That "migrant caravan" heading to the US border

[tvstrip]

First off, so many of them, esp the women are chubby and don't exactly look like desperate refugees looking to survive. They definitely aren't starving. When twump accuses them of wanting to get into the US to mooch of the welfare, that image isn't hard to imagine.

I'm thinking this might be a godsend for the twump & the republicans. I find it hard to believe it's a "left wing conspiracy" since it's not hard to see how taking a hard-line stance on this would actually galvanize his supporters. He calls them criminals; well they're openly flaunting they're going to ignore US laws and break into the country. Can't argue with that.

And then there's the matter of their thought process. The prez tells you he's deploying the military to make sure you don't get in, and you're literally a mob of thousands of people on foot. It's not like they won't see you coming. What makes them think the US will suddenly change their mind when they get to the front door?

 

[georges]

Migrant Caravans Are a ‘Disgrace to the Democrat Party,’ Says Trump
https://www.lifezette.com/2018/10/m...trump-on-sunday/?utm_source=right-rail-latest

 

[tvstrip]

I just don't see the need for twump to blame the dems on this one. It's a situation tailor made for him: the left has no real benefit from it. I don't see any mass rallies or senators advocating the US must let them in because that's just a weak position. Honduras isn't in any civil war nor is it facing a "humanitarian crisis" that makes it particularly worse off than any other country in the region. In fact, looking at the countries in Central/South America I could name several that are MUCH worse off than they are.

twump rightfully is capitalizing on the situation to rile up his base, but I don't think he needs to pull the "dem conspiracy card" on this one. If anything I bet the dems are wishing that caravan could have waited until after the midterms.

 

[ChuckFaze]

The Democrats very much ARE responsible for this caravan and the ones before this one. They're the ones who promote "Build bridges, not walls." They're the ones who want and would just love for every fucking illegal to walk right on in and get USA citizenship ... so they can vote Democrat.

Why do you think they don't want to stay in Mexico? Because they can't mooch off of welfare there. Here they can exploit every damn loophole so that they can get every benefit under the sun.

The word gets over to all those countries down there how if and once they make it here, they're set for life ... they have it made in the shade. Make it here and start having anchor babies immediately and then it's impossible to get them out of here.

Just imagine --- If they do make it to the border ... IF the WALL wasn't in place ... just how easy it would be for all those INVASION fuckers to make it across.

More reason why we NEED a WALL! Build that Wall! Build that Wall!

 

[ChuckFaze]

Those Caravan Invaders got a lot of fucking nerve! THEY want to be treated with respect and dignity and yet there they are as a mob trashing and destroying property and openly declaring how they're not going to obey the laws and will not be stopped.

People like that --- we already have plenty of those here. We don't need anymore. They're called CRIMINALS!

 

[tvstrip]

Literally everything you just wrote supports my point: This caravan is a godsend for twump.

I just don't see any upside for the dems on this, hence why it makes no sense to blame it on them.

 

[georges]

NBC Interviews Wrong Caravan Member, Destroys Her Own Asylum Claim
https://www.westernjournal.com/ct/n...&ff_campaign=manualpost&ff_content=2018-10-21

 

[tvstrip]

NBC Interviews Wrong Caravan Member, Destroys Her Own Asylum Claim
https://www.westernjournal.com/ct/n...&ff_campaign=manualpost&ff_content=2018-10-21

Heck, you don't even need to refer to the WJ for this; even the regular mainstream media mentions that finding a job is one of their motivations.

These aren't refugees, that's why pretty much everyone is calling it the migrant caravan and not a refugee caravan.

 

[georges]

Heck, you don't even need to refer to the WJ for this; even the regular mainstream media mentions that finding a job is one of their motivations.

These aren't refugees, that's why pretty much everyone is calling it the migrant caravan and not a refugee caravan.

AP CHANGES HEADLINE AFTER LIBERALS COMPLAIN ABOUT DESCRIBING ILLEGAL CARAVAN AS ‘ARMY OF MIGRANTS’
https://www.dailycaller.com/2018/10/21/ap-changes-headline-migrant-caravan/

 

[Johan]

It's a CARAVAN, hundred of people travelling altogether. This is not the best way to sneak into the country. These people are trying to cross the border LEGALLY

I don't think allow the whole caravan to come in is the right thing to do. But I don't think turning thm all down is either.
As Pirro said "I want to vet them, screen them. “I want to find out who among them is a criminal, who among them is a gang member". But I also want to know who among them is threatened by Juan Orlando Hernández's authoritarian government.

Last December, when protestors took the streets of Tegucigalpa to voice their opinion that the re-election of President Hernandez was due to government organised fraud, 800 of them were arrested and, according to the UN, many of these 800 were brutalised and tortured. And more than 30 died.
So, if among the people in the caravan there are people who were arrested during these protests, i think it would be faire for the US to grant them and their close families refugee status

 

[georges]

It's a CARAVAN, hundred of people travelling altogether. This is not the best way to sneak into the country. These people are trying to cross the border LEGALLY

I don't think allow the whole caravan to come in is the right thing to do. But I don't think turning thm all down is either.
As Pirro said "I want to vet them, screen them. “I want to find out who among them is a criminal, who among them is a gang member". But I also want to know who among them is threatened by Juan Orlando Hernández's authoritarian government.

Last December, when protestors took the streets of Tegucigalpa to voice their opinion that the re-election of President Hernandez was due to government organised fraud, 800 of them were arrested and, according to the UN, many of these 800 were brutalised and tortured. And more than 30 died.
So, if among the people in the caravan there are people who were arrested during these protests, i think it would be faire for the US to grant them and their close families refugee status

No, they aren't entering legally, they have no official papers and no real revenues to justify their presence in the United States, they are going to be welfare cases at the expenses of hard working citizens. No the US doesn't need such people and Trump will send them back by force if needed. Most of these migrants have a hidden past (perhaps a criminal one) and are leftists for the most of them, so totally incompatible with the mentality of the US. US is not a socialist country and doesn't need low income unqualified people. People should be welcomed in the USA according to their qualification skills, working experience and their ability to integrate fast and work hard.

TRAIN OF CENTRAL AMERICAN MIGRANTS SWELLS IN NUMBER DESPITE WARNINGS FROM TRUMP
https://dailycaller.com/2018/10/22/...ush&utm_source=daily_caller&utm_campaign=push

Trump Calls Swelling Migrant Caravan National Emergency
https://www.lifezette.com/2018/10/t...y/?utm_medium=ppt&utm_source=pushnotification

Migrant Caravan Increases to 7,000, Trump Responds by Alerting Border Patrol
https://thepoliticalinsider.com/migrant-caravan-increase/

 

[RJS13]

Trump One Step Closer To Deploying Military To Close All Of Southern Border
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katie...-to-deploying-military-on-the-border-n2530761

 

[georges]

Trump One Step Closer To Deploying Military To Close All Of Southern Border
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katie...-to-deploying-military-on-the-border-n2530761

Yes. Media Mocks Trump For Claiming ‘Unknown Middle Easterners’ In Caravan, Then He’s Proven Right
https://thepoliticalinsider.com/migrant-caravan-middle-easterners/

Video Captures Migrants Calling President Trump the ‘Anti-Christ’
https://thepoliticalinsider.com/migrants-trump-anti-christ/

And Johan, you want that kind of despicable people in the USA???? No, way

 

[Johan]

No, they aren't entering legally, they have no official papers and no real revenues to justify their presence in the United States, they are going to be welfare cases at the expenses of hard working citizens. No the US doesn't need such people and Trump will send them back by force if needed. Most of these migrants have a hidden past (perhaps a criminal one) and are leftists for the most of them, so totally incompatible with the mentality of the US. US is not a socialist country and doesn't need low income unqualified people. People should be welcomed in the USA according to their qualification skills, working experience and their ability to integrate fast and work hard.

Indeed, they aren't entering legally. Actually, they aren't entering at all. The caravan is still hundreds of miles from the border.
Ok, they probably don't have any paper. But it doesn't mean they want to enter illegally. If you want to sneak into any country, joining a caravan isn't a good idea. Thse people are actually walking to the border, hoping they will be allowed to enter the US, they are probably thinking that they are gonna be authoriside t enter the country.
Socialists ? Are you saying that they're political opinion could be a reason not to allow them. Are you telling that political opinions should be among the criterias wether people can or cannoy enter the US ?
Also I don't think thse people are just coming to leech off and be on welfare. They are coming to get a better life for the mbut mostly for their children. They want a job, they are ready to work hard if it's the price to pay for their chldren to live a better life than them.

But all that doesn't change the fact that we can't let people ion just because they want a better life for their children. We should take only those who are in danger in their country and those who could be usefull to our country (for example if it happens that the country need more construction worker, we should take migrants wo are qualified as construction workers).

 

[Straight Shooter]

No, they aren't entering legally, they have no official papers and no real revenues to justify their presence in the United States, they are going to be welfare cases at the expenses of hard working citizens. No the US doesn't need such people and Trump will send them back by force if needed. Most of these migrants have a hidden past (perhaps a criminal one) and are leftists for the most of them, so totally incompatible with the mentality of the US. US is not a socialist country and doesn't need low income unqualified people. People should be welcomed in the USA according to their qualification skills, working experience and their ability to integrate fast and work hard.

TRAIN OF CENTRAL AMERICAN MIGRANTS SWELLS IN NUMBER DESPITE WARNINGS FROM TRUMP
https://dailycaller.com/2018/10/22/...ush&utm_source=daily_caller&utm_campaign=push

Trump Calls Swelling Migrant Caravan National Emergency
https://www.lifezette.com/2018/10/t...y/?utm_medium=ppt&utm_source=pushnotification

Migrant Caravan Increases to 7,000, Trump Responds by Alerting Border Patrol
https://thepoliticalinsider.com/migrant-caravan-increase/

I hope all 5,000 migrants make it into the U.S. Because soon those will be 5,000 Democratic voters. It's about damn time the Democratic Party got their act together in getting well organized and well funded. Big tip of the cap for George Soros who has been crucial on the financial side in terms of getting the funds to these migrants so that they can get here. Well done Democrats. I didn't think you had it in you

 

[ChuckFaze]

Literally everything you just wrote supports my point: This caravan is a godsend for twump.

I just don't see any upside for the dems on this, hence why it makes no sense to blame it on them.

Sure, on the surface it might seem like great ammunition for Trump. Unfortunately history indicates that once however many of them rogue invaders / criminals get here ... no matter what action / plan Trump takes for stopping them, one or more federal judges will ooze out of the sewer and block / overturn it. Then the fuckers will be allowed into the USA. They'll be put in camps somewhere. The invading fuckers will then complain about their treatment and conditions, etc. There will be protests everywhere by all Democrats, Alyssa Milano and the rest of Hollywood.

So it's not just something that Trump is simply going to be allowed to handle his way. I mean, it's not as if suddenly the Democrat politicians are going to give Trump the 2 Thumbs Up Green Light to shut down the border with the military. The Democrats will enjoy the chaos that this caravan's arrival will create.

 

[georges]

I hope all 5,000 migrants make it into the U.S. Because soon those will be 5,000 Democratic voters. It's about damn time the Democratic Party got their act together in getting well organized and well funded. Big tip of the cap for George Soros who has been crucial on the financial side in terms of getting the funds to these migrants so that they can get here. Well done Democrats. I didn't think you had it in you

We already knew that

 

[georges]

Indeed, they aren't entering legally. Actually, they aren't entering at all. The caravan is still hundreds of miles from the border.
Ok, they probably don't have any paper. But it doesn't mean they want to enter illegally. If you want to sneak into any country, joining a caravan isn't a good idea. Thse people are actually walking to the border, hoping they will be allowed to enter the US, they are probably thinking that they are gonna be authoriside t enter the country.
Socialists ? Are you saying that they're political opinion could be a reason not to allow them. Are you telling that political opinions should be among the criterias wether people can or cannoy enter the US ?
Also I don't think thse people are just coming to leech off and be on welfare. They are coming to get a better life for the mbut mostly for their children. They want a job, they are ready to work hard if it's the price to pay for their chldren to live a better life than them.

But all that doesn't change the fact that we can't let people ion just because they want a better life for their children. We should take only those who are in danger in their country and those who could be usefull to our country (for example if it happens that the country need more construction worker, we should take migrants wo are qualified as construction workers).

No country is forced to accept the misery coming from other country and it should always privledge its unemployed and homeless citizens first instead of accepting migrants. You don't know how America works my friend. See in France, Macron welcomed 300000 migrants and who will pay for them so that they can leech off free social security, free healthcare, free social housing and social helps ? Us and these 300000 migrants should have never been given a welcome because our own French homeless people are dieing and starving in the cold. I always prioritize my own fellow countrymen/countrywomen first rather than migrants, always. That is called patriotism. I personnally think that political opinion is a filter which avoids bad people to come in a country. Sweden, Finland and Denmark which were left are starting to go more and more right wing if not far right. Why? Because their failed and ill immigration based on socialism with the joys of multiculturalism has brought them a lot of bad apples whether from Iraq, Afghanistan and other countries and which are responsible for the high rate of crimes and rapes spreading in these countries.Remember the USA is a capitalist country, not a socialist one.

 

[tvstrip]

Sure, on the surface it might seem like great ammunition for Trump. Unfortunately history indicates that once however many of them rogue invaders / criminals get here ... no matter what action / plan Trump takes for stopping them, one or more federal judges will ooze out of the sewer and block / overturn it. Then the fuckers will be allowed into the USA. They'll be put in camps somewhere. The invading fuckers will then complain about their treatment and conditions, etc. There will be protests everywhere by all Democrats, Alyssa Milano and the rest of Hollywood.

So it's not just something that Trump is simply going to be allowed to handle his way. I mean, it's not as if suddenly the Democrat politicians are going to give Trump the 2 Thumbs Up Green Light to shut down the border with the military. The Democrats will enjoy the chaos that this caravan's arrival will create.

I really, really hope he goes ahead with the "Iron Fist" approach and tells anyone going against it to fuck off. I don't think it's rhetoric to say that it's a matter of national security. I mean, literally THOUSANDS of people marching into your country? AFAIK they didn't exactly wait in line at the Mexican border (when the closed off the bridge they just jumped into the river), so there's no indication they intend on going through due process if they reach the US border.
Like you say, twump knows he's screwed if they reach the border as then he'll have to house them until he can deport them since the US HAS to evaluate their "refugee" claim, no matter how asinine it is. And of course it's going to develop into the sob story we've seen so many times. I can see him throwing everything he has against them to ensure they don't make it there.

 

[RJS13]

Trump To Cut Off Aid To Guatemala, Honduras And El Salvador

https://wgntv.com/2018/10/22/trump-...6gTlE13S1VoMwydnwY9T0chIx8AB19-xEjBnpra_gDqCU