SHEMALE SNAKES: Males say: screw genetics! If it smells like a female, I'm gonna mate

[Icewater Jones]

Re: SHEMALE SNAKES: Males say: screw genetics! If it smells like a female, I'm gonna

Then you build on the decision you've made, going as far with how you choose to live as you see fit. Choice begets choice. So long as there are options, there is choice.

By the way, I don’t ignore science in the least, but their study is predicated on physical and biological reasoning behind chosen lifestyles. As I said before, you could've chosen to live anyway you want, and you're more than a transsexual. Everything you are isn't determined by biology, but rather most being defined by your experiences and perception, formed via the compilation of situations your life has presented.

 

[squallumz]

Re: SHEMALE SNAKES: Males say: screw genetics! If it smells like a female, I'm gonna

if someone closes this, im gonna be mad. this is fun.

 

[TrueTranssexual]

Re: SHEMALE SNAKES: Males say: screw genetics! If it smells like a female, I'm gonna

Then you build on the decision you've made, going as far with how you choose to live as you see fit. Choice begets choice. So long as there are options, there is choice.

By the way, I don’t ignore science in the least, but their study is predicated on physical and biological reasoning behind chosen lifestyles. As I said before, you could've chosen to live anyway you want, and you're more than a transsexual. Everything you are isn't determined by biology, but rather most being defined by your experiences and perception, formed via the compilation of situations your life has presented.

Basically, you are saying is you choose to be gay or transsexual (not the same thing). I disagree...Logically, you choose to do something about it, just like a heterosexual chooses to participate in sex, but the original attraction is already there. But you have not answered the question, are you suggesting we ignore transsexual's experience, and for example, socially treat mtf as men because in your mind they choose this? Because the whole premise of whether is a choice or not don't matter, unless you re trying to revoke legitimacy to conditions that have existed for thousands of years.

And once again, if for you is a choice that should not be accepted, that's a moral argument. And we know how morality differs from people to people, and from hypocrite to hypocrite.

Still, all this psychobabble has nothing to do with the thread, which is males reaction to "shemales," despite genetics or genitals in the animal kingdom (homosapiens included).

 

[Icewater Jones]

Re: SHEMALE SNAKES: Males say: screw genetics! If it smells like a female, I'm gonna

Basically, you are saying is you choose to be gay or transsexual (not the same thing). I disagree...Logically, you choose to do something about it, just like a heterosexual chooses to participate in sex, but the original attraction is already there. But you have not answered the question, are you suggesting we ignore transsexual's experience, and for example, socially treat mtf as men because in your mind they choose this? Because the whole premise of whether is a choice or not don't matter, unless you re trying to revoke legitimacy to conditions that have existed for thousands of years.

And once again, if for you is a choice that should not be accepted, that's a moral argument. And we know how morality differs from people to people, and from hypocrite to hypocrite.

Still, all this psychobabble has nothing to do with the thread, which is males reaction to "shemales," despite genetics or genitals in the animal kingdom (homosapiens included).

The simple fact is, people change. They do this based a multitude of situations, experiences, and circumstances. If someone killed my mother, and I exact revenge by murdering that person, in no way does this mean I have the brain of a murderer. I was not born a football player, but I can become one. Like you said: you do something about the attraction which is already there, but we both know attraction is developed. You can't be attracted to anything before you've experienced it in some form or fashion. It's the reason that Stevie Wonder can't exclusively be attracted to blondes. He's never seen a blonde. You cannot choose to be a woman without an idea of what a woman is.

I do not like mangoes. I haven't had one in years. If I decide to try one today, and like it, did the mango change to suit my taste or did I change???

 

[TrueTranssexual]

Re: SHEMALE SNAKES: Males say: screw genetics! If it smells like a female, I'm gonna

The simple fact is, people change. They do this based a multitude of situations, experiences, and circumstances. If someone killed my mother, and I exact revenge by murdering that person, in no way does this mean I have the brain of a murderer. I was not born a football player, but I can become one. Like you said: you do something about the attraction which is already there, but we both know attraction is developed. You can't be attracted to anything before you've experienced it in some form or fashion. It's the reason that Stevie Wonder can't exclusively be attracted to blondes. He's never seen a blonde. You cannot choose to be a woman without an idea of what a woman is.

I do not like mangoes. I haven't had one in years. If I decide to try one today, and like it, did the mango change to suit my taste or did I change???

You are going around in circles, and are essentially comparing apples to oranges. The inner sense of whether you are a man or woman is independant of a desire for revenge. Two different things.

I didn't choose to be a woman, I chose to be myself.

And blah blh blahh..nature vs nurture, doesn't really matter....answer the question..

Originally Posted by TrueTranssexual

are you suggesting we ignore transsexual's experience, and for example, socially treat mtf as men because in your mind they choose this? Because the whole premise of whether is a choice or not don't matter, unless you re trying to revoke legitimacy to conditions that have existed for thousands of years.

And once again, if for you is a choice that should not be accepted, that's a moral argument. And we know how morality differs from people to people, and from hypocrite to hypocrite.

Still, all this psychobabble has nothing to do with the thread, which is males reaction to "shemales," despite genetics or genitals in the animal kingdom (homosapiens included).

 

[Icewater Jones]

Re: SHEMALE SNAKES: Males say: screw genetics! If it smells like a female, I'm gonna

You are going around in circles, and are essentially comparing apples to oranges. The inner sense of whether you are a man or woman is independant of a desire for revenge. Two different things.

I didn't choose to be a woman, I chose to be myself.

And blah blh blahh..nature vs nurture, doesn't really matter....answer the question..

The ts EXPERIENCE: You said that.

Experience is developed. Nobody is born with an EXPERIENCE. It is apples and oranges. To know and understand the differences, they must be experienced in some way before decided upon. You can make decisions on these experiences as a child, though you have very little means to execute actions based on it. You were gonna be yourself anyway, you have no other option than this, as you are only one being. You chose to be a woman, after experiencing and developing perceptions between man and woman. Setting you own definitions of what you think either or is. Your personal experience in to this has driven you to become what you are today. You have experienced the apple. You have experienced the orange. Based on those, you have made a decision and has grown to a point you can execute upon that on your own. This is what it means to be human. People like yourself mean to take this out of the equation in order to separate yourself, as a means of slight exclusion.

No scientific test has ever been completed to show that a newborn will or won't be transsexual/transgender/homosexual. Tests have been attempted, but have never been consistent, thus never completed.

 

[BAYAMONXXX]

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This thread is like a tennis match back & fourth.

True TS is Serena Williams

Icewater Jones is Arthur Ashe :1orglaugh

 

[TrueTranssexual]

Re: SHEMALE SNAKES: Males say: screw genetics! If it smells like a female, I'm gonna

The ts EXPERIENCE: You said that.

Experience is developed. Nobody is born with an EXPERIENCE. It is apples and oranges. To know and understand the differences, they must be experienced in some way before decided upon. You can make decisions on these experiences as a child, though you have very little means to execute actions based on it. You were gonna be yourself anyway, you have no other option than this, as you are only one being. You chose to be a woman, after experiencing and developing perceptions between man and woman. Setting you own definitions of what you think either or is. Your personal experience in to this has driven you to become what you are today. You have experienced the apple. You have experienced the orange. Based on those, you have made a decision and has grown to a point you can execute upon that on your own. This is what it means to be human. People like yourself mean to take this out of the equation in order to separate yourself, as a means of slight exclusion.

No scientific test has ever been completed to show that a newborn will or won't be transsexual/transgender/homosexual. Tests have been attempted, but have never been consistent, thus never completed.

Once again, evading the simple question asked, and picking out apart not even a complete sentence out of whole paragraph, ignoring the rest of what was said.
We could go on forever with this nature vs nurture debate, even though you admit there are biological factors that predispose certain behaviours, but that we make a choice to follow them (stating the obvious)... but what are you essentially saying, that transsexualism is wrong because you see it as a choice, and we should not acknowledge it?
You pretend to know ppl more than themselves, and to me that's very irational.

 

[DOA82]

Re: SHEMALE SNAKES: Males say: screw genetics! If it smells like a female, I'm gonna

Holy Hell I thought this would have been closed by now!

 

[Icewater Jones]

Re: SHEMALE SNAKES: Males say: screw genetics! If it smells like a female, I'm gonna

Once again, evading the simple question asked, and picking out apart not even a complete sentence out of whole paragraph, ignoring the rest of what was said.
We could go on forever with this nature vs nurture debate, even though you admit there are biological factors that predispose certain behaviours, but that we make a choice to follow them (stating the obvious)... but what are you essentially saying, that transsexualism is wrong because you see it as a choice, and we should not acknowledge it?
You pretend to know ppl more than themselves, and to me that's very irational.

are you suggesting we ignore transsexual's experience, and for example, socially treat mtf as men because in your mind they choose this?

If this is the question, I'll be glad to answer it.

No. I simply suggest treating them as people with a chosen life path. Everyone has experiences that mold this path, but the thing that binds us is we are human underneath it all, with the ability to choose and decide our walk. Adjust or adapt.

Now, you're partially correct about my stance. I don't doubt the possibility of some biological traits being involved, but I believe biological traits can be found for any chosen group of like people. I, however, never said choosing to be ts/tg/homo is wrong. To say that is to say that your experiences, tastes, and feelings are wrong, and that is not so. What I am saying is you should be acknowledged by all factors that make you unique. All men are created equal, but end up unique. I don't pretend to know people more than they know themselves, because nobody know themself 100% to start. Based on this, being on the outside looking in gives me a specific vantage point, which must be considered, just as your vantage point to my chosen lifestyle has value.

 

[Spleen]

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Some humans drown their young, some eat other humans...are you suggesting we are any better as a specie? I would say we are worse, being that our brain's more evolved, yet act worse.

I'm suggesting this means fuck all.

 

[BadNewsBewes]

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Yes we make choices, etc. But, there are biological factors, not always genetic, that result in certain conditions. To think we can escape biology is not very wise, as we the the result of it.

You tried to prove your point with an article in the OP, yet disagreed with the experts theory.

For instance, I know what it is to have low, but high for female, male hormone levels; and now, high female range hormone levels and almost undetected testosterone levels. The brain has plenty of receptors for this hormones.. and I can tell you my behavior, emotions are different under testosterone dominance than on estrogen dominance (despite my gender identity remaining the same). So to say that biological factors have no bearing on the brain sex characteristics and behaviour of an individual is to insult commonsense.

How is this thread still alive? Icewater Jones pointed out the flaws in your notion many posts ago and you're still going round in circles to keep the thread rollin.

What you are sayin is you were a man with low test levels and now you have been taking female hormone meds, so your female hormones are high. Did you think of trying TRT for your low test and remain as you were?

Receptors in the brain could alter behavior(not gender), but there's still no conclusive proof that it does.

Your notion that an animal mentally craves to be cross gender is ludicrous.

 

[Zolf J. Kimbly]

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looks like i made a wrong turn

well time to hit the old dusty trail....

 

[TrueTranssexual]

Re: SHEMALE SNAKES: Males say: screw genetics! If it smells like a female, I'm gonna

If this is the question, I'll be glad to answer it.

No. I simply suggest treating them as people with a chosen life path. Everyone has experiences that mold this path, but the thing that binds us is we are human underneath it all, with the ability to choose and decide our walk. Adjust or adapt.

Now, you're partially correct about my stance. I don't doubt the possibility of some biological traits being involved, but I believe biological traits can be found for any chosen group of like people. I, however, never said choosing to be ts/tg/homo is wrong. To say that is to say that your experiences, tastes, and feelings are wrong, and that is not so. What I am saying is you should be acknowledged by all factors that make you unique. All men are created equal, but end up unique. I don't pretend to know people more than they know themselves, because nobody know themself 100% to start. Based on this, being on the outside looking in gives me a specific vantage point, which must be considered, just as your vantage point to my chosen lifestyle has value.

So basically, you engaged in all this discussion to argue that aside of all scientific research on the subject, transsexuality is a choice, but is not wrong to choose it?

I personally don't give two cents about whether ppl believe is a choice or not, as this is my life, my body and I know what is right for me...so long as I don't infringe in other people' rights. If some people choose to be prejudiced and bigoted over this characteristic, they are more than welcomed to fuck off my business. For many it's very easy to castigate the transgressor of quite ridiculous 'social norms,' becuse they refuse to question those rules to begin with or don't have the capacity to...like some posters here.

 

[TrueTranssexual]

Re: SHEMALE SNAKES: Males say: screw genetics! If it smells like a female, I'm gonna

How is this thread still alive? Icewater Jones pointed out the flaws in your notion many posts ago and you're still going round in circles to keep the thread rollin.

Yes, as is someone like you, who have argued against shemales, that thinks that calling an mtf transsexual, "sir," will somehow put me in my place...is an objective reader to begin with.:1orglaugh Not that I think that you comprehend what you read all the time, to begin with.

What you are sayin is you were a man with low test levels and now you have been taking female hormone meds, so your female hormones are high. Did you think of trying TRT for your low test and remain as you were?

NO. Perhaps, because I'm transsexual?

Receptors in the brain could alter behavior(not gender), but there's still no conclusive proof that it does.

Yes there is conclusive proof that it alters behavior and desire, when you wake up with hard-on eager to have sex because of testosterone rising during your sleep, that's an example of it. To say that it doesn't, is like saying that the neurotransmitter Serotonin doesn't affect your mood.

Your notion that an animal mentally craves to be cross gender is ludicrous.

If you don't comprehend what you read, that's a pretty big barrier to learning. My "notion" has never been that "an animal mentally craves to be cross gender." I'm a mere mortal, and cannot read other ppl's minds, much less other animals totally unrelated to us. Not even scientists can do that. Hello!

 

[Icewater Jones]

Re: SHEMALE SNAKES: Males say: screw genetics! If it smells like a female, I'm gonna

So basically, you engaged in all this discussion to argue that aside of all scientific research on the subject, transsexuality is a choice, but is not wrong to choose it?

Why would I believe anyones chosen lifestyle, lived in peace and integrity, would be wrong??? Again, I can't tell you all your experiences and feelings that led you to this lifestyle are wrong, especially given the fact that you have gone great lengths for your personal comfort in living. There is no wrong choice in apples and oranges, just personal preference and taste.

 

[BadNewsBewes]

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Yes, as is someone like you, who have argued against shemales, that thinks that calling an mtf transsexual, "sir," will somehow put me in my place...is an objective reader to begin with.:1orglaugh Not that I think that you comprehend what you read all the time, to begin with.


NO. Perhaps, because I'm transsexual?


Yes there is conclusive proof that it alters behavior and desire, when you wake up with hard-on eager to have sex because of testosterone rising during your sleep, that's an example of it. To say that it doesn't, is like saying that the neurotransmitter Serotonin doesn't affect your mood.


If you don't comprehend what you read, that's a pretty big barrier to learning. My "notion" has never been that "an animal mentally craves to be cross gender." I'm a mere mortal, and cannot read other ppl's minds, much less other animals totally unrelated to us. Not even scientists can do that. Hello!

All this thread was designed to do, was to antagonise and provide a multi page vehicle for your soap box. It didn't have to make any sense. You lost on the first post, when you didn't want to believe the expert theory in the article that YOU posted to make a point.

I called you Sir because you are a biological man. I was concerned that You Might slip over on your stillettos when out for groceries.

NO. perhaps, because you are a deluded man with bolt on tits, that takes female hormone medication.

Hormone receptors in your brain altering your biological gender is totally different to normal sexual desires.

In your first posts you suggested a snake changed sex, not because of survival instinct, but because it wanted to be a half gender for male sexual attention. Hello!

Tranny Annie, I'm losing man points by even bothering to argue with you. So, I'll stay out of your threads from now on. Have fun MrTT.:hatsoff:

 

[TrueTranssexual]

Re: SHEMALE SNAKES: Males say: screw genetics! If it smells like a female, I'm gonna

All this thread was designed to do, was to antagonise and provide a multi page vehicle for your soap box. It didn't have to make any sense. You lost on the first post, when you didn't want to believe the expert theory in the article that YOU posted to make a point.

I called you Sir because you are a biological man. I was concerned that You Might slip over on your stillettos when out for groceries.

NO. perhaps, because you are a deluded man with bolt on tits, that takes female hormone medication.

Hormone receptors in your brain altering your biological gender is totally different to normal sexual desires.

In your first posts you suggested a snake changed sex, not because of survival instinct, but because it wanted to be a half gender for male sexual attention. Hello!

Tranny Annie, I'm losing man points by even bothering to argue with you. So, I'll stay out of your threads from now on. Have fun MrTT.:hatsoff:

hahahahahaha, thanks for the laugh. Now go get your GED, as I doubt you even made it out of high school. Your reading comprehension skills and reasoning are way too pathetic for a grown man.:1orglaugh

 

[TrueTranssexual]

Re: SHEMALE SNAKES: Males say: screw genetics! If it smells like a female, I'm gonna

Why would I believe anyones chosen lifestyle, lived in peace and integrity, would be wrong??? Again, I can't tell you all your experiences and feelings that led you to this lifestyle are wrong, especially given the fact that you have gone great lengths for your personal comfort in living. There is no wrong choice in apples and oranges, just personal preference and taste.

Ok, I'll agree to disagree. At least you are not a bigoted fool, unashamed of his prejudice and ignorance, like a transphobic neantherthal above .

You may not be completely objective, but definitely eloquent at expressing your beliefs...Now let me leave this with a pic of a wonderful human shemale:

 

[Zolf J. Kimbly]

Re: SHEMALE SNAKES: Males say: screw genetics! If it smells like a female, I'm gonna

Ok, I'll agree to disagree. At least you are not a bigoted fool, unashamed of his prejudice and ignorance, like a transphobic neantherthal above .

You may not be completely objective, but definitely eloquent at expressing your beliefs...Now let me leave this with a pic of a wonderful human shemale:

thats a tranny?:surprise:

you know i just might have to....

no..no! Bad Zolf!

Go sit in the corner!:crying: