Star Wars reboot, anyone?

[darkwarrior3007]

Some of you realize that this isn't actually happening, right?

 

[mrtrebus]

Some of you realize that this isn't actually happening, right?

yes. yes we do. . .

 

[Neutron66]

All the books in the Star Wars Universe are Canon, completely authorized by Lucas.

Um...I'm pretty sure none of the books are canon. They're part of the "expanded universe."

As far as I know, the only things that are canon are the 7 films (Clone Wars being the 7th) and The Force Unleashed video game, and even that is only canon depending on what choice you make at the end. If you kill Vader and join the Emperor then it's not canon. If you spare Vader and save Leia, then it's canon.

I know one of the fansites came up with a way of classifying everything into degrees of canon but none of that is official or endorsed by Lucas.

 

[LukeEl]

See the way I look at these reboots for the original Star Wars films was the whole Marvel "Ultimate" universe comics that were around, they took The Avengers, Spiderman, X-Men basically the whole Marvel Universe and repackaged it like a remake from Hollywood, true it was a alright concept but to be honest it was a waste of time and resources...he should do a tv series like they were planning 10 yrs ago...take the Tales Of Star Wars concept and have each episode focus on different characters and timelines in the Star Wars universe.

 

[JayJohn85]

Yoda rules nuff said

 

[darkwarrior3007]

Um...I'm pretty sure none of the books are canon. They're part of the "expanded universe."

As far as I know, the only things that are canon are the 7 films (Clone Wars being the 7th) and The Force Unleashed video game, and even that is only canon depending on what choice you make at the end. If you kill Vader and join the Emperor then it's not canon. If you spare Vader and save Leia, then it's canon.

I know one of the fansites came up with a way of classifying everything into degrees of canon but none of that is official or endorsed by Lucas.

From what I've understood of the Expanded Universe, the majority of it is canon and accepted by Lucas until he decides to change something that contradicts it. Then and only then is the story no longer canon.
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Expanded_Universe

 

[Vlad The Impaler]

Um...I'm pretty sure none of the books are canon. They're part of the "expanded universe."

As far as I know, the only things that are canon are the 7 films (Clone Wars being the 7th) and The Force Unleashed video game, and even that is only canon depending on what choice you make at the end. If you kill Vader and join the Emperor then it's not canon. If you spare Vader and save Leia, then it's canon.

I know one of the fansites came up with a way of classifying everything into degrees of canon but none of that is official or endorsed by Lucas.

Every single novel in the expanded universe is cannon.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Canon

 

[Neutron66]

Every single novel in the expanded universe is cannon.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Canon

If you read all of that then you see that Lucas considers the films to be the only canon.

There are two worlds here," explained Lucas. "There's my world, which is the movies, and there's this other world that has been created, which I say is the parallel universe—the licensing world of the books, games and comic books. They don't intrude on my world, which is a select period of time, [but] they do intrude in between the movies. I don't get too involved in the parallel universe.

I don't read that stuff. I haven't read any of the novels. I don't know anything about that world. That's a different world than my world. But I do try to keep it consistent. The way I do it now is they have a Star Wars Encyclopedia. So if I come up with a name or something else, I look it up and see if it has already been used. When I said [other people] could make their own Star Wars stories, we decided that, like Star Trek, we would have two universes: My universe and then this other one. They try to make their universe as consistent with mine as possible, but obviously they get enthusiastic and want to go off in other directions.

But there's no story past Episode VI, there's just no story. It's a certain story about Anakin Skywalker and once Anakin Skywalker dies, that's kind of the end of the story. There is no story about Luke Skywalker, I mean apart from the books. But there's three worlds: There's my world that I made up, there's the licensing world that's the books, the comics, all that kind of stuff, the games, which is their world, and then there's the fans' world, which is also very rich in imagination, but they don't always mesh. All I'm in charge of is my world. I can't be in charge of those other people's world, because I can't keep up with it.

Like I said, the idea that anything else is canon is the work of the fanbase, not Lucas.

 

[JayJohn85]

just buy the Old Republic....Problem sorted.

 

[knowone]

There was never any plans for "the next 3". Lucas wrote a back story to establish where everyone came from. All the books in the Star Wars Universe are Canon, completely authorized by Lucas.

Originally he had an outline for 12 movies, three trilogies and three stand alone stories. Around the time he was in pre-production for Empire Strikes Back it was cut down to just the 3 trilogies. After the 3rd film, he said that's it, I'm not doing any more. A decade or so later he decided to do the prequel trilogy, but nothing more. Right now the original cast is the right age for for the last trilogy (said to be set 30-40 years after 4,5,6, any longer and the won't be able to do.

 

[darkwarrior3007]

If you read all of that then you see that Lucas considers the films to be the only canon.


Like I said, the idea that anything else is canon is the work of the fanbase, not Lucas.

Did you skip my post on purpose and pretend it didn't exist? I submit it again.
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Expanded_Universe

The Expanded Universe (or EU for short) encompasses every one of the officially licensed, fictional background of the Star Wars universe, outside of the six Star Wars films produced by George Lucas. It is derived from and includes most official Star Wars-related books, comic books, video games, spin-off films, television series, toys, and other media. This material expands and continues the stories told in the films, taking place anywhere from over 5,000 years before The Phantom Menace to 133 years after Return of the Jedi. For the most part, the Expanded Universe is considered canonical by Lucasfilm Ltd.—though subordinate to film canon. However, the issue is one of the most hotly debated topics among fans.

 

[Vlad The Impaler]

If you read all of that then you see that Lucas considers the films to be the only canon.

Like I said, the idea that anything else is canon is the work of the fanbase, not Lucas.

Well every time I ever read anything from the authors of the novels they were talking up down left right about how the novels are gospel. Lying bastards!

But its more the work of DelRay than it is the fans.

Originally he had an outline for 12 movies, three trilogies and three stand alone stories. Around the time he was in pre-production for Empire Strikes Back it was cut down to just the 3 trilogies. After the 3rd film, he said that's it, I'm not doing any more. A decade or so later he decided to do the prequel trilogy, but nothing more. Right now the original cast is the right age for for the last trilogy (said to be set 30-40 years after 4,5,6, any longer and the won't be able to do.

This I know is not true cause I have the box set trilogy with interviews with Lucas where he says he never had anything planned or written or imagined past the story of Anakin Skywalker. He said straight out there was never any plan for 9 movies.

 

[Smallville417]

I'm sure I would watch them, just because I am that huge of a fan I had problems with the prequels, but there were things I enjoyed in all 3.

 

[D-rock]

The original films are some of the best all time. They created the best fictional universe that has ever been created. There is just no way it could ever be done better, nor should it be tried.

Now the extended universe, that's another story. While a lot of the early stuff is good or even great if they wanted to go back and reboot everything post-RoTJ that has been written in the last ten years after the second Thrawn series that turned post-RotJ Star Wars EU into a steaming pile of crap it is now, and fix what is wrong with it, I would be a very happy person. I would also be happy if they dropped the upcoming MMO game out of canon entirely and told the real story from the time period after KotOR 1 and 2 with the characters in them without screwing them over.




There are degrees of Canon and while they have never officially been endorsed directly from Lucas they have been by the company that he specifically made just for that, so most stuff is pretty much right under the canon of the films. That also hasn't stopped Lucas from engaging in a bit of disastrous executive meddling here and there with it when it suits him so despite what he says he doesn't completely ignore it (Unless it screws of more people doing so then he often will.)

 

[Vlad The Impaler]

The original films are some of the best all time. They created the best fictional universe that has ever been created. There is just no way it could ever be done better, nor should it be tried.

Now the extended universe, that's another story. While a lot of the early stuff is good or even great if they wanted to go back and reboot everything post-RoTJ that has been written in the last ten years after the second Thrawn series that turned post-RotJ Star Wars EU into a steaming pile of garbage it is now, and fix what is wrong with it, I would be a very happy person. I would also be happy if they dropped the upcoming MMO game out of canon entirely and told the real story from the time period after KotOR 1 and 2 with the characters in them without screwing them over.




There are degrees of Canon and while they have never officially been endorsed directly from Lucas they have been by the company that he specifically made just for that, so most stuff is pretty much right under the canon of the films. That also hasn't stopped Lucas from engaging in a bit of disastrous executive meddling here and there with it when it suits him so despite what he says he doesn't completely ignore it (Unless it screws of more people doing so then he often will.)

Yeah, so either he's lying or DelRay is. They say that they have to check with him before they write anything.