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Should taxpayers fund stadiums and arenas for pro sports teams?

Facetious

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Re: Should taxpayers fund stadiums and arenas for pro sports teams?

Fuck no, why should non taxpayers, i.e. poor people by choice/far left democrats) have the ability to disenfranchise the taxpayers who would vote no on a measure for a new ballpark etc.?
Get it, why are they even allowed to vote on measures that cost money? they don't patronize the ballparks, taxpayers do!:clap:
 

Legzman

what the fuck you lookin at?
FUCK NO! I don't want my tax money going to build something that the multimillionaire team owner should be responsible for building. That's like saying tax money should pay for peoples houses. It's not gonna happen and neither should funding for building sports arenas.
 

luvsemlarge

Closed Account
Absolutely NOT. My same thoughts concerning PBS, and the National Endowment of the Arts. Fuck that shit.

NASCAR, PGA, LPGA, etc., all stand on their own two feet without needing ME to be taxed so that it doesn't fail. Fuck the ARTS!
 

John_8581

FreeOnes Lifetime Member
No. The feeling here in Nassau County is that the Town of Hempstead supervisor Kate Murray and her cronies (political friends) kept stalling and making excuses over the building of a new Nassau Coliseum and development of the surrounding land. Then they had meetings to start the processes and they all got side tracked in committees. They are so corrupt. The Town kept rejecting "The Lighthouse Project." They forced Charles Wang to pay millions of dollars for five or six environmental studies over the years to an environmental company paid as fees to revitalize downtown Uniondale, where the New York Islanders play. How many of these so called studies were useful? Maybe the first three. I'm guessing. Now some of the money "magically" passed from the environmental company back to the Town Attorney through "contributions" to PAC funds and local bar associations. I wish Newsday and the other newspapers would do an investigation. Eventually it came for all of Nassau County to vote in the bond measure. We voted it down. The Town of Hempstead f*cked up and they asked us the whole County to pay for it. We were right in rejecting it. Ed Mangano, the Nassau County Executive, is now trying to get private funding for a new home for the Islanders. Good luck with that one.

Here's some of it...

http://www.longislandpress.com/2010/07/22/stalling-the-lighthouse-project/
 
Should they? No. Do they essentially have to? Yes....because if they don't, some other city that wants a pro sports team will.
 
I think they should. That is why I voted that way.

Keep on voting!

(Let those that choose not to vote complain later!)
 

Rey C.

Racing is life... anything else is just waiting.
Re: Should taxpayers fund stadiums and arenas for pro sports teams?

Fuck no, why should non taxpayers, i.e. poor people by choice/far left democrats) have the ability to disenfranchise the taxpayers who would vote no on a measure for a new ballpark etc.?
Get it, why are they even allowed to vote on measures that cost money? they don't patronize the ballparks, taxpayers do!:clap:

They're usually financed with muni bonds. And depending on what type of muni bond it is (general obligation, revenue bond - which come partially from utility assessments or assessment bond - which come from real estate taxes, etc.), it may or may not affect "poor people by choice/far left democrats".

For instance, I believe that you live in SoCal. I have an interest in some real estate there. So if there is a stadium being built with assessment munis in your area and you are a renter, I'm actually paying for a stadium in your area, even though I don't live there and you aren't (directly) paying a dime.

Wait.. wut???!!! You damn socialist you!!! You sponging, pinko, red commie, you!!! :mad:

But however you want to look at it, I'm still against this sort of public financing of private enterprises.
 
im kinda in the middle of this topic with my sports interests...The Padres put it to a vote and the public approved the use of its money for what became Petco Park. The Chargers and the Spanos family in particular, want the city to fund a new stadium for them cause they know the taxpayers are in tough times so they wont approve the use of their money for it.
Jesse Ventura when he was governor of Minnesota told the Twins upfront that he would never approve taxpayers money going into a new stadium.

I personally think this should be left to the voters if they want taxpayer funding to go towards sports venues, esp. if it involves hundreds of millions of dollars.
 
Its entirly up to the voters in the area if they want their taxes raised a couple of percentage points to fund a new sports complex or race track, if done the area could see a big jump in revenue and a new job or two!
 
Its entirly up to the voters in the area if they want their taxes raised a couple of percentage points to fund a new sports complex or race track, if done the area could see a big jump in revenue and a new job or two!

Agreed. Put it to a ballot measure. By and large, it's the people of the city in question who are going to have to put in the most work making a new stadium succeed (although, of course, it's the draw of outside revenues that will actually define it's success down the road). If they're committed enough to the cause to support an increase in sales, property, or income taxes, I say let them have at it. In the right situation, a stadium can be a great investment.

And yes, I realize it's ridiculous that people would support an increase in taxes so that they can pay even more money to watch a bunch of multi-mullionaires run around a field/court with a little ball, but they won't support an increase in taxes to pay for schools or roads or police. People are dumb. But they're going to be dumb no matter what you do, so there's no point whining about it.
 
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