Roe v. Wade
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"Abortion is completely illegal in the following countries: Aruba (territory), Dominican Republic, El Salvador, Haiti, Honduras, Jamaica, and Nicaragua" - to name a few. Mexico is NOT on that list. Similarly, in the US, NY and CA have written laws guaranteeing access to an abortion. NY and CA are some of the biggest markets / airports in the US, and air fares are cheap. For one of the exceptions listed - an abortion CAN be had, but travel is necessary.
Mr. Daystar
In a bell tower, watching you through cross hairs.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/phoenix-roe-abortion-supreme-court-protests-tear-gas-134242966.html
There gonna piss off the wrong crowd of women, and find out just how hardcore, and dedicated to a cause they can be, Not to mention using riot gear like that, is gonna get someone hurt eventually.
There gonna piss off the wrong crowd of women, and find out just how hardcore, and dedicated to a cause they can be, Not to mention using riot gear like that, is gonna get someone hurt eventually.
I looked briefly at these, and I wish there were a way for them to be used, as a counter to Roe, but I can't see how, without causing more grief.
I think you mean, YOUR country. You don't live here, remember?
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gmase
Nattering Nabob of Negativism
I never realized our legal system was aiming to be compared to the Dominican Republic, El Salvador, Haiti, et al. Reagan once called us a a ‘shining city on a hill’. Now we’re happy to be slightly better than Haiti?
This will be an interesting summer. Fortunately their ability to carry firearms is protected. How long before one of these gets really out of control?
Indeed, can't fuckin wait to merge this thread with the mass shootings one.
Mr. Daystar
In a bell tower, watching you through cross hairs.
Women don't do shit that way. They'll just run people down with their SUV's, or put something in the Kool-Aid. I know that makes you feel better, especially steve. we know how much he worries about other countries that he doesn't pay taxes, or vote in.
John_8581
FreeOnes Lifetime Member
What's wrong with the five judges here? Where they erred in their decision making process to overturn Roe vs. Wade is that they chose to decide using their consciences and religious beliefs rather than looking at hard facts and case law by use of prior decisions and precedent. That's what we were taught in law school. Precedent of case law rules over personal feelings and beliefs. If Roe vs. Wade (1973) or Planned Parenthood vs. Casey (1991) wasn't enough of a challenge for them then that is just plain wrong.
Associate Justice Clarence Thomas is said to be revisiting past United States Supreme Court decisions? That's very interesting. Let's rule on conscience rather than precedent and case law. I say hogwash and total garbage!
About Associate Justice Clarence Thomas. Yes, he was nominated by President George H.W. Bush in 1991. And yes, he was confirmed by the Senate in 1991. Has anyone ever looked into why he did indeed make it and he passed the confirmation hearings? Did the Senate err on the side of caution here? I mean they did not confirm President Ronald Reagan's choice of Associate Judge Robert Bork in 1987. And to have two Associate Supreme Court Justices here fail would have been a kick in the head for two great Republican Presidents and their Administrations in succession. Say what you will. Ronald Reagan was a great President. Possibly was George H.W. Bush? That's hard to say. We did have the Iran-Iraq Gulf War. That and the recession. Those pretty much killed his chances for re-election. Losing to Bill Clinton in November 1992. But for our sake, let's say that George H.W. Bush was a good President. Anyway, one did not make it. Robert Bork. One did. Clarence Thomas.
Since we are talking about precedent and case law ...
One last thing about Clarence Thomas -- "Coca Cola spokesman and pubic hair specialist" (see his confirmation hearing and Anita Hill's testimony) -- he should be impeached. Just like what American history did to Samuel Chase in 1805. The thing here was that the United States House of Representatives did impeach Samuel Chase but the United States Senate chose not to.
Hmmmm? Just like our # 45. Ex-President Donald Trump Sr. Uncanny. Isn't it?
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gmase
Nattering Nabob of Negativism
... and when they do, they end up with the accuracy of Sara Jane Moore.
Travel ? Women who NEED an abortion to get rid of the foetus they got from rape would be forced to TRAVEL thousand miles across the country to undergo abortion, would have to support the costs of such travel ?
1) You got raped
2) You need to throught abortion (wich is certainly not a walk in the park. Any abortion will leave a mark that will forever stay in your psyche) to get rid of the foetus they got from that rape
3) They would have to pay for the cost to travel to a state that would allow them to go through abortion.
My god, you must really hate women... .
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I'm pretty sure hewould be ok if things wouldn't be retro-active so he could keep his wife and his citizenship but other black folks wouldn't
For those who don't know :
Loving v. Virginia = interracial marriage
Scott v. Sangford = Citizenship for black folks
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That's right. The wheels turn slowly but they do turn!
Mr. Daystar
In a bell tower, watching you through cross hairs.
I meant on the scale of typical mass shootings. Woman do try to shoot people, I've just never heard of one doing it on a large scale.
Theopolis Q. Hossenffer
I am in America, not of it.
Yet....
Theopolis Q. Hossenffer
I am in America, not of it.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/world-shocked-outraged-saddened-overturning-185031296.html
If they think this is bad, just wait...
If they think this is bad, just wait...
Mr. Daystar
In a bell tower, watching you through cross hairs.
Actually I forgot about a teen aged girl that shot up an elementary school, across from her house. Bob Geldof wrote the song "I Don't Like Monday's", about it. Her name was Brenda Spencer, and Geldof regrets writing it, because she thanked him, for making her famous, or something to that effect. It happened in the 70's in Cali. She was sentenced to life, but I don't know if she's still alive or not.
Little Red Wagon Repairman
MFOMBSoPGA
I like to be different. I used to be crazy until I inherited money and became eccentric. I don't follow styles, trends, or movements. As far as this abortion deal I am neither Pro-Life nor Pro-Choice but Mandatory Abortion in special cases if the woman is either a hooker or a bum. If she can't find a place willing to put her frog in a blender my new concealed weapons permit might be of use.
Yeah I know. It's that weird empathy stuff that a lot of people in this country and you don't seem to have a grasp on.
Holly shit, you mean people can actually care about more than themselves and the group they belong to?
I just checked and it is indeed allowed. I know I was surprised too.Anyway I hope this whole issue exposes the idiotic nature of siding with the Christian Taliban for one's love of tax cuts for the rich and guns.
Mr. Daystar
In a bell tower, watching you through cross hairs.
Guns and tax cuts don't have much to do with politicizing morality. There is supposed to be a separation of church and state, meaning our state, isn't supposed to regulate religion, or morality. While I know most religions are hypocritical, there is a huge segment of our country that don't have a belief or a faith. They are effected by a morality judgment imposed on them, by a government that is clearly destroying that premise. I don't know why or where you ever got the idea I love the right, in fact I have clearly made several posts condemning them both. I also find it completely ridicules that you label me as someone who is selfish, and uncaring because I don't have a short sighted view on gun grabbing, or live under the delusion that because I won't grab a torch and join the angry mob, equates with a total lack of concern for the violence and aftermath of such tragedies. I simply believe other avenues should be explored before the rope is thrown over the tree limb. Now, back to the issue at hand.Yeah I know. It's that weird empathy stuff that a lot of people in this country and you don't seem to have a grasp on.
Holly shit, you mean people can actually care about more than themselves and the group they belong to?
Anyway I hope this whole issue exposes the idiotic nature of siding with the Christian Taliban for one's love of tax cuts for the rich and guns.
If I understand this correctly, abortion will not be illegal in all states, and it's up to the state to decide. If that is correct, then I urge people to start ASAP, in writing to politicians in your state, for or against, offering support, or informing of dissatisfaction. I learned many years ago, when Ohio was trying to pass a helmet law, that politicians, or political organizations look at every HAND WRITTEN letter, as representing apx. 25 voters. Now a days they have on-line form letters you can finish up with your personal info, which they require you to fill out to send it, so I don't know if the hand written letter still counts for as many, but I would suggest doing just that. My wife id looking into it for our state, being our governor is a little to right for my liking. I'm pretty sure if you go on line you can find out how to reach any of them fairly easily. The actual politician won't see it, but their staff will, and they will know the numbers before they make choices.
That's correct, and emphasized in the decision. It's different from saying that SCOTUS banning abortions.
That said, there are more than several states that have laws ready to go & were waiting for the decision.
IMO, even in those states, I have to question if they would really prosecute the exceptional cases. So "no brainer" cases like rape & incest pregnancies. Would a prosecutor go ahead in pressing charges? Would a judge convict? And would a governor not grant clemency if she were convicted?
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