Rules on Voting in America

[ninetysixcavy]

We had this discussion in one of my poli-sci classes earlier this month. What are your thoughts? Do you think there should be standards to vote in America? Some of the standards discussed include:

- a minimum of a high school diploma
- average IQ
- above average IQ
- a minimum of an Associate's degree
- must not be on welfare
- one vote per household

I feel like one vote per household is sufficient, but I think that individuals should preferably have an above average IQ.

 

[schoepserne]

In Europe, you have a commission checking your ID before you're allowed to cast your vote. Why not have these people ask the prospective voter a few basic questions about your political system before you're allowed to vote.

If you fail, you have another four or five years to learn your basics.

The uneducated folks were responsible for Ronald Reagan, John Major and Helmut Kohl, after all

 

[General Warcock]

no.

 

[Friday on my mind]

I would be against all of those ideas/requirments.If you like we can get into one by one later why.But I would like to ask since you say this was a subject of debate in one of your classes were these things the concensus that your class arrived at?

 

[BlueBalls]

In a free democracy everyone should be able to vote no matter who they are and what they have and as long as they are at the right voteing age.

Putting restrictions on voteing brings you closer towards totalitarianism.

 

[captclown]

How about being a citizen?

 

[schoepserne]

Putting restrictions on voteing brings you closer towards totalitarianism.

Communist!

I bet you don't have more than 6 GCSE's

(Your spelling gives it away)

 

[Facetious]

How about being a citizen?

Nicely done :bowdown:

I say h.s. diploma or g.e.d. equivalent and not more than one year on welfare. Reason being is that it is the human condition to get lazy after a down time, you must not be allowed to vote accordingly to your mooching ways.

Get off your ass and join the ranks of taxpayers !

 

[ninetysixcavy]

I would be against all of those ideas/requirments.If you like we can get into one by one later why.But I would like to ask since you say this was a subject of debate in one of your classes were these things the concensus that your class arrived at?

Those were among the ideas that were brought up. One I forgot in the poll: felon forfits any voting rights.

I'd be open to one vote per household, but would you not concur that the brightest in our society make informed, educated decisions on the behalf of this country, friday?

 

[LBP 76]

in a free democracy everyone should be able to vote no matter who they are and what they have and as long as they are at the right voteing age.

Putting restrictions on voteing brings you closer towards totalitarianism.

how about being a citizen?

agreed

 

[Friday on my mind]

Those were among the ideas that were brought up. One I forgot in the poll: felon forfits any voting rights.

I'd be open to one vote per household, but would you not concur that the brightest in our society make informed, educated decisions on the behalf of this country, friday?

Sure they probably make the best selections but that is no reason to say they are the only ones who can vote.The other people are citizens and have a stake and should have a vote as well.Hell if were going to go down that road we don't need votes at all just a select ruling group of intellectuals making all the decisions.And I really hate to have to raise this but you know things like this were used to try to prevent blacks from voting in the past and still are.That convicted felon one is still being used although even states like Florida which used it very effectively to block the black vote in 2000 ( Jeb helping his brother out lol) have now reenfranchised a lot of those people and given them their right to vote back.No way no how a so called free country should be stopping any citizen of age from voting for any reason.Too many people don't vote now ,make it more difficult and you will end up with 20% making decisions for everyone.Thats not a free democratic country.And I bet the teacher of your class would agree with me lol.

 

[D-rock]

Other than being an adult citizen I don't think there should be any other requirement. If the laws that elected officials are going to make are going to effect everybody then everybody should have the opportunity to choose who gets to create those laws.

I could also point out that I have known of many smart people that had a basic lack of common sense and vice versa where there were people that weren't as smart but still had a lot of common sense and wisdom they could draw on. It's amazing the number of people I have seen that were supposedly so smart, and because of that arrogant, that they never realized just how stupid they really were when it came to real life situations.

 

[LBP 76]

Those were among the ideas that were brought up. One I forgot in the poll: felon forfits any voting rights.

I'd be open to one vote per household, but would you not concur that the brightest in our society make informed, educated decisions on the behalf of this country, friday?

And assuming most voters are not above average intelligence, just how do you propose to get them to vote away their right to vote because they are too stupid?
Or will this just be imposed onto them?

 

[BlueBalls]

Communist!

I bet you don't have more than 6 GCSE's

(Your spelling gives it away)

Its nice to know your looking out for me brother or should I say comrade :hatsoff: Maybe I am a Communist, whats has it got to do with you?

If it makes you feel any better about yourself I sincerely apologise for my spelling, you know how it is you can not get it correct all of the time and on a porn forum what does it really matter as long as the point is put across :dunno:, and as for the GCSE's I dont know why its any business of yours but I have 8 to my name.

But what do the number of GCSE's matter to this thread anyway? Or is that just your way of putting someone down, well thank you sir may I have another.

"He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone...."

I suppose thats you? Well do not read any of my posts again comrade because I plan to continue to make spelling mistakes because us commoners cant have opinions on things can we.

Sorry sir, me and me Juley need money for weed and tings, can you spare sum change

Innit









Wait, have I spelt anything wrong (probably) I look forward to your next post to find out.

 

[LBP 76]

Communist!

I bet you don't have more than 6 GCSE's

(Your spelling gives it away)

If you are serious...what is your problem?

This is a porn forum. Who gives a fuck about spelling?

Er, sorry.

Which non-jerks give a fuck about spelling?

 

[ninetysixcavy]

Sure they probably make the best selections but that is no reason to say they are the only ones who can vote.The other people are citizens and have a stake and should have a vote as well.Hell if were going to go down that road we don't need votes at all just a select ruling group of intellectuals making all the decisions.

Actually, I think I kind of have to agree with you here. I guess what got me thinking on the matter was that it was publicized that people were paying the local homeless to vote on their behalf in my town back in 04'. But yeah, I think I agree it is a slipery slope and undemocratic now that I think about it. I still think one vote per household is appropriate. :2 cents:

 

[Tarface]

We already have more people voting for American Idol than for the presidency, so why drop that number even lower?

 

[Friday on my mind]

Actually, I think I kind of have to agree with you here. I guess what got me thinking on the matter was that it was publicized that people were paying the local homeless to vote on their behalf in my town back in 04'. But yeah, I think I agree it is a slipery slope and undemocratic now that I think about it. I still think one vote per household is appropriate. :2 cents:

Well the problem with that is again you are denying individual citizens a vote and smacks of a return to a time when only one person in the house did get to vote,the man.I know lots of people who are married that probably don't vote the same and then their grown kids who may still be at home are another problem.I just don't see how one vote per household is fair or workable.Mom is a democrate and dad is a republican and the 18 yr old kid wants to vote for Ron Paul or Nader,what then????:1orglaugh

But good thread ninetysix!:thumbsup:

 

[schoepserne]

Wait, have I spelt anything wrong (probably) I look forward to your next post to find out.

Get her!

If you are serious...what is your problem?
Which non-jerks give a fuck about spelling?

... and her, too!

I won't let you vote, if you can't detect sarcasm, girls!

 

[meesterperfect]

If I am correct I believe thats convicted felons can not vote.
Is this true?

I can make an arguement for people who have and/or are currently recieving social welfare within a period of time.

The reason being that not contributing is one thing, but if you are actually taking from society without contributing at all then you will be likely too vote for those who will only be more likely to continue giving you more free stuff.
With that once a large sector of society is on the 100% recieving end they will be a huge factor in the outcome of the election,therefore taking the country on a downward spiral until the camels back breaks.

But a law like this would be too contraversial, cause even more laws needed and is probably uncontstitutional.
so forgetaboutit.