Senator Lindsey Graham vs. U.S Atty Gen Eric Holder

Both AG's are responsible for not taking action. I was just pointing out one more of the many fuck-ups this administration is all about.

I believe there is video evidence of the harassment made towards white voters in Philly during election day. But I guess these kind of hate crimes just don't deserve to be prosecuted. Anyone else up for another "teachable moment?" :rolleyes:

Wouldn't that just be a complete waste of time? What you consider to be a "meltdown" regarding the Carrie Prejean interview is absolutely asinine to begin with, so I figure it's not even worth pointing out what I believe is harassment by racist black pieces of shits when you've already clearly made a close-minded opinion.

^ Woo woo ! 'attorney speak' :D

He's talking about the case where the thug bastards were armed with guns at the polling site, yea, I heard about that one. Amazing what *certain people* can get away with, huh ? More amazing is what the media will completely omit in order to conform to ethnic and / or partisan political kiss ass protocols.

:hammer:

The video was shown on television. That's how I became aware of these racist asshole storm troopers.

But again, even if I were to produce a video, I still believe you'd blow it off and stick to the talking points memo you get from the blogs you frequently visit.

^ Appeasement, pandering, and / or intimidation....maybe :dunno:

We are talking about Philly, right ?

The Fox-News-overblown singular incident at one Philadelphia polling place didn't involve any firearms or arrests.

Here's the incident in question. No wonder it wasn't investigated....where was the victim of the crime? Where was the "harassment"?? Faux's news making efforts here couldn't be more transparent.:rofl: Get how he says the Faux reporter was "confronted"...:1orglaugh
 
we already know who were the supporters of obama: louis farrakhan, reverend jesse jackson, oprah the steaming piece of shit, rachid khalidi, a radical islamist zealot and will ayers, a former weatherman terrorist. Tell me who are your friends and I will tell you who you are.
 
we already know who were the supporters of obama: louis farrakhan, reverend jesse jackson, oprah the steaming piece of shit, rachid khalidi, a radical islamist zealot and will ayers, a former weatherman terrorist. Tell me who are your friends and I will tell you who you are.

Now all you need to do is make those people his "friends" for you to have a point....Not talking about what Faux says....but the truth. We all know Faux's propensity for "rearranging" facts to create realities at odds with the truth.
 
Now all you need to do is make those people his "friends" for you to have a point....Not talking about what Faux says....but the truth. We all know Faux's propensity for "rearranging" facts to create realities at odds with the truth.

He also forgot to list some of the Obama supporters (not saying all those he listed apply as such though).Namely the better than 1/2 of all voters who voted for obama last election.Guess thay were all a bunch of blacks or former terrorists.Must be a lot more of them in the country then I thought.:rolleyes:
 
Eric Holder's a nutjob. Always has been and always will be. he will not be happy until the entire country is disarmed. he's just as guilty as the 9-11 terrorists!
 
Eric Holder's a nutjob. Always has been and always will be. he will not be happy until the entire country is disarmed. he's just as guilty as the 9-11 terrorists!

Now that your in person, psychological evaluation is compete....how would you feel if I told you Holder was thought so highly of by Reagan that he appointed him to D.C.'s Superior Court?
 
Now that your in person, psychological evaluation is compete....how would you feel if I told you Holder was thought so highly of by Reagan that he appointed him to D.C.'s Superior Court?

I would say I don't trust any of them...neither repbub, democerat or Indepentent (although there are some good Independents).
 

Facetious

Moderated
Not sure what he was referring with that statement but the precedence for trying co-conspirators with some criminal act is not new.
It matters little what he was referencing, the question was clear -
"Can you give me a case in United States history where an enemy combatant caught on a battlefield was tried in a civilian court ?" Furthermore, who are these "co-conspirators" of which you speak ? Oh, so now all enemies, that is, those who take up arms against this country, foreign or domestic are now "co-conspirators" NOT enemy combatants ? If that's the case, is it any surprise why we're all plugged up in process of the courts instead of concentrating all of our efforts on defeating a common enemy.

Someone should explain to him what RICO is all about because this is little more than that.
Someone should explain RICO to who ? and what is "little more" than giving captured foreign enemy combatants Miranda Rights and affording each a trial in American civil courts ? What if we, the U.S.of A. were to one day gather (capture) 10,000, 50,000, 250,000 armed combatants, that is, non citizens taking up arms against America, you mean to tell me that you would offer each their Miranda Rights ?:1orglaugh

You don't ..... really ..... do you ?
 
It matters little what he was referencing, the question was clear -
"Can you give me a case in United States history where an enemy combatant caught on a battlefield was tried in a civilian court ?" Furthermore, who are these "co-conspirators" of which you speak ? Oh, so now all enemies, that is, those who take up arms against this country, foreign or domestic are now "co-conspirators" NOT enemy combatants ? If that's the case, is it any surprise why we're all plugged up in process of the courts instead of concentrating all of our efforts on defeating a common enemy.


Someone should explain RICO to who ? and what is "little more" than giving captured foreign enemy combatants Miranda Rights and affording each a trial in American civil courts ? What if we, the U.S.of A. were to one day gather (capture) 10,000, 50,000, 250,000 armed combatants, that is, non citizens taking up arms against America, you mean to tell me that you would offer each their Miranda Rights ?:1orglaugh

You don't ..... really ..... do you ?

I want to label your response clueless or willful ignorance but I'll refrain from the disrespect.

But a couple of questions to illustrate my point. Was KSM caught on a "battlefield"? What were we after KSM for? Fighting us on a battlefield OR because he was a co-conspirator and mastermind of crimes???

A couple of facts. We don't try those suspected of crimes in American "civil courts". "Enemy combatant" is merely a status adopted by the Bush administration that they then widely defined to include many circumstances that don't apply to the battlefield. So when Graham words a question with his qualifiers like, "caught on the battlefield" and "enemy combatant" he's doing that to narrowly define the circumstance as one which hasn't existed. When in reality many of these people fall into to the same category as any fugitive or criminal merely arrested at some house, airport or otherwise (like KSM, Moussoui, Reed, etc.).

Like asking can we cite a time before when "Facetious" was caught wearing a polka dot shirt, polka dot bow tie, red foamed nose, baggy striped pants and oversized shoes to a Sarah Palin book signing....(maybe the likelihood of that makes it a bad example of a rare circumstance..)

Point being, Graham is merely using qualifiers to trump the broader, more realistic question of whether we've ever tried suspected terrorists and their accomplices in our criminal justice system. To which the answer to that is clearly "yes", circumstances of their arrest or capture notwithstanding.

Frankly Holder has an enormous mess to cleanup in terms how to deal with the nonsensical strategy Bush implemented to try some of these people once they were captured.

For example, KSM wasn't captured on a battlefield nor by US forces/agents. He was arrested by Pakistani ISI which defeats the whole "battlefield" scenario. He was then stupidly charged with war crimes when he was allegedly guilty of the same things Mouissoui was tried and found guilty of in the US criminal justice system.

The simple question for Graham would be why try KSM differently from the way we've tried the "Blind Sheik" and Mouissoui?
 

MILF Man

milf n' cookies
Could you imagine the hell and outrage that would be raised if white people were standing outside polling booths intimidating and waiving police batons at blacks saying they were only hear to serve their people?

I don't know why there wasn't an investigation into this! There sure was an overblown investigation when some nut-job race pimp professor was arrested at his home a earlier this year.
 
There is a video of someone being prevented from voting by some armed individual? That's a crime! Why didn't the victims complain?? Why didn't Mukasey conduct an investigation and bring these people to justice?



Could be but there is not doubt what was behind the backwards "B" faced loon and some of the other shenanigans....But back to the question..WHY NO INVESTIGATION BY MUKASEY?

The case is under investigation. One of the guys was a convicted felon and not allowed to own the type of weapon he was carrying, so he may not get off scott free, even if Holder ignores it.
 
Could you imagine the hell and outrage that would be raised if white people were standing outside polling booths intimidating and waiving police batons at blacks saying they were only hear to serve their people?

I don't know why there wasn't an investigation into this! There sure was an overblown investigation when some nut-job race pimp professor was arrested at his home a earlier this year.

There would be outrage if there was a case where a black was standing outside polling booths intimidating and waiving police batons at whites too. There is no such case.

The case is under investigation. One of the guys was a convicted felon and not allowed to own the type of weapon he was carrying, so he may not get off scott free, even if Holder ignores it.

What's under investigation? You're saying there are two different issues now. One is whether election laws were violated and separately one guy illegally in possession of a weapon. One is Holder's jurisdiction one isn't.

The one that is in his jurisdiction should have been investigated by his predecessor if the claim has any legitimacy which from all the video I've see is about as bogus as the backwards B faced loon's claims.

If the investigation into election laws being violated is the one ongoing....it's under Holder's watch so how can he also be ignoring it too??
 
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