Prescribed heroin (!)

LBP 76 said:
If your point Torre82min is that heroin addicts are not to be blamed or held responsible for their addiction I am going to always disagree with you.
*****, pills, tobacco, ********, sex, porn, binge eating, overwork, danger...all of these are addictions people can fall into.
But not heroin.

As I said before, find me one heroine addict (especially in 'the West') who was not aware it was very addictive before they started. I doubt you can.
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Jerry Garcia
John McCain
Jonas the Whale
Blueballs
Leroy Jenkins
The whole roster for the 1976 Celtics and..

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Torre82min said:
Jerry Garcia
John McCain
Jonas the Whale
Blueballs
Leroy Jenkins
The whole roster for the 1976 Celtics and..

Premium Link Upgrade (There's like 8000 of them on the board!)
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Hey!!! I washed you hair man! And I shaved your sack :bawling: I thought we were brothers. You even let me do that thing.........I wont talk about it on here but I beleived that brought us together in the most special way possible.

Anyway, back to my heroin addiction, I knew it was addictive but I did it anyway, I wanted to escape the horrors of my *********, you see I saw the priests asshole on more than one occasion, mainly when my little tounge was inside it (you see what you make me type (thats so wrong :D)) and heroin was my only escape.


Boo-hoo-hoo :bawling:
 
BlueBalls said:
Hey!!! I washed you hair man! And I shaved your sack :bawling: I thought we were brothers. You even let me do that thing.........I wont talk about it on here but I beleived that brought us together in the most special way possible.

Anyway, back to my heroin addiction, I knew it was addictive but I did it anyway, I wanted to escape the horrors of my *********, you see I saw the priests asshole on more than one occasion, mainly when my little tounge was inside it (you see what you make me type (thats so wrong :D)) and heroin was my only escape.


Boo-hoo-hoo :bawling:
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Sooo... does that make me the priest or a fellow altar-jew? (Posing among the jesusites as a faithful lamb of the fluck!)
 
Will E Worm said:
Jerry Garcia struggled with a heroin addiction.

His **** addiction is the main reason he died.
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Well, he died of a heart ****** at a rehab clinic.

And I don't mean to be insensitive to the guy (I have some 'Deadhead' friends). But a true heroin addict cannot be fat. Hardcore addicts are rarely hungry because the **** suppresses your appetite. He probably 'binge' used.
But that is just my opinion.
 
jamrak said:
1. I think that total amount of people taking ***** increase when it will be legal.

2. The amount of people who walk the street, drive the car and do other usual things on ***** will be MUCH bigger than now. Because nowadays most of people affraid to do it openly. When it is legal - no one will affraid to do it. It will increase the amount of *********** people in many times. Do not you see a problem in that? When you drive a car, and then see that some guy starts to jump on the road in front of you, or falls ****** at the wheel after heroine *********. There are already a lot of alcoholics who act this way, but with legal ***** new group of people who will start to bring that troubles.

3. I already said about it in the previous post, but how do you think it can be regulated: if heroine is legal, and there is no law against it, everybody can take it everywhere. In the park, in the autobus. At the beach. Or should be there any speical regualtions of how and where you can take it? Who will control it? The police? How do you imagine that? Will it be more easy than when ***** are completely ******? Like "hey, man, get your syringe away, do not do it here, do it there"? Instead of *******, it does not have a smell. When a bus driver arrives at his work in the morning after heroine *********, how could you test him? "No ***** at workplace"? Easy to say, hard to do. When you can buy them legally in ****-store. And when some of them have long period of influence. And have accumulative effect upon the organism (slower reaction, retardation etc).
And this is only heroine. What about hallucinations? People can start shooting in what they seem to see. do they shoot nowadays? yes. But again, the amout of people, who will openly use ***** will increase. And the amount of actions aroused by hallucinations will increase either.

Well, in other words, do you agree that nowadays there are more ******* people in the streets than people on *****? I am dare to say that is like that just because ******* is legal, and ***** are not. Imagine that one day there will be the same amount of people who got high, as people who are *****. Roughly, twice more uncontrolled people. Isn't it a bigger problem for normal citizens, who will have to live among those "high" individuals, and how can they be ready for their unpredicted actions?
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I agree with you on almost everything, jamark.

My only point is that the whole legal/******* debate isnt the good one to have regarding mind-altering substances.

Those ***** are going to be used, regardless of their legal status. Even nowadays, a huge part of the crimes are done while the criminals are using mind-altering substances. We could be surprised how many car accidents, nowadays, happend while drivers are "stone".

Our societies have to find a way to handle the fact that those substances are always going to be there. And we have no practical solutions yet.
 
LBP 76 said:
Well, he died of a heart ****** at a rehab clinic.

And I don't mean to be insensitive to the guy (I have some 'Deadhead' friends). But a true heroin addict cannot be fat. Hardcore addicts are rarely hungry because the **** suppresses your appetite. He probably 'binge' used.
But that is just my opinion.
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***** can effect the heart worse than anything.

Once you're addicted it doesn't matter how "fat" you are.

Garcia was an addicted well before his weight gain.
 
Will E Worm said:
***** can effect the heart worse than anything.

Once you're addicted it doesn't matter how "fat" you are.

Garcia was an addicted well before his weight gain.
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I have no reason to doubt this.

As far as Jerry Garcia, I shall defer to your and Torre82min' greater knowledge then I.
:)
 
LBP 76 said:
No offense man, but throwing back a drink or downing a pill are miles away from shooting heroin. Please find me one heroin addict who did not know beforehand that it is VERY addictive. I've never known one. They all did, but they were all just too desperate, too arrogant or too depressed to care.
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Did you go to high school? I'm asking because I could just walk into a high school cafeteria, point to some random people and, chances are, they would fit into that exact category.

There are a lot of people who try ***** without fully understanding their addictive power. It's no different than an immature high school *** picking up his first **** and drinking it, not knowing that 20 years later he would be drinking a case of **** everyday just to avoid the shakes.
 
ChefChiTown said:
Did you go to high school? I'm asking because I could just walk into a high school cafeteria, point to some random people and, chances are, they would fit into that exact category.

There are a lot of people who try ***** without fully understanding their addictive power. It's no different than an immature high school *** picking up his first **** and drinking it, not knowing that 20 years later he would be drinking a case of **** everyday just to avoid the shakes.
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You are saying the average American high scool student is completely unaware that heroin is a dangerous and addictive
narcotic? I have more faith in their 'life knowledge' then you do.
Find me a user who was unaware of it's addictive properties before they began and I will stand corrected. Until then, I won't.
 
He doesn't say that "without fully understanding their addictive power". They know its addictive but they think they can handle it ( something like that ).

For example people stunting , they know its dangerous but still do it.
 
LBP 76 said:
You are saying the average American high scool student is completely unaware that heroin is a dangerous and addictive
narcotic? I have more faith in their 'life knowledge' then you do.
Find me a user who was unaware of it's addictive properties before they began and I will stand corrected. Until then, I won't.
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The average American high school student is a moron. Books don't teach you **** when it comes to real life and things like **** addiction or ******* *****.

If the average American high school student was honestly aware of the dangers involved with taking *****...they wouldn't be taking *****.

Yes, the average American high school student might have heard people talk about the addiction risk with taking *****, but that doesn't mean they know about addiction or even understand it. I knew that ******* was addicting before I had my first ****, but I didn't know that ******* was addicting.

:2 cents:

Timbobjambo said:
He doesn't say that "without fully understanding their addictive power". They know its addictive but they think they can handle it ( something like that ).

For example people stunting , they know its dangerous but still do it.
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Ok, I'll bite...what the fuck is STUNTING? :dunno:
 
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