The Joke of Nascar..
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Nascar problem they want to be bigger then the nfl.....
No matter what race is being run, in the immortal words of Reese Bobby, "If you ain't first, you're last!"
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Jagger69
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I am no NASCAR fan at all but it's popularity is bigger than ever and it has done a magnificent job of marketing itself. Auto racing in general bores me but I don't begrudge someone who is into it. I know lots of NASCAR fans that are neither "white trash" nor "rednecks".
RA is the finest course in the US and well worth the drive. I would like to see the NASCAR regime contend among some stock M3, RS4 and GT2 cars. What we build in the US is crap and no stock "plastic hotrod" can compete with the aforementioned which actually can be purchased at a dealer. Granted, they're more expensive but they are truly driver's cars.
Yes, I think the best stock cars are German. What you buy off the floor is desined to handle well up to 155. If US drivers were more focused on driving than phone talking or coffee drinking we'd be able to cruise at 120. I sure as shit do not want to be on the same road with a soccer mom going 135 in her Toyoya LX470 (luxury editon xport US) while she talks on Bluetooth and does her eye makeup.
Driving is something to be taken seriously and all kids should be required to take courses like the one offered by Audi and BMW so they know how to handle a car. NASCAR is just a reflection of the type of driving I witness every day. How many cupholders does a NASCAR have?
As fun as it maybe, I personally see no remotely good reason why someone should ever (short of an emergency) need to be able to cruise at 120 miles per hour.
Forgetting the much worse gas mileage and the extra environmental damage if large numbers of drivers were allowed to cruise at 2 miles per minute. It's dangerous and unnecessary. If you need to get somewhere so quickly, we have planes for that kind of thing.
I have owned some fairly high performance vehicles (including a ZR-1 'Vette and a Lingenfelter engined 440 hp 'Vette) and I have my racing license (though I imagine it has expired). And even I think that top speed should only be for the race track.
As far as I am concerned, every street car should come factory equipped with a device that does not allow speeds in excess of 100 m.p.h..
Other then ego, NOTHING good comes from triple digit speeds on public roads.
Why not with a good fuel efficient diesel? Last year when I was on the Bahn we experienced a construction lane closure. Nobody slowed down. Because there were no tailaters, folks just merged and kept the pace, Have you ever been on a US Hwy and had to endure a lane closure? Typically amounts to a two mile slowdown/backup. And how many times did you get cut off if you were trying to maintain a safe distance.
BTW, what's a Lingenfilter? Hardly sounds stock to me. How would it compare to a Renn Sport Porsche?
Why can people drive fast in Europe but not in the US? Because it's nt someting they take for granted.
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What isn't a joke about NASCAR? hahaha 
Clearly I'm not a fan at all. To each is own though. They have a great marketing strategy involved. They keep their fans involved and make the drivers someone you'd want to have a beer with. Good job there in brining in revenue
Clearly I'm not a fan at all. To each is own though. They have a great marketing strategy involved. They keep their fans involved and make the drivers someone you'd want to have a beer with. Good job there in brining in revenue
For my money the only pure auto-sport is shifter kart racing with kids. Just like the Little League World Series, these kids are doing it because they love driving. Maybe some of the parents are a bit like the money-hungry bastards that ruin everything but for the most part its about one kid driving fast and another one saying "I can drive faster than you...and Im gonna prove it."
Kids are pretty great until we screw them up in order for them to become grown ups...same goes with sports.
Kids are pretty great until we screw them up in order for them to become grown ups...same goes with sports.
Though I am in strong agreement that the masses' driving skills could do with some huge improvements, I just see nothing good coming from 120 m.p.h. speed limits. It does not matter how fuel efficient the engine. If used en masse at those speeds then gasoline consumption would go up hugely. Not to mention enviornmental damage.
And people don't need to go that fast except in emergencies.
It maybe fun, but it is not practical.
Lingenfelter Performance Engineering. I had a Corvette I used to own modified by them. They told me mine was one of only two convertibles they had worked on up until that point.
http://www.lingenfelter.com/
NASCAR sucks on tv. It's only good live. And at Bristol Speedway. Other than that, flip the channel and watch something else. F1 is getting that way. I saw the most intesne racing modern F1 has to offer in the past race. The last lap battle for 2nd was intense. I liked it.
All I have to say is, it's harder than you think to drive as fast as possible in a circle.
All I have to say is, it's harder than you think to drive as fast as possible in a circle.
I think I can safely say that the last NASCAR race was yet another perfect example of how NASCAR just makes up rules as it goes along. Or at least somehow interprets them in a way that doesn’t make sense to the teams, drivers, fans, viewers, and everybody else except for them. :1orglaugh
NASCAR on t.v. is great. They keep you updated on everything and show you things that you can't see in the bleachers. I would never attend a race because i wouldn't know enough of whats going on.
But they can't compete with the NFL... not even close :tongue:. And i really like NASCAR and the concept they have of a playoff system. I first got turned to it when they had a big deal about their new playoff system and i saw Kurt Busch win by about 8/9 points.
They do need to set their rules in stone and stop coming up with shit, I didn't watch the race last week and barely seen the highlights but i've seen them do things like this numerous times.
But they can't compete with the NFL... not even close :tongue:. And i really like NASCAR and the concept they have of a playoff system. I first got turned to it when they had a big deal about their new playoff system and i saw Kurt Busch win by about 8/9 points.
They do need to set their rules in stone and stop coming up with shit, I didn't watch the race last week and barely seen the highlights but i've seen them do things like this numerous times.
That's real safe. At least where I live most people slow down a little bit for construction zones. If there are people in the road you might as well be careful, no?
Frankly, I wish they would just show the cars and the racing from all the different camera angles, get comments from the people involved, provide statistics and have the commentators just shut the fuck up.
4 hours of listening to them talk and talk and talk about the same kind of things over and over drives me nuts. But I love the sound of those unmuffled V8 engines, so I do not wish to turn the sound down.
I wish they had a free channel where you could just get the basics and the racetrack sounds and NO commentators.
Every sporting event on television should have an option of turning the commentators off and just putting through the sounds of the game. It could be sort of like how closed captioning is now. :1orglaugh
if NASCAR is such a joke, why are so many open wheel champions taking pay cuts to make the jump into the series? And yes, guys like Montoya, Villeneuve, Franchitti, and Hornish Jr. (although his jump to NASCAR is taking a slower path) are taking substantially lower salaries to drive NASCAR.
I think it has a lot to do with the fact that NASCAR is much less physically demanding on the driver than open wheel racing because of the much slower speeds,less G force and smoother suspension systems.Not to mention that NASCAR has power steering and IRL cars do not.Taking all this into account,a driver can substantially prolong His or Her career by switching to the easier form of racing that NASCAR offers.(Not to suggest that NASCAR does not require skills)--But for the most part,Indy or Formula 1 drivers are much younger drivers and considered an old man at the age of 35,while NASCAR drivers race well into their late 40's and 50's.-Dale Jarrett-50,Ricky Rudd-50,Ward Burton-45,Mark Martin-48,etc.etc.
It's probably because of the notoriety from mindless Americans. It's like the people that created boy bands in the past. They weren't doing it for the integrity of their music. The fact some of them might see themselves on the downside of their careers and know there are more drivers and less competition for spots is probably also if a factor. In other series the fact that there is always some young rising star always gunning fro your position is probably something you have to worry about more. There is also a decent chance more of them can win where in other series you already know half the people have no chance to win a particular race before it even starts.
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