Shoud Turkey be a member of EU?

[blakey]

Yeah alright I'm hateful. Fair enough. But YEAH a lot of Muslims around the world go around killing people and toting heads, and YEAH I would call myself civilized compared to those savages. NO I am not becoming what I hate, I don't go around killing people and toting heads. It's human instinct to protect one's own life and welfare and countrymen and protecting freedom and all of that shit that George says HELL YEAH I buy it. Their religion has brainwashed them, they are killing us and we are saving ourselves. I am sure there are more than a handful of people on this board who feel the same way that I do and there have been numerous threads on politics that have also instigated heated debates such as this. Same shit different day. Sleep on it.

apparently you fail to see the difference between "heated debates" and your previous post in which you were calling for a gobal muslim genocide

 

[jamrak]

there have been numerous threads on politics that have also instigated heated debates such as this. Same shit different day. Sleep on it.

here is not an abstract political thread. it is a poll. I am interested in results at that particular board, want to know what will be the % difference at the end. As for such heated debates - they can appear in every topic...

 

[blakey]

apparently you fail to see the difference between "heated debates" and your previous post in which you were calling for a gobal muslim genocide

for those who haven't guessed the above word should've been global, not gobal

 

[georges]

No way, because Turkey is not european by its beliefs, its geography,its culture and its history.

 

[McRocket]

My answer?

The EU is just an organization. A man made organization. Is not anointed from God. Like NATO or the UN or the old Warsaw Pact or an Elvis Presley fan club; it's just a club.
And if the club members (through a referendum hopefully) want someone else in that wants in - they should come in. And if they don't, they shouldn't.

But again. Until they at least take responsibility for what they did to the Armenians way back when, I would not want them in any 'club' I belonged to.
And I care not how long ago they did it or what other countries do that is bad. That changes nothing for the people that they killed (or forced march to death).

 

[Christmas_Ape]

Well, after viewing the poll results, I'll go with what dvc voted for, cause he's the biggest turkey here!

 

[dick van cock]

As you can see, Turkey which is Asia's 8th richest nation (above China), is also above European nations Serbia, Belarus, Macedonia, Albania, Bosnia, Georgia, Azerbaijan and Moldova,

None of them is an EU member. Let's have a close cooperation with Turkey on an economic and immigration basis - just like the deal we just closed with Central Asia's nations Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan et al.

No full-tilt membership for me... We simply cannot divulge it. Easy for you to advocate Turkish membership. Ever heard of the "Polish plumber"? We'll have millions of Turkish plumbers after an EU entry of Türkiye...

Why don't you tell us what you really think should be done with the Turks in Germany. I'd love to read your mind.

You should know me better by now, Fox! My post was a sarcastic remark to m12's unbalanced, childish and simply stupid Turkey-bashing.

I am very comfortable with my Turkish friends who are fully integrated to German society.

There is a sarcastic saying I like to quote: "Ausländer rein, Rheinländer raus!" meaning (dedicated to LadyLove): Foreigners in, Rhineland people out...

Just don't pin me as a racist, Fox!

 

[McRocket]

How do you say "Nazi" in English anyway? I'm pretty sure it's a German word. We should all really stop using it since it is technically not in the board language...

Sincerely
Fox

I believe the word 'Nazi' is slang for someone who used to belong to the National Socialist party.

 

[BNF]

"Nazi" are the first two syllables of "National" in German. It's an abbreviation.

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The simple point, Fox, is that no EU minister will admit to being comfortable with having those countries directly on the EU border. Especially with Turkey then in charge of patrolling them.

 

[dick van cock]

I don't think you're a racist, but I do think you're sometimes slightly biased while "rooting for the home team" if you know what I mean.

You simply cannot compare the two issues. European racism against Muslims and Jews is a phenomenon that is not eradicable - estimates say that about 20 % of Europeans follow this supremacist shit.

My rooting for Israel is based on personal experience. Due to the Arab leaders folly, Israel's existence is threatened. I won't blame an overwhelming majority of ordinary Arabs for it (even though they are indoctrinated from the day of their birth)... no further comment on this!

In the favor of Turkey: Israel has close military ties to Turkey (Syria being suspicious to both of them...)

If Serbia and Albania will ascend to EU memebership in the next 20 years, Turkey will follow. But I doubt it will happen... You don't live here currently, but we already have our hands full soothing the Poles and subsidising the Romanians. The EU has already overstepped its administrative boundaries. Before there is no workable plan for a constitution, we won't see any poor countries joining soon. (Norway and Switzerland are ALWAYS welcome).

I'm glad you translated that because there's nothing worse than having a foreign phrase on the board!

:glugglug:

 

[McRocket]

"Nazi" are the first two syllables of "National" in German. It's an abbreviation.

I am going to disagree with you there. It is not just an abbreviation from the word 'National'. That would mean every time someone uses the word 'national', they could substitute 'nazi' for it.

Nazi is short for National Socialist German Workers' Party (In German: Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei or NSDAP). That is why the word 'Nazi' is capitalized (I assume).
If you were a member of that party you were often called a 'Nazi'.

I believe the 'z' in Nazi came from the 'S' in 'Socialist'.

 

[dick van cock]

I am going to disagree with you there. It is not just an abbreviation from the word 'National'. That would mean every time someone uses the word 'national', they could substitute 'nazi' for it.

Nazi is short for National Socialist German Workers' Party (In German: Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei or NSDAP). That is why the word 'Nazi' is capitalized (I assume).
If you were a member of that party you were often called a 'Nazi'.

I believe the 'z' in Nazi came from the 'S' in 'Socialist'.

You are both wrong :tongue:

The correct answer is: It's the phonetics, stoopid!

"Nationalsozialist" is pronounced "Nazi" at the beginning. Hence, the abbreviation is very simple.

 

[BNF]

^That's actually exactly what I said!

 

[dick van cock]

You are both wrong :tongue:

The correct answer is: It's the phonetics, stoopid!

"Nationalsozialist" is pronounced "Nazi" at the beginning. Hence, the abbreviation is very simple.

Well, ... that's actually what BNF said... :o

 

[McRocket]

You are both wrong :tongue:

The correct answer is: It's the phonetics, stoopid!

"Nationalsozialist" is pronounced "Nazi" at the beginning. Hence, the abbreviation is very simple.

From Webster-Merriam online dictionary:

'Main Entry: Na·zi
Pronunciation: 'nät-sE, 'nat-
Function: noun
Etymology: German, by shortening & alteration from Nationalsozialist, from national national + Sozialist socialist'

And I could do without being called 'stoopid' you moroon, unless you have proof to back it up.
Got it dickhood?

 

[belfastsixpack]

From Webster-Merriam online dictionary:

'Main Entry: Na·zi
Pronunciation: 'nät-sE, 'nat-
Function: noun
Etymology: German, by shortening & alteration from Nationalsozialist, from national national + Sozialist socialist'

And I could do without being called 'stoopid' you moroon, unless you have proof to back it up.
Got it dickhood?

maybe we should get M12 up in here to settle this?

PS. "dickhood" are you calling him a foreskin?:rofl:

 

[McRocket]

maybe we should get M12 up in here to settle this?

Who is M12?

And I was at least partially wrong. Maybe wholly.

 

[belfastsixpack]

maleonetwo

and i don't know who the ass is, i got it here.

 

[dick van cock]

And I could do without being called 'stoopid' you moroon, unless you have proof to back it up.
Got it dickhood?

Do we detect cultural references when we see them :dunno:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It's_the_economy,_stupid

 

[georges]

No other reasons? What if Israel wanted to join? What if USA wanted to join? Do you have other reasons for not wishing Turkiye involved?

Europe has to be Europe even if it is fucking brothel of 27 countries that are not really united. It looks likemore the U.S.S.R in worst aspect than something else. Israel doesn't care much of Europe because Europe has and had more a pro arab foreign policy than the U.S.A. Israel cares much more about USA who has been its unconditional ally since the 60's. I have seen how well "integrated" are Turks in Germany when I was in Germany 7 years ago. Many of them very difficultly adapt themselves to the local customs, rules and habits. Capacity of social adaptation and integration is a criteria on which I judge people.