BlkHawk
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Thank you for this post, you highlighted exactly what concerns me about this ruling. Plus you did it better in fewer words! :hatsoff:
Supreme Court Rules Corporations Have Religous Rights!
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Thank you for this post, you highlighted exactly what concerns me about this ruling. Plus you did it better in fewer words! :hatsoff:
Rey C.
Racing is life... anything else is just waiting.
Yes, I fully agree with that. Let me better describe why I take such issue with this. Obama (or some group on the far left) decided to mandate that insurance companies had to provide FDA approved birth control with no copay, at no cost, to the women who wanted it. That's my reading of this convoluted, confusing law, anyway. But I would say that the overwhelming majority of women who take birth control pills (and 100% of those who take morning after pills) do so for the intended purpose of the drugs: to prevent unwanted births. Some small percentage may take birth control pills (not morning after pills, which were the primary focus of this decision) because of gynecological problems. But the majority simply have this as a preferred method of birth control... preferred = preference, not medical, life-saving necessity.
But, why are high blood pressure drugs, diabetic/high-low blood sugar drugs and cancer drugs not also mandated to be provided without a copay??? I mean, we're talking about drugs that are 100% necessary for the preservation of a person's life. It's not an option, a choice or a preference. You either take them or you eventually get sick and die.
Do you see what I'm driving at here? Do you understand why I find this to be three shades of ridiculous? Again and again, we end up with one side or the other playing politically correct, gender politics with our money and our lives. And this constant whining by the far left, that without no cost birth control there is a "war on women", has completely played out with me. I have truly heard enough of that whiny bullshit. The drugs are still available. No one has banned or outlawed anything at the Federal level. And even with this decision, the drugs will still be covered by insurance (or the government), though maybe not completely at no cost in some very limited cases. But until someone can give me a clear, rational explanation of the logic behind mandating drugs of preference to be covered at no cost, while drugs that provide day-to-day life continue to cost hundreds of dollars per month (or whatever the deductible or copay may be), I'm calling "rat!" on this deal. I just want an explanation (logical and rational) of the reasoning behind these complaints and (false) claims. But I cannot imagine that anyone can give that to me. It makes no sense to me. Neither does the expansion of Medicaid at the expense of Medicare - the same holds true for Social Security vs. SSI. That seems to be taking from those who have paid in, in order to give more to those who have not paid in, or have (for whatever reason) paid in very little. I place no blame on people who are truly disabled or disadvantaged. But come on, we all know people who are "make believe" disabled. That's not all people on disability, but it is a significant and growing percentage. People once got on and then got back off disability (in the 1970's, for instance) - it was more short term/temporary in nature. Now they stay on it until the grave... it's their "right" - it has become another entitlement.
They just find a slick lawyer, who sends them to a slick doctor, and for a 33% cut, all of a sudden, they get these lazy slobs on disability. I can think of three guys right now, my age and younger, who are drawing full benefits because of bad knees. Hell, my knees are a lot worse than theirs and I've been logging 70-80 hour weeks for the past couple of months! Where does it stop???!!! When does it stop???!!! If 5 are putting something in the pot, you cannot (for very long) have 10 taking from the pot. Obama may be very good at understanding the law. But I don't think he (or Pelosi) is very good at basic math or Econ 101.I also agree with this. I strongly object to the favoritism shown to publicly traded corporations under this SCOTUS and this and other administrations. There really is no legal protection for a sole proprietorship. A Sub-S or an LLC is typically a means for a closely held company to offer the small number of owners some protection. But a publicly traded C should not be seen as a "person". But in light of the BNP Paribas, Bank of America, JP Morgan Chase, Banco Santander, Barclays, Wells Fargo/Wachovia, Credit Suisse, Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley, etc. cases involving fraud, cartel money laundering, tax evasion and market manipulation... as much as Obama and Holder like to play to the populist crowd, they have clearly given favorite treatment to these huge C corporate interests... no different than Romney or anyone else on the big business/U.S. Chamber of Commerce loving right would have done. Who has gone to jail? Who? Apart from maybe a janitor who happened to be walking by the C suite when this foul shit was being done, who has Obama/Holder sent to jail for these blatant criminal acts??? But if you or I had done anything even approaching money laundering or tax evasion, I promise you, we'd be spending time in Club Fed right now.
Man, I take a few days off and do I get wound up. I need to switch to decaf, I guess.
Will E Worm
Conspiracy...
Because those are medical problems. You don't get hem by voluntarily "sleeping" around.
Murder is wrong, and so is expecting others to pay for you "sleeping" around.
Watch the video in comment two.
xfire
New Twitter/X @cxffreeman
Eating cupcakes all day and becoming an alcoholic, nicotine addicted, fat slob are all the sort of lifestyle choices that are the main contributors to high blood pressure, diabetes, and cancer, apparently you needed that spelled out for you.
This entire corporations are people too agenda is a giant abomination. Hopefully Scalia develops aggressive advanced cancer and dies very soon so this ship can be righted. Corrupt, immoral, and just flat wrong.
bobjustbob
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Interesting. Enjoy your lifestyle eating cake and supplement the cost of the reduced fat snacks. Continue to smoke but have the cost of smokeless cigarettes covered in a medical plan. Sounds the same as birth control to me.
Will E Worm
Conspiracy...
That is not even close to how it happens all the time.
Regardless, those are real medical conditions.
It didn't even need to get this far.
If the Hobby Lobby owners would've said they opposed these contraceptives because of their deeply held muslim beliefs, there wouldn't have been an issue.
Be savvy about it.
If the Hobby Lobby owners would've said they opposed these contraceptives because of their deeply held muslim beliefs, there wouldn't have been an issue.
Be savvy about it.
Bitches who want to have someone else pay their whoring should grow up to adults and start to take responsibility of their own actions and stop trying to push their own responsibilities to someone else. If they want to get get paid from their whoring, they should enter porn to do some real work (is porn a real work?) for their money.
Noone bother mentioning negative effects of birth control. There should be life threatening danger or official doctor's order for these pills to ever be included in insurance policies.
Noone bother mentioning negative effects of birth control. There should be life threatening danger or official doctor's order for these pills to ever be included in insurance policies.
I'm sure that statement was taken serious by the people you directed it at because you presented it in such and adult and mature manner.
Ace Boobtoucher
Founder and Captain of the Douchepatrol
Welcome to present day politics you whip up whatever side you represent with non issues that elicit an emotional response and use it to develop an us vrs them mentality.
This should always be about what is best for America and her people nothing more nothing less.
Corporate/ personal greed with be the death of everything we hold dear.
Rey C.
Racing is life... anything else is just waiting.
Since I can't rep anyone anymore, I'm just reposting/quoting for TRUTH!!! :hatsoff:
xfire
New Twitter/X @cxffreeman
Yet they're ok with sourcing over 90% of their inventory from China, land of forced abortions and a myriad of other human rights violations. Hey, that's fine with me, I don't buy Chinese shit ( http://americansworking.com/ ), but doing business with the morally corrupt Chinese government isn't consistent with their values, is it?
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