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Staggering Survey Finds Almost One-Third of Millennials Identify as Socialist

georges

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Harpsman

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Hardly a big deal though:dunno:
 

georges

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Hardly a big deal though:dunno:

No, it is a big deal because socialism means backwards society and sharing misery. Remember that America will never be a socialist country.
 

Supafly

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You need to decide which kind of socialism we talk about - the one in which everybody pays for a cancer-like meta-military force, that long has passed being in a realm that is still necessary, and floods big corporations with tax exemption and helps them keep workforce, that livbes on welfare...

... or the kind that here in Europe, for example, gives the actual cititens decent healthcare, education, ssomewhat fair labour payment, etc.

So there is a large part of the young ones who want #2?

Yeah, is that surprising?
 
Millenials started to care abut politics after the end of the Cold War, at a time where didn't existed anymore , where "socialist" or "communist" did not meant "soviet spy" anymore. They haven't been brainwashed by anti-socialist propaganda like previous generations.

To them, socialistm doesn't refer to Cuba, China, Cambodia or USSR but to democratic-socilism like Denmark, Norway or the Netherlands.
To them, "socialism" doesn't meant political prisonners, Gulag and authoritarian regimes but free healthcare, free education, living wages, decent maternity leaves, etc.
 

georges

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You need to decide which kind of socialism we talk about - the one in which everybody pays for a cancer-like meta-military force, that long has passed being in a realm that is still necessary, and floods big corporations with tax exemption and helps them keep workforce, that livbes on welfare...

... or the kind that here in Europe, for example, gives the actual cititens decent healthcare, education, ssomewhat fair labour payment, etc.

So there is a large part of the young ones who want #2?

Yeah, is that surprising?

The numberof countries having a socialist government is declining aside perhaps the stubborn nations such as Germany, France, Denmark and Belgium who haven't undertsood that uncontrolled massive immigration is more a danger than something else, the situation isn't going to improve. Italy, Sweden, Finland, Hungary, Poland and the UK moved fully to the right whereas Spain and Portugal are stuck with shitty and feckless socialism where poverty, high unemployment and staggering debt reign supreme. Fair labour payment doesn't exist, you are either qualified and graduated for a job or you aren't and in that case, you can't ask the same salary than someone who has a MBA and 15 years of experience. Also in Germany a lot of people have two jobs simultaneously in order to pay their taxes and live decently. Healthcare and education, is now getting more and more privatized but that is normal not everyone is fine for paying for people who have never contributed to the social security system but who just came in a country in order to leech off social advantages.
 

georges

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Millenials started to care abut politics after the end of the Cold War, at a time where didn't existed anymore , where "socialist" or "communist" did not meant "soviet spy" anymore. They haven't been brainwashed by anti-socialist propaganda like previous generations.

To them, socialistm doesn't refer to Cuba, China, Cambodia or USSR but to democratic-socilism like Denmark, Norway or the Netherlands.
To them, "socialism" doesn't meant political prisonners, Gulag and authoritarian regimes but free healthcare, free education, living wages, decent maternity leaves, etc.

Denmark is already putting an end to people who immigrate in order to leech off its social advantages
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/01/world/europe/denmark-immigrant-ghettos.html
http://time.com/5328347/denmark-ghettos-policies/
Norway has also set new rules for immigration
https://norskbloggen.no/new-rules-for-immigration-to-norway
but also what eight years of right-wing rule will mean for foreigners in Norway
https://www.thelocal.no/20170926/wh...-wing-rule-will-mean-for-foreigners-in-norway
Even in the Netherlands, people have moved or are trending to move on the right
https://www.nationalreview.com/magazine/2017/03/20/holland-immigration-policy/

Socialism means the equal distribution of misery, loss of patriotic values, loss of borders and no real economy because based on an economy of state and a bad government comes from a too big government
 

georges

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let's not forget this
 

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georges

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If the next generation wants it that is eventually what will pass.

I don't think that hundred of millions of people who fought hard to build a beautiful and economically prosperous country will let it go down into a third world shithole because of some dellusioned millenials. A civil war might happen at the rate things are going on and it won't be pretty.

Bollox! :1orglaugh

Not bollocks :nono: unless you live in a house of glass
 
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