Seventy metal books found in cave in Jordan could change our view of Biblical history

Should the Vatican be worried?

Could this be the biggest find since the Dead Sea Scrolls? Seventy metal books found in cave in Jordan could change our view of Biblical history


For scholars of faith and history, it is a treasure trove too precious for price.

This ancient collection of 70 tiny books, their lead pages bound with wire, could unlock some of the secrets of the earliest days of Christianity.

Academics are divided as to their authenticity but say that if verified, they could prove as pivotal as the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls in 1947.

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Lines of inquiry: The metal tablets could change our understanding of the Bible


On pages not much bigger than a credit card, are images, symbols and words that appear to refer to the Messiah and, possibly even, to the Crucifixion and Resurrection.

Adding to the intrigue, many of the books are sealed, prompting academics to speculate they are actually the lost collection of codices mentioned in the Bible’s Book Of Revelation.

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Revelation: Experts speculate that the tablets could be the lost collection of codices referred to in the Bible's Book Of Revelation


The books were discovered five years ago in a cave in a remote part of Jordan to which Christian refugees are known to have fled after the fall of Jerusalem in 70AD. Important documents from the same period have previously been found there.

Initial metallurgical tests indicate that some of the books could date from the first century AD.

This estimate is based on the form of corrosion which has taken place, which experts believe would be impossible to achieve artificially.

If the dating is verified, the books would be among the earliest Christian documents, predating the writings of St Paul.

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Hidden meaning: Scrolls, tablets and other artifacts, including an incense bowl, were also found at the same site as the tablets


The prospect that they could contain contemporary accounts of the final years of Jesus’s life has excited scholars – although their enthusiasm is tempered by the fact that experts have previously been fooled by sophisticated fakes.

David Elkington, a British scholar of ancient religious history and archeology, and one of the few to have examined the books, says they could be ‘the major discovery of Christian history’.

‘It is a breathtaking thought that we have held these objects that might have been held by the early saints of the Church,’ he said.

But the mysteries between their ancient pages are not the books’ only riddle. Today, their whereabouts are also something of a mystery. After their discovery by a Jordanian Bedouin, the hoard was subsequently acquired by an Israeli Bedouin, who is said to have illegally smuggled them across the border into Israel, where they remain.

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X marks the spot: The cave in Jordan where the artifacts were discovered


However, the Jordanian Government is now working at the highest levels to repatriate and safeguard the collection. Philip Davies, emeritus professor of biblical studies at Sheffield University, said there was powerful evidence that the books have a Christian origin in plates cast into a picture map of the holy city of Jerusalem.

‘As soon as I saw that, I was dumbstruck,’ he said. ‘That struck me as so obviously a Christian image. There is a cross in the foreground, and behind it is what has to be the tomb [of Jesus], a small building with an opening, and behind that the walls of the city.

‘There are walls depicted on other pages of these books too and they almost certainly refer to Jerusalem. It is a Christian crucifixion taking place outside the city walls.’

The British team leading the work on the discovery fears that the present Israeli ‘keeper’ may be looking to sell some of the books on to the black market, or worse – destroy them.

But the man who holds the books denies the charge and claims they have been in his family for 100 years.

Dr Margaret Barker, a former president of the Society for Old Testament Study, said: ‘The Book of Revelation tells of a sealed book that was opened only by the Messiah.

‘Other texts from the period tell of sealed books of wisdom and of a secret tradition passed on by Jesus to his closest disciples. That is the context for this discovery.’

Professor Davies said: ‘The possibility of a Hebrew-Christian origin is certainly suggested by the imagery and, if so, these codices are likely to bring dramatic new light to our understanding of a very significant but so far little understood period of history.’

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Groundbreaking find: A section of the Dead Sea Scrolls, which were unearthed in 1947


Mr Elkington, who is leading British efforts to have the books returned to Jordan, said: ‘It is vital that the collection can be recovered intact and secured in the best possible circumstances, both for the benefit of its owners and for a potentially fascinated international audience.’

*British scientists have uncovered up to eight million mummified dogs, thought to have been sacrificed to Anubis, the god of the dead, 2500 years ago after excavating tunnels in the ancient Eygptian city of Saqqara.



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StanScratch

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GUY: OK. OK. Read back what we have translated so far.
OTHER GUY: "And so Moses threw his cigarette into the bush, which caught it on fire..."
GUY: Uh...skip that part.
OTHER GUY: OK. Um..."And so Moses farted, parting his seat..."
GUY WITH MUSTACHE: Uh...better skip that part, too.
GUY: Yeah. Yeah. We better not tell people about that part. How about another section?
OTHER GUY: "And for 40 days and 40 nights, it rained...but not all the time, and not every day, it just seemed like a whole lot, until neighbors' yards became slightly flooded and the creek breached its banks in a couple of places, slightly covering some parts of the road. And so Noah, in his canoe made of bark, laughed at his neighbors as he rowed across the creek with his neighbor's goat and..." uh...I really don't want to go into the next part about it.
GUY WITH SILLY HAT: How the fuck did we mess that part up? How the fuck do we get a big boat out of a canoe? Mother fuck.
GUY: Now, let's not jump to too many conclusions. What about the beginning?
OTHER GUY: Seriously, I don't want to read that part. I mean...they go in on about Adam and Eve and the snake and the apple, but...I mean, this shit is pretty expensive. I'm starting to wonder if...maybe this wasn't a book that spoke the word of god, but archaic erotica. I mean...he does things to that snake...I don't want to go on about it.
GUY WITH FERRET ON HIS HEAD: Read the part about the son of god.
GUY WITH SILLY HAT: Why do you have a ferret on your head?
GUY WITH FERRET ON HIS HEAD: Because god spoke to me and told me that I should have a ferret on my head, and that I would become powerful and people would look at me in a different light.
GUY WITH A SILLY HAT: I see you as a loony.
GUY WITH A FERRET ON HIS HEAD: ...
GUY WITH A SILLY HAT: No. Seriously. You expect us to believe that god took it out of his busy day to tell you that putting a ferret on your head would make you omniscient? Come on! You look like a fool! And that animal looks totally put off!
GUY WITH A FERRET ON HIS HEAD: ...
GUY WITH A SILLY HAT: Do you ever wonder why people point at you and laugh? Do you ever wonder why nobody will car pool with you? We all live next door to you...yet, you drive to work alone. Even Karry, the fat receptionist who hugs and loves everyone, refuses to even touch you.
GUY WITH A FERRET ON HIS HEAD: ...
GUY WITH A FERRET ON HIS HEAD UNDER HIS BREATH: You have a silly hat.
GUY WITH A SILLY HAT: FUCK YOU ON A POGO STICK, COCKSUCKER!
GUY WITH MUSTACHE: Gentlemen, gentlemen. This is no way to act. Come. Let's read the passage about the son of god.
OTHER GUY: "And so Jesus said, 'Listen, guys, I think you keep getting confused. Joseph is my uncle. My dad is Doug. He was with my mom, Mary, a few years ago, then he went out to get some cigarettes. He's coming back soon. Seriously. He told me. He just told me that the convenience store is a bit down the road, and that he might go see a couple of friends on the way.'"
GUY: Yeah. We repeat that part to no one.
OTHER GUY: "And so Jesus said, 'We must aide the poor, for the meek shall inherit the Earth, and that all wealth must be shared, and that no war should be fought between man over any gods, wealth or oil..."
GUY: Yeah, that's out!
OTHER GUY: "And so the soldiers put the spike into Jesus' hands, and he cried and cried and cried and cried and cried and cried and cried and cried and cried and cried"...it goes on like that for a few more pages "...and cried, then soiled himself, until he begged the guards to cut him down so that he could tell them who else he was..." yeah. I think we have to rewrite this fucker as much as possible, guys. Otherwise, how else are we going to get the ignorant to follow us?
 

maildude

Postal Paranoiac
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Hasn't this happened, like, 70 times?
 

squallumz

knows petras secret: she farted.
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whatever it is, it doesnt really change the basics of christianity.

its a very simple belief system.
 

Kingfisher

Here Zombie, Zombie, Zombie...
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The stewards from the church will show up, grab it and destroy it. They don't want the truth out there.
 
Re: Seventy metal books found in cave in Jordan could change our view of Biblical his

The stewards from the church of Fox News will show up, grab it and destroy it. They don't want the truth out there.

There we go.
 
Re: Seventy metal books found in cave in Jordan could change our view of Biblical his

The stewards from the church will show up, grab it and destroy it. They don't want the truth out there.

That's a tad harsh...

But the Vatican has been worried from the time anyone dared to question their versions of anything. I don't have a problem with Christianity per se, just most of the hypocrites who hide behind it, and honestly, Catholics are at the top of that particular list.
 

TheOrangeCat

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Metal Books!! Rock on .....:banger::banger::banger::banger:

The Gospel of ACDC
Letters to Motorhead
the Pantera Psalms?

Did you know Jesus was a metalhead? True fact... the Templars knew it and that's why the Catholic church had them wiped out... because the Pope HATES metal. :cool:
 
Re: Seventy metal books found in cave in Jordan could change our view of Biblical his

It's a pretty interesting find, but unless there is a lot more to it they haven't revealed yet it doesn't really seem to change any early Christian history that much or add a lot. Maybe I'm just missing something.
 
Re: Seventy metal books found in cave in Jordan could change our view of Biblical his

The stewards from the church will show up, grab it and destroy it. They don't want the truth out there.

I don't think they destroy anything, just lock it in a vault and don't let anyone near it.

That's a tad harsh...

But the Vatican has been worried from the time anyone dared to question their versions of anything. I don't have a problem with Christianity per se, just most of the hypocrites who hide behind it, and honestly, Catholics are at the top of that particular list.

All true. The catholic church seems to hate anything discovered that would alter their version of history. They especially went nuts when the Judas gospels were found.
 
Re: Seventy metal books found in cave in Jordan could change our view of Biblical his

I don't think they destroy anything, just lock it in a vault and don't let anyone near it.



All true. The catholic church seems to hate anything discovered that would alter their version of history. They especially went nuts when the Judas gospels were found.

LOL I watched the film Stigmata a few hours ago, pretty much mirrored what you just said
 
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Oh This is why I love history. It's always changing when we find something new. So much for the past can't be changed.
 
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Great discovery.
 
Re: Seventy metal books found in cave in Jordan could change our view of Biblical his

Oh This is why I love history. It's always changing when we find something new. So much for the past can't be changed.

Yep. I just love the History Channel, Military Channel, Discovery Channel, Animal Planet, Science Channel, etc.
 

Kingfisher

Here Zombie, Zombie, Zombie...
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That's a tad harsh...

But the Vatican has been worried from the time anyone dared to question their versions of anything. I don't have a problem with Christianity per se, just most of the hypocrites who hide behind it, and honestly, Catholics are at the top of that particular list.

Yeah, the hypocrisy of the church disgusts me. Especially around where I live, it's pretty bad.
 
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Yeah, the hypocrisy of the church disgusts me. Especially around where I live, it's pretty bad.




Plenty of hard core Catholics where I am. Being Serb Orthodox I keep them at arms length.
 
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