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The Male Complex

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LOL
I hear that!
I was thinking he meant me and I hadn't even posted here yet ;)

eurologic - there's no way under any possible cirucumstances it woud appeal to me to see (or even fantasize about) some other guy doing my woman -- but then that's just one opinion

2 opinions, thats fucked up
 
Monogamy comes in many values ...

If valuing monogamy in a relationship is fucked up then I'm content being fucked up.
I value the monogamy of my wife and our relationship.
But that doesn't mean I would have a problem if she wanted a second, male lover in the bedroom to satisfy her more completely.
I love her and care so much for her that I would have her continue to enjoy myself, but just in that added way.

And as I've said repeatedly, I'd never reciprocate in wanting in kind.
Not because of anything "fair" or some other, unobjective view, but because I want to make love to only one woman in my life as long as she's with me.
That's just me, what I want, and not what some "standard" or other non-sense says I should or should not.

As I stated in the "cocks touching" thread, I don't think I'd have a problem experiencing a DP with a lover.
In fact, I think a "seesaw" of one in against one out, opposing, would be quite erotic and very stimulating.
All while still in the context of doing it to our mutual, female lover.
And that includes the thought of the additional male creampie'ing her anus, and its warmth oozing all down over my cock while I'm still penetrating her.

I don't have to be gay or sacrifice my lust for one woman for the rest of my life to think such way -- I actually find it's quite compatible.
 
The answer I stupidly decided to give (oh well) ...

What does your wife think of this;
Think of what?

That I'm open to her pleasure, should she ask anything?
That I'd accommodate any request or desire she would want, even outside of myself?
That I'll find a way to enjoy the situation, no matter what?

We've had this discussion and she says she doesn't want anyone else but myself.
Should that change, I think it shows I'm ready to find a way to not only fulfill her needs, but make it enjoyable for myself as well.
But you go ahead and find a way to demonize my statements into what they are not.

You're very good of that with regards to how I feel about my wife.
You seem to not only want to trivialize my love for her, but somehow try to make me feel "bad" for whatever you focus on.
It's funny, but it'll never work.

You've tried many times now -- like comparing Kerry Marie to my wife with no limbs, and countless other "if aliens came down" type questions.
It sure is entertaining though! And I think others will agree! ;)

if you don't mind the personal question?
I will never mind personal questions of me -- short of my name.

Unfortunately, again, what you tend to do is demonize my answers.
You did that in your little tangent regarding Kerry Marie compared to my wife without limbs, etc...
It goes to your constant judgment and guilt trips you give others in various threads (true love, children, etc...)

If you'd stop the latter, I'd promise to provide answers to any and all personal questions you may have of myself.
If you have to have your dislike of your life fixated on just one person, you can have me and have full reign over responding to any and all of my posts.
I can take it. What I don't like is how you throw your guilt and issues on everyone else.
Again, like in the "true love" and "children" and general "porn opinion" threads.
 

McRocket

Banned
Re: Monogamy comes in many values ...

In fact, I think a "seesaw" of one in against one out, opposing, would be quite erotic and very stimulating.
All while still in the context of doing it to our mutual, female lover.
And that includes the thought of the additional male creampie'ing her anus, and its warmth oozing all down over my cock while I'm still penetrating her.
So even though your wife does not want to do it, you still find the thought 'quite erotic and very stimulating'.

So basically, you want to have a MMF threesome.
And the part about you wanting to do it to please your wife is irrelavent since she already stated (according to you) that she does not want it.

Just wanted to clarify that.

Well, maybe one day whe will change her mind and you will get your desire fulfilled.
If it makes you both happier, I sincerely hope it happens.

Have a nice day.
 
Re: Monogamy comes in many values ...

So even though your wife does not want to do it, you still find the thought 'quite erotic and very stimulating'.
Did you read ... All while still in the context of doing it to our mutual, female lover?

Here's the deal ... the fact that I would be pleasing her -- as even Fox pointed out -- has a lot to do with it.
I'm sure I could find other example situations where I could find it "very erotic and stimulating."
There is a difference between wanting something and finding a way to make a situation pleasureful for yourself.

So basically, you want to have a MMF threesome.
No! I did not say that I "want" to have one.

What I said is if my wife wanted one, I could find it very stimulating and erotic.
I could find ways to make a lot of other situations very pleasureful, if my wife wanted them.
Remember, this is related to my post in the "cocks touching" thread.

I'm sure the relationship aspects would make it more complex, which is I why I do not!
But if she ever wanted to, and we ever found a friend that we could trust (ideally he would be married himself with a wife that was allowing), I would not be against it.
And, physically, I could find it enjoyable -- hence back to the "cocks touching" thread.

And the part about you wanting to do it to please your wife is irrelavent since she already stated (according to you) that she does not want it.
Where did you get that?
I could think of other situations that both she and I do not want that we have discussed together!
It's called an open, calm and exploratory dialog -- which leads people to have long, fruitful marriages.

Just wanted to clarify that.
No, you just wanted to -- yet again -- demonize my statements to fit your attitude.
You continually want to take anything good and wonderful about the relationships of people, children, lovers, etc... and blast them to bits.
The fact that my wife and I are very open and vocal and mutually pleasing is why we are so in love.

Well, maybe one day whe will change her mind and you will get your desire fulfilled.
What a troll!
You do this to many people -- take their happiness and apply your distain for life.

If it makes you both happier, I sincerely hope it happens.
Dude, no wonder you're miserable!
Honestly, you have my repeat pitty -- especially after you "opened up" about it when I pegged it.
But you can't stop, you can't stop lambasting and judging everything that is good and decent in this world.

Have a nice day.
Likewise, I sincerely do so, but apparently you can't.
 

McRocket

Banned
Re: Monogamy comes in many values ...

No! I did not say that I "want" to have one.

Well you typed the following about it:

'In fact, I think a "seesaw" of one in against one out, opposing, would be quite erotic and very stimulating.'

Sounded like you wanted it to me.

But I may have misread you.

Though I do find it interesting that you would bring up and discuss something that neither your wife wants to do and you say you don't want but yet refer to the act in whole or in part as 'quite erotic and very stimulating'.

But if I did misread you, I regret it and offer my apologies.


And BTW, I have nothing against the MMF act itself. It doesn't do a thing for me, but as long as all three parties are willing and desire it then why not?

Have a nice day.
 
haha!! i would but we kinda got public profiles atm. So unfortunately I can never tell you guys who I am or what i do for that matter.

But gee crikey! What a thread I have started!

Thanks to everyone's posts. Everyone is shedding some good insight to my question although I think some are taking my situation personally and haven't really fully grasped what i am on about.

A couple guys here mentioned that they get jealous because it's knowing what guys are like: BINGO! That's the only real reason I get worried if my gf is out or away on her own. I've fully embraced it but I'm human and it's normal to get a bit jealous from time to time. However SOMETIMES it's a big turn on for me when we're out and I see it happening. I'll get a kick out of it and we'll go home and talk about it. She occasionally likes it when a girl hits on me. Example last night I was out watching some bands and a girl there tried to kiss me. of course I backed off and came home and told my gf. She was cool. We trust each other. But trust doesn't fix jealousy. That's a different story.

But back to the main point. It's something I feel could be an option in the future and I have defintiely not brought it up to my gf. I wanted to see what you guys thought first. I mean they are swingers out there right? People do it because they want to and are secure enough to. I reckon i could do that at one point in my life.
 

McRocket

Banned
Re: Monogamy comes in many values ...

Dude, no wonder you're miserable!
Honestly, you have my repeat pitty -- especially after you "opened up" about it when I pegged it.

I am tired of You Misrepresenting something I typed in private to the public.
This is what you are referring to, which I typed to you in PM on April 28:

'And I especially think lowly of me who knows the score better then most and still comes on here.'

And if you will go back and read it - and if you longer have it I will send it to you - I was referring to rev sharing, not my life.

I hate rev sharing. I think it is basically pimping. Getting up to 60% of a models income for doing basically nothing. Yes, the models agree to it - but taking that percentage is still morally wrong, IMO.
And my understanding is that is how Freeones makes most of it's money. And I do not agree with that.
But yet I still come on here. Why? Because it seems to be about the best chat forum in terms of quality and number of members, quality and consistency of moderating and a relatively wide variety of subjects.
So despite my moral objections of supporting a site that makes it's money through rev sharing - I still come on here. And that is hypocritical of me. And I do not like that aspect of me.
THAT is what I was referring to. Not my life.
And I was in a bad mood when I typed that. I should have typed something like this:
'And I especially think lowly of that aspect of my personality that still comes on here even though morally I have a problem with the way it makes money.'

I do not and have not felt sorry for myself or am miserable - as you say that I have typed to you.
If I did say I was so miserable - then fine. But I did not and I would appreciate if you would would not misrepresent my words. Especially when I typed them to you in PM.

I come on here to pass the time, to hopefully learn more about myself and the world through interaction and exchanges of opinions with members and to look and download pics of attractive women. When I see something I disagree with, I comment. Just as I want and hope others will do the same to me.

Now if you wish to guess why I type what I type? Fine.
But please in the future do not justify your ideas by typing that I typed things to you that I did not.



But you can't stop, you can't stop lambasting and judging everything that is good and decent in this world.
Mostly I just lambaste you because you often treat others here so condescendingly. And as long as you treat others that way - I will continue to 'pick' on you.

I apologize to those reading this thread for hijacking it. But I have tried over and over to discuss this with Prof Voluptuary in PM's, but he never responds.
And since he keeps mentioning it over and over I felt compelled to type something in regards to it.

I now return you to your regular posting.
 
The last post ... you can have all the rest, PMs, etc... you want ...

I hate rev sharing. I think it is basically pimping. Getting up to 60% of a models income for doing basically nothing. Yes, the models agree to it - but taking that percentage is still morally wrong, IMO.
And my understanding is that is how Freeones makes most of it's money. And I do not agree with that.
And it goes further than that, I know, others know, we all know.
But yet I still come on here. Why? Because it seems to be about the best chat forum in terms of quality and number of members, quality and consistency of moderating and a relatively wide variety of subjects.
So despite my moral objections of supporting a site that makes it's money through rev sharing - I still come on here. And that is hypocritical of me. And I do not like that aspect of me.
And that's not all.
THAT is what I was referring to. Not my life.
Bah! That's just scratching the surface.
Until you "deal with it," and own up to many of your other issues, it will drive your distain for anyone happy here.


And I was in a bad mood when I typed that. I should have typed something like this:
'And I especially think lowly of that aspect of my personality that still comes on here even though morally I have a problem with the way it makes money.'
I do not and have not felt sorry for myself or am miserable - as you say that I have typed to you.
Oh, I never said you felt sorry for yourself -- in fact, I said your insistence to judge others is based on your constant judgment of yourself.
Whatever issues you have -- too much unearned money, too many women lost, too much addiction to porn, etc... -- get over them, for the benefit of all of us.
Seriously, no one can be proud of anything while you are around -- especially not after explanation after re-explanation.
And I stupidly attempt to -- dumb, dumb, dumb -- fuck me for ever caring for you in a PM.

If I did say I was so miserable - then fine. But I did not and I would appreciate if you would would not misrepresent my words. Especially when I typed them to you in PM.
Your nature comes out in the board -- especially when I won't respond to you in a PM after you turn your self-guilt against me -- someone who honestly wanted to help you!

I come on here to pass the time, to hopefully learn more about myself and the world through interaction and exchanges of opinions with members and to look and download pics of attractive women. When I see something I disagree with, I comment. Just as I want and hope others will do the same to me.

Now if you wish to guess why I type what I type? Fine.
But please in the future do not justify your ideas by typing that I typed things to you that I did not.
Again, it's pretty self-evident.

Mostly I just lambaste you because you often treat others here so condescendingly. And as long as you treat others that way - I will continue to 'pick' on you.
When it comes to missile defense, NASA and engineering, yes. I could learn better "tact" -- I agree. But there is also the real issue of "ignorance" in the threads where I could be considered an "expert" -- not merely because I say I am, but because my sound, technical specifics have repeatedly proven you wrong. Despite first and even second best intentions, when people don't want to bother reading up, they are just -- in the end -- ignorant. Now I don't have to say that, and I often don't. But as you have proven for me time and time again, you will reposition yourself just to continue the baiting and non-sense.

Now when it comes to politics, I think someone else taught me a little humility. I've thought long and hard about that, and I will reconsider something about how I post in those threads. I fully admit -- but that was hardly due to yourself. That person knows when to make a point and when to bow out. For that he has earned a great deal of respect for him from myself, and -- even more so -- a lesson to myself that I need to be more considerate. I let me distain for you on missile defense turn into raw, uncontrolled and unwarranted arrogance in other threads -- I have no excuse for that.

Furthermore, to point to yet another member, Fox has his stance and he doesn't move from it. He has integrity and I know where he stands, and can count on certain views. If I want to engage them, then I know what I'm getting into, and likewise. He's not merely argumentative just for the sake of having an argument. If he and I "go at it," we're just honestly differing and we sometimes get heated. But, again, I respect the fact that, and can count on the fact that he has one position. You constantly jump positions and try to demonize anything others say -- adding words as necessary to make a judgment.

As far as your constant trolling on PM's, you know and I know what happens when we have them. You get mad and you just end up sending me more. And when I don't respond, you start responding to every post I've made on the board for the past 6 hours -- instead of just forgetting about it. You are the one that can't keep things to PMs -- and every complaint you've made about my PMs has been prompted by many, many of your PMs and on-board posts. But you can keep grandstanding all you want on that to prove to the world otherwise.

So with that said, I won't bother responding to you in your other posts recently made in this thread, nor any other. I've cut you off before and I'll do it again, and you've shown yourself incapable of dealing with it. Just like others in the past when you've been banned while claiming innocence -- everytime I've been banned, I've admitted I fully deserved it (and would agree through now). You go ahead and respond and lambast and do the other things you feel you "must do." I think I've adequately exposed the fact that you enjoy this and anyone who is stupid enough (myself included) to try to explain things for the 10th time. You'll come back to positions you've already given up, just to start the whole process all over again.

I, for one, would consider why you came back to this board. If anything, I guess it's because I (and people like myself) don't learn just to not respond when you post things like, "if you don't mind me asking" -- which is an invite to utter disregard or bother to even understand someone's view. And when it comes to anything technical, forget it.

At the same time, again, I do have some of my own arrogance in a few threads to re-consider. Not because of any wisdom you offered -- but the wisdom of others. I'm glad the missile defense thread was closed, because I couldn't control myself, especially when I had technical knowledge on my side. And I'm going to start doing that right now, especially since this isn't a technical thread, and I'm just another member.

For the sanity of all.
 
haha!! i would but we kinda got public profiles atm. So unfortunately I can never tell you guys who I am or what i do for that matter.
But gee crikey! What a thread I have started!
My sincerest apologies for all my off-topic comments and other non-sense, which were clear hijacks.
I should have left my "see-saw" comments "as-is" and let them stand on their own, as they were part of my response on-topic.
If anyone feels I should be banned for anything in this thread (or anyone else in other threads that feel the same about those), I am fully open to being banned for it.

Otherwise, I hope what I shared that was on-topic (short of the additional explanations) in this thread (as well as the related "cocks touching") is just a little insight into how I deal with these situations.
And not necessarily "what I want" or anything else that might be read into it.
I guess being with the same woman for almost 14 years does that -- we're very open and we have great communication.

And she likes the fact that I'd not only do anything for her, but find a way to enjoy anything that may bother me at first consideration.
The key is to -- using an overused cliche -- see the glass half full, instead of glass half empty.
I'm sure I could focus on the fact that another guy is screwing my wife, or I'm "not adequate," and be ultra-jealous which is very easy to get into.

Or I could give into the fact that my wife wants to share more with me, instead of keeping it bottled inside, and I can try to find a way to share in her desires.
If anything, the more I please my wife in ways she wants in bed, the more she pleases me.
After all, I'm not aggressive and very passive, and my biggest hurdles in bed is to be more assertive -- something that I don't think I'll ever, fully reach as much as she wants.
 

McRocket

Banned
Re: The last post ... you can have all the rest, PMs, etc... you want ...

At the same time, again, I do have some of my own arrogance in a few threads to re-consider. Not because of any wisdom you offered -- but the wisdom of others.

That's all I wanted (and that you not misrepresent my words) in this regard. Power to whomever helped you see this.

And I will continue to try and be cognizant of my own flaws.

Have a nice day.
 

McRocket

Banned
Re: The last post ... you can have all the rest, PMs, etc... you want ...

Your nature comes out in the board -- especially when I won't respond to you in a PM after you turn your self-guilt against me -- someone who honestly wanted to help you!

And finally (I hope)

You told me to STFU, told (not asked me but told me) on several occasions to leave the board and called me any number of derisive names. Even when my posts were not even directed at you in any way. And that was just in public.

You tried to help me? Bullshit.

You come on here to feel self important and a big shot and I was getting in the way of that so you wanted (and want me) gone. Period.
 
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