Rap ?

[Black Star]

I can't believe DJ Kool Herc hasn't been mentioned. This guy virtually invented Rap - Bambaataa and other early rap/hip-hop pioneers all practically acknowledged that they got started after seeing Herc in action. IMO, Herc had the biggest impact since he kicked it off.

Bambaataa's "Planet Rock" showed the world that rap was here to stay (I still consider it one of the most important records released in the 1980s), and Grandmaster Flash's "The Message" showed that rap wasn't just a "novelty" (like how SugarHill Gang & Kurtis Blow were received),

Also, the early unsung pioneers like DJ Red Alert & Grandmaster Caz deserve respect due....:thumbsup:

Why can't I give rep?!?!??!?!?

 

[poggy]

I can't believe DJ Kool Herc hasn't been mentioned. This guy virtually invented Rap - Bambaataa and other early rap/hip-hop pioneers all practically acknowledged that they got started after seeing Herc in action. IMO, Herc had the biggest impact since he kicked it off.

Bambaataa's "Planet Rock" showed the world that rap was here to stay (I still consider it one of the most important records released in the 1980s), and Grandmaster Flash's "The Message" showed that rap wasn't just a "novelty" (like how SugarHill Gang & Kurtis Blow were received),

Also, the early unsung pioneers like DJ Red Alert & Grandmaster Caz deserve respect due....:thumbsup:

Yeah DJ Kool Herc was one of the first om3ga,but he was more of a DJ giving air time to the others than doing things himself.He was like a early promoter for them.But as you say he also had talent of his own and appeared many times with the other artists as well as his solo work.

 

[9inch]

No problem,that is why I said Kurtis Blow he's the man who brought rap mainstream an also had a hand in bring some of the best early rap stars through.Examples -

Run DMC :bowdown:
Grandmaster Flash
Melle Mel
LL Cool J
Doug E Fresh
Afrika Bambaataa :bowdown:

To name but a few.Rapper's Delight by The Sugarhill Gang was the first major hit in rap music though.

I can't believe DJ Kool Herc hasn't been mentioned. This guy virtually invented Rap - Bambaataa and other early rap/hip-hop pioneers all practically acknowledged that they got started after seeing Herc in action. IMO, Herc had the biggest impact since he kicked it off.

Bambaataa's "Planet Rock" showed the world that rap was here to stay (I still consider it one of the most important records released in the 1980s), and Grandmaster Flash's "The Message" showed that rap wasn't just a "novelty" (like how SugarHill Gang & Kurtis Blow were received),

Also, the early unsung pioneers like DJ Red Alert & Grandmaster Caz deserve respect due....:thumbsup:

I can't add more to these posts, it explain why I voted "other"
Dre & Ice cube are just asshole imo compared with DJs & MCs poggy and om3ga stated :thefinger

 

[poggy]

Then theres the ladies,they had a lot tougher job.Early ladies such as -

Lisa B
Roxanne Shante
The Real Roxanne
Salt N Pepper

To name some off the top off my head.It was a real male dominated world when they was around.

 

[Sweeper]

KRS One, Big Daddy Kane, etc etc...

 

[Incentive]

Tupac because he was the greatest rapper of all time.

 

[Priapus]

I completely forgot you leave in the UK, that's even more impressive.

I personally never got into commercial rap. I'm a little young for 70s rap, but I did my best to listen to all "old school music". I always preferred conscious rap though. Guys like Talib Kweli, Mos Def, A Trible Called Quest and Common are much more to my liking than 50 Cent.

Public Enemy also were conscience rap artists.

 

[Michelle_Akemi]

Tupac because he was the greatest rapper of all time.

Biggy was better, Pac just had better stuff to say.

 

[Sweeper]

Biggy was better, Pac just had better stuff to say.

I believe you are correct. Biggie was a much better emcee, in terms of rhyming and lyricism. Pac was more of a story teller.

 

[ChrisSimms#2]

Poggy just blew my mind with that info.. I mean, I already knew it. But the fact they he knew it surprised me.. I also, would rep you if I could. shucks.


Either way, I voted other. To be honest, all three of those former N.W.A. members wouldn't have it the way they did without the rappers of the late 70's and early 80's.

Chris whats up, do you have two accounts you are posting with here?

what are u talkin about two accounts i only have one and nwa started in the late 80's and they did start on there own. Public Enemy rewrote the rules of hardcore rap by proving that it could be intelligent, revolutionary and socially aware, N.W.A. capitalized on PE's sonic breakthroughs while ignoring their message and did what they wanted to say and do.

 

[love_tha_sweet]

clearly Dre. as a producer he's had an impact through other people's records. Eminem & 50cent are two of the biggest rappers around at the moment and Dre's behind them both...

Don't forget Dre also got Snoop on the map.

 

[lovethedawgs]

I saw a rap show a year or so ago with Big Daddy Kane, Slick Rick and Dana Dane. Awesome performers and a great show.
For me, you have to look at East Coast guys like Rakim, KRS-One, Kane, Public Enemy, etc. Those guys laid a foundation that unfortunately is overlooked by so many of today's "Rap" stars.

 

[om3ga]

Then theres the ladies,they had a lot tougher job.Early ladies such as -

Lisa B
Roxanne Shante
The Real Roxanne
Salt N Pepper

To name some off the top off my head.It was a real male dominated world when they was around.

Don't forget MC Lyte & a certain Queen Latifah......:thumbsup:

 

[love_tha_sweet]

Out of the NWA members(since this is what the topic is about) I would say Easy-E really made NWA popular. He was the first out of the group to put out a solo tape. Those that didn't know about gangsta rap and NWA became more aware after Easy-E's debut.

Ice Cube which was the first member to break off from the group made many more people aware of NWA, Compton, and gangsta Rap whan he played in Boyz N Da Hood.

Dre was the one who really blew up in the rap industry. Cube is more popular for his actor roles. Dre is famous for rap and producing rappers. However I really don't think Dre would've blown up like he did if he didn't have Snoop Dog on his debut album. Cube really didn't diss the NWA members on his first tape when he broke off from NWA. Dre dissed the hell out of E on The Chronic and E had his turn stomping on Dre and Snoop. Suge Knight really got Dre to where he is now an Dre got his rappers where they are now.

 

[love_tha_sweet]

Biggy was better, Pac just had better stuff to say.

everyone is entitled to one's own opinion but I have to disagree. I am not here to diss those resting in peace, but Biggie sounded he was about to run out of breath everytime he flowed in a long verse. Pac could go at in non stop if he wanted to.

 

[Black Star]

I really wish I had been born earlier, so that I could've been around when rap emerged. To have the privilege of owning one of those "I was around back when..." stories. Unfortunately, by the time I got into rap, it was the late 90s, and the genre has been in a pretty steady decline to commercialism.

 

[freeonesfan12]

I heard that Blondie was the first one to have a rap song (Rapture), but I voted for Dr. Dre.

 

[BNF]

I heard that Blondie was the first one to have a rap song (Rapture), but I voted for Dr. Dre.

Sugar Hill Gang usually gets that credit. (As a mainstream rap "song")

 

[Sweeper]

Commercial Rap is retarded. Anyone else see that latest interview with Chuck D? He was blasting the entire music industry.

 

[Michelle_Akemi]

everyone is entitled to one's own opinion but I have to disagree. I am not here to diss those resting in peace, but Biggie sounded he was about to run out of breath everytime he flowed in a long verse. Pac could go at in non stop if he wanted to.

Physique has nothing to do with flow, skill and beats.