Will E Worm
Conspiracy...
You're wrong. We don't all worship God.
Christians worship God. (Not Catholics)
Jews and Muslim don't.
Subway could put more fish on thier menu for Christians. I'm not sure what else.
I would like a catfish sub.
Subway Have Removed Ham and Bacon From Their Menus to Appease Muslims!
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You're wrong. We don't all worship God.
Christians worship God. (Not Catholics)
Jews and Muslim don't.
Subway could put more fish on thier menu for Christians. I'm not sure what else.
I would like a catfish sub.
Deepcover
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Christians worship Jesus more then God. Catholics worship God, Virgin Mary and The Son of God aka Jesus
Little Red Wagon Repairman
MFOMBSoPGA
Maybe the Muslims should follow the example of the Hindus as I don't see them Raising Hell in front of Arby's. Go along to get along, motherfuckers.
BlkHawk
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I would like a catfish sub.
I'll agree to disagree on religion, as to the catfish sub, I do love a good catfish po' boy. Let's be honest though a chain like Subway would just royally screw something like that up. Catfish, or oyster po' boys should be left to the mom and pop style Cajun restaurants.
SabrinaDeep
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And then i'm done: is it true that bacon/pork eaters, clients of Subway, in certain areas are penalized by the decision of Subway to appease to a certain religious group, yes or not?
SabrinaDeep
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I don't understand why some of you keep making a matter of Muslims vs Christians. I make it a matter of a religion (in this case the Islam) pretending and succeeding in influencing and changing the habits and culture of people based on religious beliefs. If that religion would have been the Christian one, i would have been equally pissed. It's like for any other fucking minority in this planet who whine all the fucking time and pretend to impose their vision to the majority in the name of alleged discrimination or of facts which happened centuries ago. I'd bet you what you want that if one day Subway should decide to reverse their decision and to stop selling halal there will be a pandemonium, both in front of Subway restaurants and on the media.
I believe the gravity of this thread has sucked it into the politics religion section now
PS, I ate Chinese today. It was AMAZING!
PS, I ate Chinese today. It was AMAZING!
JaanaRuutu
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SUBWAY IS NOT A RIGHT,
YOU DO NOT HAVE A RIGHT TO EAT AT SUBWAY.
THEY ARE A PRIVATELY-RAN, MULTINATIONAL BUSINESS, NOT A GOVERNMENT-RUN BUSINESS.
Nobody gets "penalized"! because it's A FUCKING SANDWICH STORE.
Would you rather that the government of the UK started mandating that private businesses MUST sell pork products? Because that's a hell of a lot scarier of a slippery slope! I'm going to get shit for calling a spade a spade on this one, but you're being xenophobic and you're using Subway's decision as a way to display your own prejudices, and it's 10000% not okay. Your issue isn't with pork, it's your fear of a religion you don't understand. Not cool, period.
the mistake is, they should divide in that case, and let people know for the ingredients, and not remove. but anyways it's their choice. i wonder why muslims are more radical in western countries than here? by the way sabrina you would look awesome in a burka, lol, maybe make hijab porn lolol
larss
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In order to cater for the majority of their clientele, it is true that a small number of people that live in the area cannot get pig products in the Subway sandwiches from their local store. I would hardly call this being penalised and I would certainly not call it appeasement.
"You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to JaanaRuutu again."
Divide what?the mistake is, they should divide in that case, and let people know for the ingredients, and not remove. but anyways it's their choice. i wonder why muslims are more radical in western countries than here? by the way sabrina you would look awesome in a burka, lol, maybe make hijab porn lolol
Check the link to the Subway site that I gave above. They let people know the ingredients - the Halal stores are clearly marked. To be a Halal shop there cannot be pig products on the premises which means that they can either be Halal OR serve bacon and ham but they cannot do both.
Ace Bandage
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SabrinaDeep
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There you go. Whenever you cannot sustain a thesis with a bit of grain of salt or you don't understand what others are talking about, you start insulting them. Talking about prejudices and tolerance...
About your post what to say...i started laughing at "SUBWAY IS NOT A RIGHT", first because of you screaming, which for someone pretending to teach tolerance sound pretty hypocritical, and second because once again you have brought into the discussion something that has nothing to do with it and that nobody has ever claimed.
and what about
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I have never said that my issue is with pork. I have said that my issue is with the imposition of certain cultural behaviors in the society due to religious beliefs. If all the private food companies will follow Subway (since you say that their decision has been purely dictated by the market, i don't see why all the other companies wouldn't want to make more money too), one day, in those areas with majority of Muslims there will be a minority who will have to migrate elsewhere to find their fav food and i don't find this acceptable in a multicultural society.
Beside, i have all the rights to dislike a particular religion without being xenophobic, unless you are suggesting that the billions of Muslims living this world are xenophobic for disliking any other religion, but Islam. I don't have to feel sympathy for a religion and its doctrine, if i don't: it's called free will. I have also said (and of course you have ignored it) for three times, that if the religion in question was the Christian one or any other one, for what i'm concerned, i would be equally pissed; so do yourself a favor and read things carefully and try to understand them before posting things that make you look like a troll. I don't like it when any religion affects the life of everybody: religion should stay confined at most in your own house and in cult sights and it should not interfere with the public life of a single citizen who does not embrace that religion. Now, you have all the rights to disagree with the above, even in a heated way, but it would be nice if you could contribute to the discussion with some pertinent arguments instead of talking off topic and simply attacking people screaming and calling them names.
Let me conclude informing you that i am Canadian of Ukrainian descent, i live in Spain, i am married to an Italian of both Jewish and German descent, i am bisexual, i have 3 gay Friends (yes, uppercase), i happily fuck a lot of black people, i employ, among others, 2 very skilled and intelligent Muslim workers, i own 2 dogs and 9 cats, i adore Lebanese food (guess what? It's halal and it does not contemplate pork) and i host tens of people of different nationalities, social extraction, sexual taste and religions in my house every year treating them all equally (like Kings and Queens, really) with respect and without prejudices: it's even all documented and available on the Net, in case you were tempted to think i've just made it up. You Might want to look for xenophobia elsewhere, girl.
SabrinaDeep
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it's a senceless move from subway, don't know if they are declared about this, but don't you think there might be problems or any issues with their sandwiches and they play the religious card? otherwise which company would harm herself in a brutal capitalist system like it is nowadays? honestly i don't know what to say about this, but i am sure it's not just subway who makes sandwiches, so i am sure there nothing's to worry about, any company has the right to do what they think, either it's on their good or bad. so, I as a muslim, am against the removing of the subway sandwiches with pig meat, if this helps you make your pain go less?
Apart from all that business sense we've been discussing.
Only 200 out of 1500 stores have opted to remove pork and serve halal meats.
I suspect there in places with a similar set up as in my town where there are 2 stores in the town centre literally less than 5 minutes walk apart and one is Halal and the other isn't. In Bradford, which is predominantly Muslim, there are 3 Subway stores right in the city centre all within walking distance of each other two are Halal and one isn't.
At the end of the day it comes down to demand and appealing to the widest possible customer base, in areas such as Bradford it makes perfect sense to supply Halal meats as there is such a large Muslim population, in fact it is the largest demographic in the area, but it doesn't mean it's the only choice.
I suspect there in places with a similar set up as in my town where there are 2 stores in the town centre literally less than 5 minutes walk apart and one is Halal and the other isn't. In Bradford, which is predominantly Muslim, there are 3 Subway stores right in the city centre all within walking distance of each other two are Halal and one isn't.
At the end of the day it comes down to demand and appealing to the widest possible customer base, in areas such as Bradford it makes perfect sense to supply Halal meats as there is such a large Muslim population, in fact it is the largest demographic in the area, but it doesn't mean it's the only choice.
Ace Bandage
The one and only.
The horse has already died. Let's not beat him any more...
Philbert
Banned
Do they serve Horsemeat in Halal Subways?
Sabrina seems to actually think about what she's discussing, very refreshing. Consider a few points...Subway did or didn't publish any explanation for removing standard product from it's FRANCHISE restaurants?
Muslims live in a sea of Jews and Christians , and Buddhists...by rights they should create their own shops for Halal...how many Subways in large Jewish pop areas remove pork and other nonKosher foods? Zero.
Like Halal, Kosher demands separate sinks, silverware and plates, etc; no meat may touch any area where dairy is or has been.
In the greater arena of world politics, Christians are not crusading and slaughtering Jews and Muslims, like 100s of years ago; Jews aren't slaughtering Christians or Muslims (like they never did for their entire history); Muslims are ripping babies, Moms, and whole families in their countries into liquefied corpses with marketplace bombings, airliner attacks, kidnapping and slaughter videos, etc; and they will gladly come to your home and kill you and yours ; all the wonderful benefits of sharing the planet with an active religion that promotes murder for converting to any other religion, women chatting with non-related males; punishes any free speech they don't like with Fatwas (kill you when they find you thing), and they like coming into your house and killing your Mom and little sister.
No chilling effect there, I guess? No "forcing" their religion on others with very real violence as a consequence of NOT accepting Islam as supreme?
When a franchise chain removes product specifically unfavored by one violent religion the whole concept of a franchise is negated...knowing what to expect in each store. Removing an entire population from your customer base is NOT how the Franchise concept works. (Lovers of Ham, etc.)There are many more McDonalds than subway, do they refuse to sell Breakfast sammiches with ham in those areas? No, I guess not.
I have a car...I may be driving in an area and want lunch...I want a ham sammich...what? This subway caters to Muslims and I can't have a Ham ' n ' Cheese footlong? No Italian Cold Cut ?WTF?
The FOs base seems to delight in the nastiest verbal assault on all Christians and often throw Jews in there as well...yet FOs would no more allow the Bomb Turban cartoon of Mohammed posted than they would endorse AIDS for weight loss...BOOM! goes the office, and starting your car to go home takes on a whole new meaning.
There IS a very big problem with every slip and slide down that slope into Muslim appeasement.
Sabrina seems to actually think about what she's discussing, very refreshing. Consider a few points...Subway did or didn't publish any explanation for removing standard product from it's FRANCHISE restaurants?
Muslims live in a sea of Jews and Christians , and Buddhists...by rights they should create their own shops for Halal...how many Subways in large Jewish pop areas remove pork and other nonKosher foods? Zero.
Like Halal, Kosher demands separate sinks, silverware and plates, etc; no meat may touch any area where dairy is or has been.
In the greater arena of world politics, Christians are not crusading and slaughtering Jews and Muslims, like 100s of years ago; Jews aren't slaughtering Christians or Muslims (like they never did for their entire history); Muslims are ripping babies, Moms, and whole families in their countries into liquefied corpses with marketplace bombings, airliner attacks, kidnapping and slaughter videos, etc; and they will gladly come to your home and kill you and yours ; all the wonderful benefits of sharing the planet with an active religion that promotes murder for converting to any other religion, women chatting with non-related males; punishes any free speech they don't like with Fatwas (kill you when they find you thing), and they like coming into your house and killing your Mom and little sister.
No chilling effect there, I guess? No "forcing" their religion on others with very real violence as a consequence of NOT accepting Islam as supreme?
When a franchise chain removes product specifically unfavored by one violent religion the whole concept of a franchise is negated...knowing what to expect in each store. Removing an entire population from your customer base is NOT how the Franchise concept works. (Lovers of Ham, etc.)There are many more McDonalds than subway, do they refuse to sell Breakfast sammiches with ham in those areas? No, I guess not.
I have a car...I may be driving in an area and want lunch...I want a ham sammich...what? This subway caters to Muslims and I can't have a Ham ' n ' Cheese footlong? No Italian Cold Cut ?WTF?
The FOs base seems to delight in the nastiest verbal assault on all Christians and often throw Jews in there as well...yet FOs would no more allow the Bomb Turban cartoon of Mohammed posted than they would endorse AIDS for weight loss...BOOM! goes the office, and starting your car to go home takes on a whole new meaning.
There IS a very big problem with every slip and slide down that slope into Muslim appeasement.
Philbert
Banned
I didn't state one thing correctly...Halal differs from Kosher in the meat/dairy prohibition thing, and shellfish/shrimp prohibition.
So much trouble; personally I love Lobster, Pizza, any and all meat sammiches w/cheese and stuff, plus any food you can put pepper on.
God gave us stuff to eat, and dietary laws came from crazy geezers who had way too many visions.
So much trouble; personally I love Lobster, Pizza, any and all meat sammiches w/cheese and stuff, plus any food you can put pepper on.
God gave us stuff to eat, and dietary laws came from crazy geezers who had way too many visions.