-legacy-economy
 

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Luxman

#TRE45ON
Once again you're posting photos with fake statistics.
And unemployment has been steadily decreasing for the past 6 years, but i'm sure it will go back up by 2020.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/193290/unemployment-rate-in-the-usa-since-1990/

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https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/apr/28/barack-obama-presidential-legacy-economy

"And when you think in relative rather than absolute terms, there’s a lot of legitimacy to that discontent, more than Obama is willing to admit. The chief accomplishment Obama has been touting is job growth: somewhere between 9.3 and 13.6m new jobs over two terms, depending how you measure it, with unemployment falling from 10% at the height of the recession to 5% today.

Donald Trump has disputed these numbers, saying he “heard” real unemployment to be as high as 42%. But even the Labor Department’s broadest unemployment measures, the U-5 and U-6 rates – taking into account discouraged workers, those who have given up looking for work – are around 6 and 10%, respectively, and have been declining as well.

But job growth isn’t everything. Job quality matters a lot, and wage figures paint a less rosy picture. Real median hourly wages have risen as well, but barely: just 7% over the past 7 years. One can see this in where job growth is happening. Those jobs projected by the Labor Department to grow the most over the next decade are concentrated in low wage service industries: personal care aides (median income, $20,980), fast food workers ($18,910), retail salespeople ($21,780), customer service reps ($31,720). A greater share of jobs today are part-time than before the recession.

Then there’s the question of how well those gains have been distributed. Over half of all income growth between 2009 and 2014 went to the top 1% of all income earners, who saw their incomes rise 27%, while the bottom 99% got a raise of 4%, according to Berkeley economist Emmanuel Saez. Median household incomes have only recovered to what they were in 1996, meaning for the vast majority of Americans, the recovery has been one in name only.

As a president who arrived at the White House in the midst of the worst economic crisis in generations, Obama deserves credit for staving off catastrophe. As one who leaves seeking a legacy, he might look for a more compelling one than “it could have been worse.”

There’s good reason for presidents not to pin their legacies on jobs: Obama’s average job growth rate of 1.1% may not match that of Clinton (2.5%) or Reagan (2.1%), but all three pale in comparison to Jimmy Carter (3.1%) and Lyndon Johnson (3.9%): both enormously successful job creators, and both one-term presidents."
 

Luxman

#TRE45ON
Donald Trump's businesses owe $1.8bn to more than 150 different institutions, new study suggests

Trevor Potter, a former legal adviser to George H.W. Bush and John McCain, told the Journal: "The problem with any of this debt is if something goes wrong, and if there is a situation where the president is suddenly personally beholden or vulnerable to threats from the lenders."

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...source-of-study-president-elect-a7512586.html

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As the “king of debt,” Trump borrowed to build his empire. Then he began spending hundreds of millions in cash.

During the 2016 campaign, Trump continued to brag about how he’d mastered the art of spending other people’s cash.
“I do that all the time in business: It’s called other people’s money. There’s nothing like doing things with other people’s money, because it takes the risk,” Trump told a campaign-trail audience in North Carolina in September 2016. “You get a good chunk of it, and it takes the risk.”

https://www.denverpost.com/2018/05/06/donald-trump-king-of-debt-claims/

As president Trump can abuse America's money and power to do "favors" for the assholes he owes money to, like the mafia/Putin, the possibilities for corruption are endless.
 

georges

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Once again you're posting photos with fake statistics.
And unemployment has been steadily decreasing for the past 6 years, but i'm sure it will go back up by 2020.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/193290/unemployment-rate-in-the-usa-since-1990/

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https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/apr/28/barack-obama-presidential-legacy-economy

"And when you think in relative rather than absolute terms, there’s a lot of legitimacy to that discontent, more than Obama is willing to admit. The chief accomplishment Obama has been touting is job growth: somewhere between 9.3 and 13.6m new jobs over two terms, depending how you measure it, with unemployment falling from 10% at the height of the recession to 5% today.

Donald Trump has disputed these numbers, saying he “heard” real unemployment to be as high as 42%. But even the Labor Department’s broadest unemployment measures, the U-5 and U-6 rates – taking into account discouraged workers, those who have given up looking for work – are around 6 and 10%, respectively, and have been declining as well.

But job growth isn’t everything. Job quality matters a lot, and wage figures paint a less rosy picture. Real median hourly wages have risen as well, but barely: just 7% over the past 7 years. One can see this in where job growth is happening. Those jobs projected by the Labor Department to grow the most over the next decade are concentrated in low wage service industries: personal care aides (median income, $20,980), fast food workers ($18,910), retail salespeople ($21,780), customer service reps ($31,720). A greater share of jobs today are part-time than before the recession.

Then there’s the question of how well those gains have been distributed. Over half of all income growth between 2009 and 2014 went to the top 1% of all income earners, who saw their incomes rise 27%, while the bottom 99% got a raise of 4%, according to Berkeley economist Emmanuel Saez. Median household incomes have only recovered to what they were in 1996, meaning for the vast majority of Americans, the recovery has been one in name only.

As a president who arrived at the White House in the midst of the worst economic crisis in generations, Obama deserves credit for staving off catastrophe. As one who leaves seeking a legacy, he might look for a more compelling one than “it could have been worse.”

There’s good reason for presidents not to pin their legacies on jobs: Obama’s average job growth rate of 1.1% may not match that of Clinton (2.5%) or Reagan (2.1%), but all three pale in comparison to Jimmy Carter (3.1%) and Lyndon Johnson (3.9%): both enormously successful job creators, and both one-term presidents."

I don't post fake statistics The 70's whether it was Lyndon B Johnson or Carter, the economic growth were not really comparable with the modern era of the 80's-00's were globalization and internet widespread developpment went fast. You want numbers fine I will give you are comparos of Obama Vs Reagan and Reagan vs Clinton from the Bureau of Labor Statistics and the Bureau of economics as well as the labor department.
The reagan recovery allowed a 4.79% of gdp growth of recoveries over 23 quarters, the average other post 60 recoveries were of 3.97% against 2.24% for Obama Notrauma, truely an incompetent and inefficient leader. Reagan beat the shit of all other candidates if we look at the second chart.
If you look at the first charts GDP Growth recovery 18.5% for Reagan against 6.7% for Obama, Household income +4.3% for Reagan -4.75% for Obama, Payroll jobs +11% for Reagan +2.3% for Obama, Long Term unemployment -49% for Reagan +11% for Obama, Foodstamp Enrollment -8% for Reagan +34% for Obama, Misery Index-33% for Reagan +21% for Obama, Average weeks unemployed 15.2 for Reagan and 39.8 for Obama and at last for what concerns deficit as share of GDP 5.1% for Reagan 7.3% for Obama
Third chart illustrates the number of jobs of created under each president. Number of jobs created by Carter 10.3millions, by Johnson 12.2millions, by Reagan16.1millions, by Clinton 22.9millions and by Obama only 5.7millions.
Obama deserves zero credit aside making a fucked aca , having a record of people living on food stamps and raising the debt. All what Democrats know to do is creating taxes, taxes and taxes. Your very same incompetent dear Leader Obama said that there will be no more steel industry and yet thanks to Trump more than 500000 jobs are promised. 3 millions are off the food stamps thanks to Trump. The guardian isn't a very reliable source but I gave you concrete and solid facts.
 

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georges

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Donald Trump's businesses owe $1.8bn to more than 150 different institutions, new study suggests

Trevor Potter, a former legal adviser to George H.W. Bush and John McCain, told the Journal: "The problem with any of this debt is if something goes wrong, and if there is a situation where the president is suddenly personally beholden or vulnerable to threats from the lenders."

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...source-of-study-president-elect-a7512586.html

As the “king of debt,” Trump borrowed to build his empire. Then he began spending hundreds of millions in cash.

During the 2016 campaign, Trump continued to brag about how he’d mastered the art of spending other people’s cash.
“I do that all the time in business: It’s called other people’s money. There’s nothing like doing things with other people’s money, because it takes the risk,” Trump told a campaign-trail audience in North Carolina in September 2016. “You get a good chunk of it, and it takes the risk.”

https://www.denverpost.com/2018/05/06/donald-trump-king-of-debt-claims/

As president Trump can abuse America's money and power to do "favors" for the assholes he owes money to, like the mafia/Putin, the possibilities for corruption are endless.

First link from an english biased anti trump website. Explain me then if Trump is supposedly the king of debt according to that Dolt of Trevor Potter how then the S&P 500, Nasdaq jumps to record highs as US and Mexico strike trade deals
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/27/us-...-after-powell-signals-further-rate-hikes.html
It is thanks to Trump if USA the longest job recovery
http://checkyourfact.com/2018/08/02...ush&utm_source=daily_caller&utm_campaign=push
Top Reagan economic adviser makes bold prediction about how long Trump boom could last
https://www.westernjournal.com/top-reagan-economic-adviser-bold-prediction-long-trump-boom-last/
Also Trump has a MBA of finance from one of the most prestigious schools, do you have the same diploma than him and did you build an empire comparable to his ???I don't think so and neither had any other presidents. Trump is a financial guy first so finances are his field.
 

Supafly

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... and he still has not paid off one single contractor he left behind broke in his casino bankruptcies.

Yeah, very likely he will leave your country the very same, and fuck all the gullible fans who keep on ignoring this path

 

georges

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... and he still has not paid off one single contractor he left behind broke in his casino bankruptcies.

Yeah, very likely he will leave your country the very same, and fuck all the gullible fans who keep on ignoring this path


Hardly , the gullible fans were the ones who voted for Nobama the community organizer twice with his failed and shitty economic program.
 
Again a fake news media vid from the mainstream media Obama devotee channel who employs Trevor Noah, no credibility in this bs


Georges. Aren't you supposedly a very strong proponent of the military and veterans? If so, how do you excuse the disrespectful behavior of Trump towards a decorated veteran upon that veteran's death?
 

georges

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Georges. Aren't you supposedly a very strong proponent of the military and veterans? If so, how do you excuse the disrespectful behavior of Trump towards a decorated veteran upon that veteran's death?

Mc Cain has banned Trump from his funeral and let's not forget a respectful note towards Mc Cain but before his death left a note with harsh comments against Trump, so Trump striked back. Mc Cain was given a presidential pardon let's not forget this too.
 

Luxman

#TRE45ON
Mc Cain has banned Trump from his funeral and let's not forget a respectful note towards Mc Cain but before his death left a note with harsh comments against Trump, so Trump striked back. Mc Cain was given a presidential pardon let's not forget this too.

Rumors that the Arizona senator admitted that he was a 'war criminal' and that was he pardoned by President Nixon for his crimes are not true.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/john-mccain-war-crimes/
 
Mc Cain has banned Trump from his funeral and let's not forget a respectful note towards Mc Cain but before his death left a note with harsh comments against Trump, so Trump striked back. Mc Cain was given a presidential pardon let's not forget this too.

Georges, I have fallen victim to McCain misinformation and paid the price but McCain never was granted, requested or required a pardon for anything stemming from his military service. Some of his actions are debatable but your statement simply is not true.
 

Supafly

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Hardly , the gullible fans were the ones who voted for Nobama the community organizer twice with his failed and shitty economic program.

Again:

Deflecting. You admit he did these things multiple times, and is proud of having done that. His so heavily emphasized "Loyalty" that he - like Soprano, like Gotti - absolutely calls for, he has zero loyalty for whoever he does business with, and that is why during these Casino crimes, his lawyers begun visiting him in pairs, because they noted, "he has trouble remembering what he said in talks" a nice way of saying: Trump does not care what he said yesterday. It is all burnt earth he leaves. All his former teammembers that are stumbling in the Mueller probe and other judges cases, they are on their own, unless he sees reason to offer pardons if he knows they would tell on him
 
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