Ripping Into FDR

[acenipplelicker]

as long as fdr is the topic

FDR had one of his sinus problems on dec 7 1941 and that afternoon the white house logs show a visit by his dr.
we do not know what treatment he got but it was common in the day to make something like a long q tip and swab the sinus tissues throught the nose
one of the counpoumds customerially used in the medicine was *******.

I got this from one of my( as trump wpuld say) SHOWS

as a sidem issue he was trying to contact mccarthur all day to warn him of the ****** and to be prepared.
he did get in contact eventually

the general and admiral in charge at pearl got **** for parking the planes wing tip to wing tip to avoid vandalism from locals and being unprepared.

When they attacked the phillipeans the planes were parked wing tip to wing tip and mccarthur seemsd to skate free on that one-- though he was a good general

 

[Johan]

Dude. 1:08, "FDR sat rubbing his hands thinking about all the people he could ****." Which came first, Hiter's aggression or American intervention? Accusing FDR of wanting to **** people is a fundamentally flawed perspective considering that Germany declared war pretty much on the world. I might watch some of that video, but it seems you just enjoy wasting people's time with logically flawed propaganda.

The most "funny" part is that I'm pretty sure he considers H. Truman as good guy, that he thinks Truman made the right choice.
Germany declares war to the US, FDR retaliates by bombing Germany and the countrys they were occupying, therefore he's a war criminal
Japan declare war to the US, Truman retaliates by dropping to nukes on Japan, therefore he is a war hero
:dunno:

I don't say dropping the nukes was a bad call, I just say that you can't celebrate Truman for taking that decision and, at the same time, blame FDR for bombing Germany

 

[BoboBrowne]

Just another nut on the internet, what else is new?

I'll argue with a conservative, but "FDR liked to **** people" and blaming German concentration camp deaths on Allied powers...yeah...I just tune those people out.

 

[meesterperfect]

Hostility? Naw, just cheap amusement. Mr. HexenHammer is into magicK, that should really tell you all you need to know about his world-view.

Ok good.
I've watched the guys political commentarys for a long time.
He knows what he's talking about and he knows more than any of the paid liars in the msm.
But you know more than him and you know more than me about everything so thats that.

 

[meesterperfect]

Just another nut on the internet, what else is new?

I'll argue with a conservative, but "FDR liked to **** people" and blaming German concentration camp deaths on Allied powers...yeah...I just tune those people out.

Another expert from the public school system.

How do you know what was in FDR's head?
It is fact the US Targeted civilian cities like Dresden and others and carpet bombed them for days on end. Literally incinerating 10's of thousands of human beings alive.
They targeted and ****** civilians, fucking little **** who tried to flee and ****** them too by the thousands.
Those were not acts of war. Those were mass ******* and war crimes.
Those were not accidents. Those were intentional mass ******* civilians of ******** by your great country and your great prez.
I know that may be too much for you to comprehend, after all we are the greatest country in the world right?

So I would say that if FDR did these things time and time again that it sure would appear that he liked it or at best didnt give a fuck about ******* a few hundred thousand civilians on purpose.

As far as blaming All concentration deaths on the allies he didnt say that either.
Common sense shows that if prison camps are without food or fuel for an entire ****** winter that come April you are going to have a lot of dead prisoners and a lot of very sick ones who look like hell.

If anybody actually watched the video instead of tuning out right after they heard something that they perceived as going against what they were brainwashed into believing by the public school system and hollywood it was clear that the main point of the commentary was that Roosevelt gets too much credit. He wasnt a great president and probably an eletist bastard.

It was the work ethic of American People combined with the fact that European industry was nearly decimated after the war that created the big post war economic boom in the USA andthat Roosevelts policys had little to do with it.

But you all know better. Youre an expert because you went to public school and the blogger doesnt know anything because he look funny.

 

[meesterperfect]

The most "funny" part is that I'm pretty sure he considers H. Truman as good guy, that he thinks Truman made the right choice.
Germany declares war to the US, FDR retaliates by bombing Germany and the countrys they were occupying, therefore he's a war criminal
Japan declare war to the US, Truman retaliates by dropping to nukes on Japan, therefore he is a war hero
:dunno:

I don't say dropping the nukes was a bad call, I just say that you can't celebrate Truman for taking that decision and, at the same time, blame FDR for bombing Germany

you didnt even watch the video.
Andcheck some of those historical facts as to who declared war on who.
And he is no fan of Truman either, I dont know why you would assume that.

 

[acenipplelicker]

Curtis lemay said had we lost ww2 some would have faced charges at the hague for usa fire bombing tokyo

 

[pool_hustler]

Andcheck some of those historical facts as to who declared war on who.

Johan is right. Germany declared was on us first.
And though Japan's "official" declaration of war against us came the same day as ours against them (Dec 8), the sunken and smoldering wrecks in Pearl Harbor the day previous obviously indicated an emphatic declaration of war by Japan on the 7th.

It is fact the US Targeted civilian cities like Dresden and others and carpet bombed them for days on end. Literally incinerating 10's of thousands of human beings alive.

Dresden wasn't simply a "civilian city". It also hosted munitions works, a **** government hub and was a major transportation point.

And we've been over this point before: starting long before the U.S. air campaign the German Luftwaffe engaged in all kinds of ****** bombing of major civilian centers in many nations resulting in hundreds of thousands of deaths, so why aren't you condemning them as well?

 

[acenipplelicker]

I thought the Japanese declaration came dec 7 and few mins after the bombing-they intended to declare b 4 for honorable reason but a mistake was made by japan

Germany declared on the 7 th or 8th I believe- fdr hoped hitler would declare war on us and was not sure of it
hitler made a mistake by declaring and allowing the usa to declare war also on Germany.

if hitler had not made that mistake we would have only had a declared war w japan. fdr not sure if us citizens wanted to ****** Germany also
fdr wanted to defeat Germany first

 

[xfire]

you didnt even watch the video.
Andcheck some of those historical facts as to who declared war on who.
And he is no fan of Truman either, I dont know why you would assume that.

I'm not going to bother looking it up, I know for a fact that after Pearl Harbor was "fire bombed" or whatever the fuck you want to call it, Germany immediately declared war on the United States. Yes, the fact that Mr. HexenHammer believes in magicK makes him a fruit loop and calls into question his mental stability, do yourself a favor and don't associate with fruitcakes.

 

[acenipplelicker]

I'm not going to bother looking it up, I know for a fact that after Pearl Harbor was "fire bombed" or whatever the fuck you want to call it, Germany immediately declared war on the United States. Yes, the fact that Mr. HexenHammer believes in magicK makes him a fruit loop and calls into question his mental stability, do yourself a favor and don't associate with fruitcakes.

fire bombing is what the us did to Tokyo
bombs designed to burn completely wooded structures and create a fire storm

pearl harbor was a conventional bombing
bombs desidned to pierce through the decks and hit munitions and flammable material
and if aircraft carriers present make holes in flight desk
torpedos pierce sides of ships
blow up fuel tanks
blow up aircraft and damage run ways

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I'm not going to bother looking it up, I know for a fact that after Pearl Harbor was "fire bombed" or whatever the fuck you want to call it, Germany immediately declared war on the United States. Yes, the fact that Mr. HexenHammer believes in magicK makes him a fruit loop and calls into question his mental stability, do yourself a favor and don't associate with fruitcakes.

fire bombing is what the us did to Tokyo
bombs designed to burn completely wooded structures and create a fire storm

pearl harbor was a conventional bombing
bombs desidned to pierce through the decks and hit munitions and flammable material
and if aircraft carriers present make holes in flight desk
torpedos pierce sides of ships
blow up fuel tanks
blow up aircraft and damage run ways

 

[xfire]

**** still gets destroyed, either way.

 

[acenipplelicker]

fire bombing pearl harbor would no be effective in sinking ships or metal thing necessarily

fire bombing Tokyo- the houses were made of bamboo and ALL WOOD components
start a fire and it spreads fast and fire crews cant keep
up


bombing a house destroys a house or a few houses- a fire bomb destroys hundreds as the fire spreads
the fire is the destroying agent not so much an expolsion

 

[Johan]

you didnt even watch the video.
And check some of those historical facts as to who declared war on who.
And he is no fan of Truman either, I dont know why you would assume that.

Actually, the Us declared war against Japan before Germany's declaration of war against the US. But it doesn't matter 'cause since there was very few coperation between Japan and Germany, Germany could have stayed neutral, just like Jpan did when Germany declared war on Russia. Japan never attacked Russia, never even declared war against Russia.
The US never declared war against Germany, they only declared war against Japan on December 8th. Then, on Dember 1tth, Italy and Germany declared war against the US.

Learn your country's History

 

[Ace Boobtoucher]

I'll give it a shot. FDR was a cock-chugging, ****** marrying, closet socialist who extended the Great Depression needlessly. Furthermore, he never knew the value of a dollar or an honest day's work, having lived his entire life on an allowance. But at least he was white.

 

[meesterperfect]

I'll give it a shot. FDR was a cock-chugging, ****** marrying, closet socialist who extended the Great Depression needlessly. Furthermore, he never knew the value of a dollar or an honest day's work, having lived his entire life on an allowance. But at least he was white.

Cool. Maybe the best post of thread.

Like I said before some people heard something in the video that may not support the official story of the prison camp deaths to a degree, and my friend began mocking him over the other things he's interested in therefore he knows nothing........oops, run on sentence. Stop.

I'm into comics. Blue chip comics. Doesnt know I dont know anything about making pancakes and eggs for breakfast.
This is primarily a porn site. Ol' Styx could easily say we dont know **** about ****. That would be an unfair assumption I believe.

Anyway the main point of the subject was that maybe FR gets too much credit. Maybe other things were the cause of the big boom after the war which FDR was not responsible for at all. Plus other things about him that may or may not be true.

He did say at the end that Teddy Roosevelt was a great PREZ.

 

[acenipplelicker]

the last 3 words should be- "he looks funny* for proper grammer
mr perfect

 

[meesterperfect]

I wrote it like that on purpose.

 

[zeeblofowl_1969]

Guy was elected 4 times apperantly he was doing something right.
GOP should not throw stones they elected Nixon....(crook) Bush/Reagan(**** dealers)
W (complete moron)

 

[acenipplelicker]

whether you agreed w him he was a good LEADER