First of all you can't compare murder with illegal immigration. That's weak.
Secondly, most people here, if not all, break the law sometimes. Run stop signs, drive above the speed limit, use weed, download music or photos on the internet... etc... so we're all so "wrong" by your perfect standards. If you are one of those very rare individuals who has never done any of the above, you are in the extreme minority my friend.
Thirdly, laws change. That's what the immigrants are fighting for, here. Once it's no longer illegal then, you can no longer complain right
And fourthly, I have broken the law so very very many times. I try not to do it any more except traffic laws. And I can still look in the mirror at night and say I'm a decent man... I care about people, the environment, animals. It's illegal to give food from a grocery store to homeless people instead of throwing it out, I say fuck that law, you know.
I came to America as an illegal immigrant. After a lot of living covertly and being worried about my ass, I realized - they don't care. They want me here, earning low wages and all that. I stopped worrying. After awhile I was here long enough and got a sponsor and applied for residency and got it. They said, you can't get residency if you entered and stayed on a visa waiver, cause it's illegal. So what did I do? I saved up for a really good immigration lawyer. And I paid him. And he found a loophole. And he told me, if you have the money, you can become an American resident in months no matter what your story. If you have the money. Because there are so many holes in the immigration laws, and contradictions. And the better the lawyer, the faster he will get you the residency, and the more he or she will charge you. In the real world, laws are broken constantly. I feel sorry for all the ones who could never afford the 4,000 dollars plus I paid for my lawyer. Even without a lawyer all the forms and what not cost well over a thousand, and then they will potentially be declined with no possibility of a refund. The lawyers guarantee success otherwise (some of them) do not charge you, except for a small hiring fee. That is because they know they will get the application processed, because they know that the "law" is just to keep the poorer illegals ILLEGAL, and not to keep them OUT. On the contrary, our economy is massively dependent on illegal immigrants, and I think that sucks for them because it's akin to slave labor compared to the rights the rest of us have.
I'm now a proud (somewhat proud) and fully-fledged US citizen otherwise I wouldn't be discussing this. I wanted to move to this country and there was no other way, so I did it. I don't respect national boundaries, I have always believed that all of the world belongs to all of us and to none of us, and I stick my middle finger up to immigration laws and I say to the world, if you want to come to America, come, as an illegal you will be invisible and shit on, but you will not, ever, unless you are wickedly unlucky, be sent back home. There were so many times I could have been... never was. Thank goodness.
I may break the laws from time to time but at least I am 100% honest about it.
It's all of our country. Get over it. It belongs to them and you. Whatever language you speak, whatever the bastard Republicans may say about what our official language is, whatever country you hail from, whatever the colour of your skin, America is your country if you live here and work here and call it home, or at least temporary or new home. It always has been, always will be. Statements like yours, don't you see, are divisive rather than integral. Why is it necessary to divide by race? Do you think those divisions are more "comfortable" as you put it, for the races or nationalities that have to live in poverty and look up at the white Americans on the hill with the palaces and mansions and all the money? Not really. Division only ever breeds racism and resentment and lack of cross-cultural knowledge. We are moving away from that and mixing together into a mosaic more than ever these days, thank god.
Being pushed off the land by who? When was the last time you were pushed off your land? Does seeing nonwhites or nonEnglish speakers all over the place make you feel like you're being pushed off your land? It's all in your head, I promise you. No-one's pushing you anywhere. If you're white and male and American born and straight the world is your oyster. The statistics show you are hundreds of times more likely to be a million dollar earner than a female black/hispanic non American born homosexual, or any combination of those "undesirable" traits (sic).
We did kill the natives, yes, through disease and destruction. But you know what? The Mexicans killed the Aztecs too. And the Mexicans used to own all that land you feel like you're being "pushed off". They were pushed off it too. Now they just want to move back and share it, who are you to really tell them no? They're not wielding weapons now, they're willing to work. I say let them be. My other post on the other thread really covers it all:
The prison population are 99% from poor backgrounds. A huge percentage of the poor people in the southwest are hispanics, either immigrants, or American born hispanics, or illegals... the vast vast majority of hispanics aren't comitting crimes and going to jail, just like the vast majority of any ethnic demographic. What's more, THAT land used to belong to them, and before that it belonged to the Plains Indians and the Aztecs, and as far as I'm concerned those Mexicans have as much of a right to California and New Mexico and Texas and Arizona as any of us do, and I welcome them coming in as much as they please, we have WAY too much here to go around, and even though Mexico has more than almost any other latin country and is comparatively rich, they are practically third world when compared with what we have here, of COURSE they want to come here, and I welcome them completely. I don't mind sharing. America was never built with the intentions of having closed doors, and we have less people per square mile than most countries, and more money per person than virtually ANY country, so if any country can support endless immigration it's THIS one, I say keep them coming, and the sooner we open the doors the better.
Most people don't want to leave home, so anyone who thinks opening the borders would create a mass exodus from everywhere else is deluisional and self-aggrandizing... home is home, and most people don't want to leave home unless there are extremely harsh conditions.
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