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Re: FTV Victoria / Talia Sheppard / Shepard

Who are the bigggest starts going right now? I'd throw out Belladonna, Jenna Haze, Lexi Belle and Breanne Benson for consideration. Who are the biggest solos going in the past few years? Probably Nikki Simms and Melissa Midwest. To say that you have to go fake to make cash is a total fail.
 
Re: FTV Victoria / Talia Sheppard / Shepard

Honestly, why chicks wanna look like each other is beyond me. If your look works, why take money out of your own pocket by changing it? There is no such thing as making a great rack better...

It's never happened...

It never will.
 

JD

Approved Content Owner
Re: FTV Victoria / Talia Sheppard / Shepard

In advance, sorry for the long ass post.

Some things being said here are borderline ignorant. It's kind of sad to see. I don't know why models don't post here? I mean, what could be the reason? So many nice people. This is exactly why most models do not post in public forums. Trolls and negative comments etc. They deal with enough on a day to day basis without having to deal with some armchair quarterback that thinks he's knowledgeable on an industry because he's joined a site or two.

Let's clear up some things up. Sorry if I seem like an asshole but seriously, some of these people think they're professors of porn and they think they understand why a girl does something when in reality, they're grasping at straws. They like to think they know what sells and why it sells and what someone has to do if they get boobs. The things these guys have said couldn't be more inaccurate, so time to set the story straight.

I'll touch on some things once, being that I am close to the fire, I know why things happened so I am not speaking from a place of opinion, I am speaking from a place of fact. My apologies to those that can't or won't digest this. After this I'll just start asking the mods to remove the trolls one by one if they continue trolling.

1) Talia got her boobs because she wanted to. She planned this for four years. She made a youtube video detailing this, words from her mouth. Pretty hard to take that and twist it into what you think happened, but it hasn't stopped some of you. haha Kind of amusing watching how some of you post these long winded replies, it's like you're adding 99% fiction to what's happened and trying to pass it off as fact. It's crazy, but entertaining.

2) She didn't need them, she was perfect before. She WANTED THEM though so got them, what is the problem? If you like what she did, keep being a fan, if you don't, take your appreciation elsewhere. Pretty easy to grasp, no? What do you gain by staying in here and being negative other than painting a rather decent bullseye on your back for mods to ban you from FreeOnes for being a troll? Posting your opinion doesn't make you a troll, being insulting and mean and continually posting negativity does.

Freeones removes trolls.

3) Nobody said you need to get fake boobs to make money. What was said and what is true is that the girls with larger breasts outsell the girls with natural. 9 out of 10 times, this is fact. There are exceptions to the rule, one or two girls, yes.. but on the whole, this is an across the board thing. You might not like it, but there is a reason the vast majority of the girls in the biz get their boobs changed. Most don't like what they had so they make a change. Do some women get bigger boobs as purely a business decision? I'm sure some do this, sure. Do the girl's check's increase after doing this? Yes, substantially.

Saying a girl getting boobs makes her look like everyone else is stupid. Sorry to be blunt. Think about it, she had boobs before, did she look like everyone then? Sure, at least 51% of the population. Oh snap, she has dark hair, I can't tell her apart from other girls with dark hair. See where I'm going with this? Girls still look unique, some are hot, some are not. Some have great boobs, some don't, this could go on and on and on.. I think you get the point.

Those of you thinking you understand sales and the way the biz works, I'm sorry but you don't. I have been in the game 13 years now. i have worked with girls that are a cup straight through GG. If you think the girls with a b cup or c cup sell anywhere near close to girls with D, DD and above this, you'd be delusional to think this. I get you want it to be true, but this doesn't make it true.

Bigger boobs outsell smaller. Always have, always will. I didn't say FAKE. I said bigger. If a girl gets bigger fake, will she outsell herself before? Depends on if she got a good boob job to be blunt.

Not going into numbers because it doesn't matter but to illustrate my point, yesterday was the FIRST day Talia's site was live with big boobed content, that had been given to affiliates to promote her. Meaning, yesterday was the first day where we'd see any change in sales if there was a change in sales. She did more memberships yesterday in ONE day, then she had previously in any one week in her entire career.

Keep telling me she needs to do this or that, or that she's killed her career and I'll kindly point the orderly in your direction with your meds. As I said, regardless of what I or you or he or she thinks, big boobs outsell smaller, every day of the week. We live in a society where bigger is better, not sure why, talk to your econ prof about this if needed.

I am not saying fake or bigger is right, or it's better, or anything for that mater but you need to respect it is a woman's right to chose what she does with her own body. She made her decision, and it doesn't matter what you or me or anyone else thinks about it.

Feel free to keep going on and on bitching, but I'd urge you.. if you're no longer a fan, take yourself to other threads where you are a fan. Being negative and disruptive doesn't add anything to this, you know it and I know it. Sure you might feel like you've been heard but it doesn't change anything other than make a model (and other models reading this thread I might add) more sure that posting in these very forums is not only stupid, it's also the easiest way to ruin their day.

I guess what i am trying to say, try thinking about someone other than yourself for a moment before you post.

My apologies to those that have had to keep reading this bitchfest. I am sorry if I seem like an asshole, but you can't please everyone. My first priority is and always has been and always will be the girl's happiness. If you are a fan, there is a ton of fresh content coming, we have been shooting all week and we're only on day 4/7.

There will always be haters, but haters make you famous... they are elevating her career by hating her. It's so weird, they want to hurt her and yet, they end up helping her.. so thanks!

As for the fans of myself, haha, grow a pair already. (j/k) I'm just a guy with a camera and if you had the chance to be here, you would. Then it'd be me bitching at you instead. We all have an opinion, we all want to be heard. Keep on hatin' though. I must be doing something though if you even know who the fuck I am.. kind of amusing. :D
 
Re: FTV Victoria / Talia Sheppard / Shepard

James would you just give it up, man! Your constant on-and-on-and-on diatribes just provokes people further. Why isn't Talia posting?

Look, we all hope Talia does well, but the fact is that someone who is hardly known in the business rarely cleans up with their own web site and no appearances anywhere else. Vicky Vette did it, but few others. Sandee Westgate does it but she is a big name in the industry. (I would not call Melissa Midwest a big success, even after she turned to porn.) No one knows who Talia is really, even if you think they do.

Anyway, I don't think it is right for you to brand all these guys haters because they are bewildered as to why Talia -- who had really nice breasts to begin with -- got these balloons. Obviously, they are not popular with most of her fans here -- that doesn't mean they won't be popular with others or that she won't make new fans.

I think you have the best of intentions but please man give it a rest. Let the posters to the thread have their say and stop arguing with them.

If people don't like her tits you can't make them!
 
Re: FTV Victoria / Talia Sheppard / Shepard

James would you just give it up, man! Your constant on-and-on-and-on diatribes just provokes people further. Why isn't Talia posting?

Look, we all hope Talia does well, but the fact is that someone who is hardly known in the business rarely cleans up with their own web site and no appearances anywhere else. Vicky Vette did it, but few others. Sandee Westgate does it but she is a big name in the industry. (I would not call Melissa Midwest a big success, even after she turned to porn.) No one knows who Talia is really, even if you think they do.

Anyway, I don't think it is right for you to brand all these guys haters because they are bewildered as to why Talia -- who had really nice breasts to begin with -- got these balloons. Obviously, they are not popular with most of her fans here -- that doesn't mean they won't be popular with others or that she won't make new fans.

I think you have the best of intentions but please man give it a rest. Let the posters to the thread have their say and stop arguing with them.

If people don't like her tits you can't make them!

I'd rep this twice if I could.

C'mon James... you wrote that long winded-ass speech like Talia got the new tits soley to please you, and you can't take take the criticism. I personally am a fan, and I don't like the change. She got to this point of popularity mostly because of her beautiful, natural body, and now that it's not that way anymore, you've got a problem with it her fans displeasure in that??? If your favorite restaurant changed the menu and recipes, would you keep eating there???

I thought not. You wrote it yourself, you can't please everyone, but then you bitch and moan when people are not pleased. She'll no doubt have new fans, but the long time fans are disappointed, and rightfully so... and don't appreciate some big brother, bodyguard type post to tell us what we should like. Quit trying to come off with the douchebag tone, it's not necessary.
 
Re: FTV Victoria / Talia Sheppard / Shepard

I'd rep this twice if I could.

C'mon James... you wrote that long winded-ass speech like Talia got the new tits soley to please you, and you can't take take the criticism. I personally am a fan, and I don't like the change. She got to this point of popularity mostly because of her beautiful, natural body, and now that it's not that way anymore, you've got a problem with it her fans displeasure in that??? If your favorite restaurant changed the menu and recipes, would you keep eating there???

I thought not. She'll no doubt have new fans, but the long time fans are disappointed, and rightfully so... and don't appreciate some big brother, bodyguard type post to tell us what we should like. Quit trying to come off with the douchebag tone, it's not necessary.

Sorry, dude!
But I am not disappointed of her new tits!
I like them very much more than her old tits!
She is the same cute and hot girl like she was before!
She only has now bigger and in my opinion better tits!
 
Re: FTV Victoria / Talia Sheppard / Shepard

Sorry, dude!
But I am not disappointed of her new tits!
I like them very much more than her old tits!
She is the same cute and hot girl like she was before!
She only has now bigger and in my opinion better tits!

And you quoted me because??? :dunno:
 

JD

Approved Content Owner
Re: FTV Victoria / Talia Sheppard / Shepard

James would you just give it up, man! Your constant on-and-on-and-on diatribes just provokes people further. Why isn't Talia posting?

Are you seriously asking me why a model isn't posting in a thread where she's being attacked and bitched at? haha. Wow


Look, we all hope Talia does well, but the fact is that someone who is hardly known in the business rarely cleans up with their own web site and no appearances anywhere else. Vicky Vette did it, but few others. Sandee Westgate does it but she is a big name in the industry. (I would not call Melissa Midwest a big success, even after she turned to porn.) No one knows who Talia is really, even if you think they do.

I'm sorry, but you are starting to lean towards the category I was talking about, Armchair quarterbacks. You think you know what is what and how it works, what a girl needs to do etc, when in reality, you're posting your opinion. That's fine and well, I value your thoughts on this but in the end, your opinion and what is reality is very, very different.

No, nobody really knows her, this is true. She's been around for, let's see, 5, 6, maybe 7 months? The names you're mentioning have been in the game for years upon years so that might lend to why they're known. :)

Her old website with the previous owners didn't sell well. Weird hey? Natural boobs that you all love so much and nobody was buying. Strange. Affiliates didn't promote it very much because the guy that was shooting her before was more interested in trying to get laid then taking decent photos. The pix sucked, she didn't look into it because she was very unenthusiastic about the way her career was bombing at the hands of those she trusted to help her. Her old webbie was and is a good guy, it wasn't him, it was the people behind the poor decisions to have her shoot for every tom dick and harry site known to man. No quicker way to dilute an image. If you've been around and you're trying to further your image, fine.. shoot here or there but if you're new and starting, you don't go all over. If you do this, what value does your own website hold? Can you be shocked when it doesn't do well? (as it didn't I might add)

Very few people promoted her because there was no exclusivity to her, she didn't make much. An example.. If you have to go to Ferrari to buy a Ferrari, it remains a Ferrari. When you can buy one at KMart or Walmart, it's just another car. If Ferrari after many many years isn't selling as it once did, then fine, start branching out to other venues to try and sell the car.

Anyway, I don't think it is right for you to brand all these guys haters because they are bewildered as to why Talia -- who had really nice breasts to begin with -- got these balloons. Obviously, they are not popular with most of her fans here -- that doesn't mean they won't be popular with others or that she won't make new fans.

I think you have the best of intentions but please man give it a rest. Let the posters to the thread have their say and stop arguing with them.

If people don't like her tits you can't make them!

I'm not branding everyone haters, haha, when I say haters it's a blanket statement based upon the negativity. Negativity breads negativity. This is common sense. If you get five people hating, a sixth finds it easier to hate as well. this is forum 101, I am sure you've seen it many times.

I am not here to hate on the haters, I am here to point out how juvenile and selfish many of the people have been in what they have said. I fully agree that she didn't need them, but the point that many are missing is.. SHE WANTED THEM and she got them.. so bitching about what used to be doesn't change anything. Going on and on and insulting her (balloons, for example) isn't going to get her posting in here.

There is so much disrespect for her in this thread it's fucking unreal, and you actually are confused why she's not in here. That boggles my brain.

This is why most girls don't post in forums and this is why most girls will continue to not post in forums. Because some trolls feel their words have no consequence.

Are there haters in this thread? YES. Are those that are confused? Sure, they're not haters, they're just fans posting their opinion and that is normal, appreciated and welcome at that. it's when people become asshole armchair quarterbacks and try and post her career is finished when they don't have a clue of what they speak of that make me smile.

Remember how I posted that yesterday she did more memberships than any previous week of her career? Yeah.. it's 1:30pm where I am and she's already passed yesterday's numbers. She has now had her absolute best day ever in her career, and she still has 10.5 hours left in the day. Keep on posting about how big boobs don't do well or how her career is done. ;)

What has changed in her career? Let's see.. she is exclusive to her website and not being pimped all around the web to any given site. She is more involved with her fans then ever before, doing more cam shows, more videos, more video blogs, more blog postings, more forum posts in her members only forum... the quality of her photos and videos is higher and oh yeah, she got boobs. Speaking of which, Talia will be live tonight on webcam at 11pm EST (8pm PST) inside her website for her members at http://taliashepard.com

I don't care if you like or hate her boobs. You have your opinion and believe it or not, I not only respect it, I want to hear it. I do value what you have to say on the topic.

All I have ever been saying is this. She got them because she wanted them. I respect it was and is her choice to do what she wanted. People whining about it doesn't change that she did it because she wanted them.

Someone out there is loving what she's doing or she wouldn't be selling. I'm going to tell Talia she shattered her previous record already and get ready to shoot some more photos. :)

Remember, tonight at http://taliashepard.com she is LIVE on webcam. Stop by if you like and talk to her, ask her your questions yourself if you feel the need. She is easily one of the most genuine and sweetest girls I have had the pleasure of shooting. If you stop by, you will quickly become a fan and you'll understand why her fans usually stay her fans.
 

JD

Approved Content Owner
Re: FTV Victoria / Talia Sheppard / Shepard

Icewater.. sorry for late reply, you'd posted when I was typing =)

I think you're missing what i am saying here, so perhaps others are as well.

I completely understand people being unhappy with the changes. I am not saying they need to stfu or anything of the sort. I am saying the girl made a choice for HER, not for me, not for money, not for anything other than her. She herself has said this in a youtube video. People going on and on about it doesn't change the fact that she did it.

I am not her bodyguard but at the same time, I am the guy that represents all the Bella ladies in the forum because they will not post in here because of negative attitudes, trolls etc. Same as a great deal of models. I will correct people that post untrue things, this won't change, sorry if that rubs you the wrong way.

At the end of the day, my loyalty is to Talia, not to random guys in a forum that are unhappy because their fav restaurant changed their menu. :)

She is thrilled, happy, more confident and secure then at any point in her career and she comes into forums to read hatred, negativity, assholes calling her names and making really shitty comments.. and people wonder why I challenge the haters? People wonder why girls don't post in forums?

I wish we lived in a different world man, I truly do.. but we don't. People will always speak their mind and that's cool.. it's to be expected. My job is to keep doing what I am doing. Like me or hate me, doesn't much matter to me. I am doing my job and the proof is in Talia's confidence, her smile, and ultimately, her paychecks.

She will lose fans, she will gain fans, just another day at the office. Have a great day man.
 
Re: FTV Victoria / Talia Sheppard / Shepard

Believe me, I get that she wanted to do this and that she is happy,but you don't seem to understand that what you deem negativity are simply opinions, and that the ones you don't agree with are still warranted. Those are calling her names should be (if not already) banned, but why offer up these 'challenges' on her behalf. It make you seem like her big brother, jumping up at her every sigh.

Honestly, you don't have to answer everybodys comment, and I do realize that a lot of them are of the same nature, but even you must get the fact that Talia is selling her look, and that once that look has changed, people who enjoyed her service are going to have something to say. It really has nothing to do with how she feels about her look or herself, it's all about the consumer driven business. You're right, in the right now she's enjoying the success of a new thing, my own personal hope is that she did this for herself and not for sales, because that is how it comes off.

I do wish her LASTING success, but she had to know this was coming. Change is not always an agreeable thing.
 
Re: FTV Victoria / Talia Sheppard / Shepard

I'm in the hate the fake boobs crowd. Such a shame.

Now, the point if posting that here is not to be hurtful to Talia, but to try to get through to the rest of these models that we don't all love these ridiculous implants. Maybe Talia wanted them for a long time. Fine, good for her. The truth of the matter is that this industry places a tremendous amount of pressure on young women to go fake and at the heart of it is serious lobbying from plastic surgeons. This always erupts in a giant debate because those that love the stretched out skin and lopsided nipples on giant, immobile, rock hard boobs are the minority.

And seriously, this is not just a forum to come and kiss the models ass. We get to have our say and while some here like the new boobs, several of us just do not. And we don't give a shit whether or not her photographer/ internet defender agrees.

The big porn producers have decided implants are in so that is what we get. Girls like Talia are influenced by their peers. I'm afraid this is only going to get worse. Adding to the uproar is that models used to wait to do thus until they had been around awhile to spur a comeback and get new business. Not so much anymore. Eg Talia & Amia Miley.
 
Re: FTV Victoria / Talia Sheppard / Shepard

she was beautiful then and is gorgeous now. i would never take the time out of my day to complain about someone elses choice on a free board ha ha haaaaa
 
Re: FTV Victoria / Talia Sheppard / Shepard

are you seriously asking me why a model isn't posting in a thread where she's being attacked and bitched at? Haha. Wow




i'm sorry, but you are starting to lean towards the category i was talking about, armchair quarterbacks. You think you know what is what and how it works, what a girl needs to do etc, when in reality, you're posting your opinion. That's fine and well, i value your thoughts on this but in the end, your opinion and what is reality is very, very different.

No, nobody really knows her, this is true. She's been around for, let's see, 5, 6, maybe 7 months? The names you're mentioning have been in the game for years upon years so that might lend to why they're known. :)

her old website with the previous owners didn't sell well. Weird hey? Natural boobs that you all love so much and nobody was buying. Strange. Affiliates didn't promote it very much because the guy that was shooting her before was more interested in trying to get laid then taking decent photos. The pix sucked, she didn't look into it because she was very unenthusiastic about the way her career was bombing at the hands of those she trusted to help her. Her old webbie was and is a good guy, it wasn't him, it was the people behind the poor decisions to have her shoot for every tom dick and harry site known to man. No quicker way to dilute an image. If you've been around and you're trying to further your image, fine.. Shoot here or there but if you're new and starting, you don't go all over. If you do this, what value does your own website hold? Can you be shocked when it doesn't do well? (as it didn't i might add)

very few people promoted her because there was no exclusivity to her, she didn't make much. An example.. If you have to go to ferrari to buy a ferrari, it remains a ferrari. When you can buy one at kmart or walmart, it's just another car. If ferrari after many many years isn't selling as it once did, then fine, start branching out to other venues to try and sell the car.



I'm not branding everyone haters, haha, when i say haters it's a blanket statement based upon the negativity. Negativity breads negativity. This is common sense. If you get five people hating, a sixth finds it easier to hate as well. This is forum 101, i am sure you've seen it many times.

I am not here to hate on the haters, i am here to point out how juvenile and selfish many of the people have been in what they have said. I fully agree that she didn't need them, but the point that many are missing is.. She wanted them and she got them.. So bitching about what used to be doesn't change anything. Going on and on and insulting her (balloons, for example) isn't going to get her posting in here.

There is so much disrespect for her in this thread it's fucking unreal, and you actually are confused why she's not in here. That boggles my brain.

This is why most girls don't post in forums and this is why most girls will continue to not post in forums. Because some trolls feel their words have no consequence.

Are there haters in this thread? yes. Are those that are confused? Sure, they're not haters, they're just fans posting their opinion and that is normal, appreciated and welcome at that. It's when people become asshole armchair quarterbacks and try and post her career is finished when they don't have a clue of what they speak of that make me smile.

Remember how i posted that yesterday she did more memberships than any previous week of her career? Yeah.. It's 1:30pm where i am and she's already passed yesterday's numbers. She has now had her absolute best day ever in her career, and she still has 10.5 hours left in the day. Keep on posting about how big boobs don't do well or how her career is done. ;)

what has changed in her career? Let's see.. She is exclusive to her website and not being pimped all around the web to any given site. She is more involved with her fans then ever before, doing more cam shows, more videos, more video blogs, more blog postings, more forum posts in her members only forum... The quality of her photos and videos is higher and oh yeah, she got boobs. Speaking of which, talia will be live tonight on webcam at 11pm est (8pm pst) inside her website for her members at http://taliashepard.com

i don't care if you like or hate her boobs. You have your opinion and believe it or not, i not only respect it, i want to hear it. I do value what you have to say on the topic.

All i have ever been saying is this. She got them because she wanted them. I respect it was and is her choice to do what she wanted. People whining about it doesn't change that she did it because she wanted them.

Someone out there is loving what she's doing or she wouldn't be selling. I'm going to tell talia she shattered her previous record already and get ready to shoot some more photos. :)

remember, tonight at http://taliashepard.com she is live on webcam. Stop by if you like and talk to her, ask her your questions yourself if you feel the need. She is easily one of the most genuine and sweetest girls i have had the pleasure of shooting. If you stop by, you will quickly become a fan and you'll understand why her fans usually stay her fans.

stfu!!!!
 

BellaBellini

Official Checked Star Member
Re: FTV Victoria / Talia Sheppard / Shepard

I saw a few threads about Talia pop up on here and checked them out because I like looking at her pics because she is a beautiful girl. It is unfortunate that there is so much negativity in her thread. That is the reason she isn't here posting.

Honestly, it is exhausting to argue with people on message boards because there are more important things to do in life. I try and post on message boards and have to deal with similar situations sometimes and I do respond because I'm my own webmaster.

But it isn't like Talia is hiding under a rock. I see her responding to her fans on my twitter feed and and she seems very happy. I also do cam shows on the Babe Chat network like Talia and I know the guys on there wouldn't be throwing negative comments at her. Obviously everyone their own preference and there is nothing wrong with that. Don't look at her photos if you don't like her boobs now. It is Talia's body and her choice and we should respect that.

Also in James' defence, he is reacting strongly because he knows Talia. Unfortunately a lot of webmasters don't talk about models in a very respectful way, or treat them with respect. James might be feeding the trolls by replying all the time. But at least you can see he actually cares about Talia and that means she can enjoy her job. I'm sure none of you want to see another miserable, disillusioned model disappear.

I'd rather see a webmaster standing up for a model and defending her instead of calling her a stupid slut like I see ALL the time.

But I agree with James, back to the hot pics!
 
Re: FTV Victoria / Talia Sheppard / Shepard

It's fun that everyone thinks porn is a buddy-buddy club. LoL.

I enjoyed both Talia and Amia Miley when they shot for FTV Girls. It seems that once they got past that "amateur" stage (and I use that loosely) that their work for me went down hill because I like glamour stuff more than out and out lick-fuck-suck porn.

Porn is an image based/how well can I promote myself without losing my own self-respect business. It's great that she is more confident and it's a shame that someone didn't reinforce her natural beauty before her enhancement. She's still going to be included on my website because she's still a beautiful woman nonetheless.

"The crowd is fickle. Win the crowd." Proximo - Gladiator.

Now back to the pictures!
 
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