The ban on plastic bags

Facetious

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L.A. County passes sweeping ban on plastic bags
The ordinance, which by 2012 will cover 1,000 stores in unincorporated areas, also will require supermarkets and pharmacies to levy a 10-cent surcharge per paper bag. Proponents see it as a model for California.
November 17, 2010|By Rong-Gong Lin II, Los Angeles Times
The Los Angeles County Board of Supervisors voted Tuesday to ban plastic grocery bags in areas of the county under its jurisdiction, endorsing a broadly worded measure that proponents hope could become a model for California.

The ban, which goes beyond ordinances adopted in Malibu and San Francisco, most directly affects 1.1 million people who live outside the county's incorporated cities. But anyone shopping at stores in such areas would encounter the new rules.



Opponents suggested they might go to court to try to block the ban before the first phase takes effect in July, when 67 large supermarkets and pharmacies must stop providing disposable plastic bags. By January 2012, the ban will cover 1,000 stores throughout the county. The ordinance also seeks to keep shoppers from turning to paper bags as an alternative by requiring stores to levy a 10-cent surcharge per paper bag.


The goal, officials say, is to get people to adopt reusable bags made of cloth or durable plastic that can be wiped clean. An exception is being made for produce bags that keep raw vegetables and meats from being contaminated by other groceries.

"Plastic bags are a pollutant. They pollute the urban landscape. They are what we call in our county urban tumbleweed," said Supervisor Zev Yaroslavsky.

He expressed particular concern about bags entering the ocean via the county's storm drain system, where he said "they end up threatening rare, valuable, marine life in our oceans and degrading one of this country's great environmental and economic resources: the Pacific Coast."
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..So the strong arm of government has now made it law: Retailers must charge a dime for each paper bag that goes out the front door of their businesses. My suggestion is for the retailers to get together with the manufacturers of plastic bags, and produce a plastic shopping bag that's the same (or near the same) size as a tall kitchen garbage bag, that way, the customer will actually have a use for the bag instead of just tossing it in the garbage can like we've all done hundreds, if not thousands of times.
..On the dime per bag issue... The stores can go ahead and charge me a dime per plastic bag in order to recover the cost of those... everybody wins, the bag manufacturers won't have to lay off employees (which is certain to happen under this new law) and the consumer ends up buying their kitchen trash can liners individually at a dime a pop. Done!

..Oh, and great! the gumment is trying to encourage everybody to bring all of their germs from home onto your grocery bag up counter via reusable cloth bags. Do you really think that everybody is going to launder those disgusting things with any regularity?:pukey: Oh flippin joy! I'll now feel inclined to disinfect all of my groceries before I allow them to come into contact with my kitchen countertop. I will too!... got my hydrogen peroxide right here!

Geniuses, aren't they?

Next step is prolly to ban all plastic bags... I can just see the maggots flowing out of everybody's garbage can a day or two before pick up day. retards! /rant
 
Mayhem

Mayhem

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Sorry, but I'm all for this. The amount of plastic pollution (as in free-range garbage) is past horrendus. And plastic bags get used, by default, no matter how small the item or items bought are. I try to keep my plastic consumption to a minimum, and to reuse whatever I can, and it's too much even for me.
 
th3ant1chr1st

th3ant1chr1st

I live in San Francisco, we already have the ban on plastic bags in place. It's a huge inconvenience; the handles always break. However, the best bags in terms of strength and holding capacity are the reusable bags made of some type of cloth.
 
RavinFlamer

RavinFlamer

We only get plastic bags when we go to the groccer but we always use them as garbage bags on our trash cans. I think charging dimes for bags is absurd
 
Krazy4Kobe

Krazy4Kobe

What's next, banning "plastic" condoms?!?

:1orglaugh
 
Ulysses31

Ulysses31

Other than those big recyclable bags if it's possible to manufacture something of recyclable material that closely resembles a carrier bag that would be great and even i it costs a few pence I don't see a problem as carrier bags help fill up landfills. We've used reusable bags before and I don't think germs can live on them out in the open for too long although I could be wrong.
 
StanScratch

StanScratch

My Penis Is Dancing!
Plastic bags are worthless to me. They are too flimsy, they tear way too easily, they dig into your hands, they hold extremely little, they offer absolutely no protection against the elements - and I haven't even gone into environmental hazards.
 
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Sam Fisher

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StanScratch said:
Plastic bags are worthless to me. They are too flimsy, they tear way too easily, they dig into your hands, they hold extremely little, they offer absolutely no protection against the elements - and I haven't even gone into environmental hazards.
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Hazards? Pfft!

 
Facetious

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Mayhem said:
Sorry, but I'm all for this. The amount of plastic pollution (as in free-range garbage) is past horrendus. And plastic bags get used, by default, no matter how small the item or items bought are. I try to keep my plastic consumption to a minimum, and to reuse whatever I can, and it's too much even for me.
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I agree with your stand on the plastic pollution in our environment, but if the shopping bags are made larger, that means that much fewer of them will be distributed, and since we'd be paying for them, we'll be inclined to use them in place of what most of us are already buying, i.e. Glad®/Hefty® kitchen sized trash can liners etc. The way things go with the regular sized plastic grocery bags, we can only use so many of them around the household, therefor, the excess bags get trashed by the majority of people, this is the excess we'd like to do away with.
 
Facetious

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grower_boy said:
I prefer paper bags anyway, so I don't mind if stores stop carrying them. You gotta be down for environmental causes! :cool:
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Plastic bags are an inevitability... try going a week without them... maggots, ants, stench and flies will ensue!
Really, why not charge a dime for reusable plastic bags and get another use out of them? We use them anyway... and don't tell me about reusing paper bags...

R-I-P!! ShAtTeR "courtesy clerk to the front lobby .... bring mop & bucket... again!" :D
 
PlasmaTwa2

PlasmaTwa2

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A certain GOP candidate wouldn't stand for this shit.

Ron Paul 2012.
 
STDiva

STDiva

This is new? We've been getting charged for plastic bags for a while. I bought one of those reusable bags for $2 instead of paying a nickel for every bag. This is a good idea.
 
grower_boy

grower_boy

Facetious said:
Plastic bags are an inevitability... try going a week without them... maggots, ants, stench and flies will ensue!
Really, why not charge a dime for reusable plastic bags and get another use out of them? We use them anyway... and don't tell me about reusing paper bags...

R-I-P!! ShAtTeR "courtesy clerk to the front lobby .... bring mop & bucket... again!" :D
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When I said that, I meant specifically for grocer purposes. Of course plastic bags will always be needed for trash cans. ;)
 
Petra

Petra

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I don't think there's a ban on it, but in the NL you're charged something like 20 cents per bag. They're a heavier plastic bag that you can reuse quite a bit, though I've went ahead and switched to the heavy duty plastic that's almost like a canvas. Lasts loads longer.

You get used to it and learn to bring your own bags/baskets/crates. It's much better for the enviroment imo.
 
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