Political Strategy 101 Did McCain Blew it?
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masterbation is a sin. all republicans know that
Hopefully Obama will give Ayers the newly invented job of "Cross-Party Relations Administrator" where his job will be to deal with republican malcontents who oppose democratic legistlation.
And by "deal" I mean stab repeatedly with an ice pick.
The fact that I don't agree with your position on this issue does not mean that I have forgotten what you said. Again, many politicians "play politics" and every voter understands "it's called politics". Where we disagree is that you believe it is acceptable. Where we disagree is that you believe that the ends justify the means. That politics is a "tough game" so therefore it is acceptable to spout whatever biased nonsense it takes to win. Anything we choose to forget is simply "forgotten". Whine about only those ads that oppose your particular viewpoint. If you are on the left (defend the left and ignore all else) if you are on the right (defend the right and ignore all else).
It is therefore acceptable to you for Biden to change his positions simply to achieve his political aspirations.
This goes directly against Obama's message of unity and integrity.
Not everyone agrees with your view on this.
Under this distorted view, Sarah Palin shouldn't have turned in her fellow Republicans on the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission. After all, there are corrupt Democrats. The ends justify the means right? Politics is a nasty game right? Their team , our team, right? Fortunately not every politician agrees with you on this.
Romney on the other hand has been widely accused of shifting his positions to suit a more conservative national audience (as opposed to the more liberal Massachusetts). This is perhaps a large part of the reason he lost. Do you defend Romney on this? Of course not. Because for you politics and government is just a game of tit-for-tat. I simply disagree. Even if that is how politics is waged. It is the people's responsibility to ensure that it is not.
Looke here folks!! Could it be real or not real? Let the dirt digging begin!
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You think I am that stupid, right?:1orglaugh You shouldn't :nono:because I understand everything what is said to me. You always portrait and victimize the "poor" Obama so I guess I can't expect much from you.
Obama is not a Christian contrarily to what he claims but a wahabi muslim which is something very dangerous for the USA. Most of the people he had recruited for the foreign affairs in his side are very anti semitic and let's not forget to mention that "dear" Obama helped to finance a branch of the PLO with Mr.Khalidi. The connection with Ayers has been clearly confirmed because in one of the links of the vids I posted Obama said: "I think we didn't do enough" and that was concerning the attacks of the Weathermen terrorists. Once a friend of a terrorist remains always a friend of a terrorist.
Why do some conservatives continue to embarrass themselves by making these kind of assertions? I just don't get it. It seems so masochistic :dunno:
Intelligent, slightly crazed, and biased for your side. But for the sake of the argument, sure we'll call ya stupid! j/k I think this topic should lighten up before the new OR old mods put a 'close' on it and we all go to bed with no closure on the topics at hand.
Obama is one complicated guy. He associates with a little of this, little of that.. experience over here, a degree from there.. he's all over the place. Some of it questionable, sure.
Many of us see this man see him as a new beginning. Hell, if it makes you feel any better those of us that vote for him just hope he can get a few things done before somebody tries to assassinate him - and succeeds.
Once a friend of a terrorist, always a friend? No offense but.. you sound like one of the commie hunters of the cold war era with that one, George. Presidents/senators/diplomats/important bastids (lol) have also met with terrorists and helped fund their activities during certain days like when Russia was bombing the hell out of Afghanistan and.. well, no need to dredge up the facts that we pretty much MADE the situation and later pleaded innocent when the situation brought down two of our buildings. The CIA openly admits to funding various regimes if it benefits them at the time.
One needs barely draw lines between Bin Ladin and American funding during years prior to 2001. But, ahem.. that's beside the point. Beside it with a dirty bomb and a detonator.
Terrorists brought the republicans 2 terms in office recently, so do you really want to call out terrorists as a bad thing?So he's part of a secret organization. So what? GWB and many others are part of secret clubs.. are they any less dubious? I hate to say it, but.. getting into politics is like realizing the American dream.. you cant do it without 'shadowy', sketchy help. Heh, that's biting us in our ass right now. The american dream was an affordable home with a white picket fence and.. oh.. shit, was that mortgage bullshit? Did the economy just topple backwards because of shadowy, sketchy lending on a nationwide scale?
Intelligent, slightly crazed, and biased for your side. But for the sake of the argument, sure we'll call ya stupid! j/k I think this topic should lighten up before the new OR old mods put a 'close' on it and we all go to bed with no closure on the topics at hand.
Obama is one complicated guy. He associates with a little of this, little of that.. experience over here, a degree from there.. he's all over the place. Some of it questionable, sure.
Many of us see this man see him as a new beginning. Hell, if it makes you feel any better those of us that vote for him just hope he can get a few things done before somebody tries to assassinate him - and succeeds.
Once a friend of a terrorist, always a friend? No offense but.. you sound like one of the commie hunters of the cold war era with that one, George. Presidents/senators/diplomats/important bastids (lol) have also met with terrorists and helped fund their activities during certain days like when Russia was bombing the hell out of Afghanistan and.. well, no need to dredge up the facts that we pretty much MADE the situation and later pleaded innocent when the situation brought down two of our buildings. The CIA openly admits to funding various regimes if it benefits them at the time.
One needs barely draw lines between Bin Ladin and American funding during years prior to 2001. But, ahem.. that's beside the point. Beside it with a dirty bomb and a detonator.
So he's part of a secret organization. So what? GWB and many others are part of secret clubs.. are they any less dubious? I hate to say it, but.. getting into politics is like realizing the American dream.. you cant do it without 'shadowy', sketchy help. Heh, that's biting us in our ass right now. The american dream was an affordable home with a white picket fence and.. oh.. shit, was that mortgage bullshit? Did the economy just topple backwards because of shadowy, sketchy lending on a nationwide scale?
A new beginning I see but you should ask questions about who is really your candidate because appearances can be so mistaking. It is because of Clinton's incompetence and unwillingness to catch the perpetrators of the first WTC bombing, USS Cole bombing and the bombing of the American Embassy in Nairobi that 9/11 happened. The fact that one is from a radical islamic group is not really insuring and not really a sign of tolerance as well, also let's not forget that he has refused to do the pledge to the Allegiance and you can see that in one of the links I posted, and at last but not least a lot of the foreign affairs staff members he has chosen are anti semitic. From what I have seen and heard from him, you will have it a lot worse, not that I am being skeptical but I am more realistic and down to earth than you can think. After 9/11/2001 to 2008, there hasn't been a single attack on the US soil thanks to the strongfisted policy of the Republicans. The 9/11 attacks were prepared during Clinton's presidency not after.
I am not only a commie hunter/hater but also a terrorist/radical Islamist hater/hunter and anyone which approves/is sympathetic to communists/radical Islamism is not worthy to be elected. Communism and people like Luis Farrakhan, Reverend Right, Khalidi and people who are anti-American are a real danger to the USA. Everyone see things in their own way and personally to be honest, I don't want to see the USA to be lead by someone who has close ties with Radical Islam and sympathies for former terrorists like Ayers.
The Cold War mentality, ideological biases, political prejudice, and sense of racial superiority these things are deeply rooted in those racists like georges.
I want to repeat this, georges represents the racist KKK "The Cold War mentality, ideological biases, political prejudice, and sense of racial superiority these things are deeply rooted in some parts of the Western world where georges come from, Mississippi"
America is faced with resurgence of military might of Russia, economic challenge from China India, Japan, South Korea and Brazil while we are sitting here to jerk off ourselves and continue to spread racial hatrad against anyone but white (like georges).
Georges represents the KKK, racist in your face and the real biogot he represents in Mississippi. Georges is the one who will lynch a black man but hides himself behind the internet and wears a KKK hood.
georges continues to spread racial hatrad is a testimony that America is self-destructive when China will override and over run United States in less than 25 years.
The oil boom in Russia gives Russia another chance to show their military power and challenge America in their backyard.
China's economic rise certainly is tied to United States but 2 of the largest computer comnpanies Levono, and Acer are made in China and Taiwan and owned and operated by them.
Brazil is the rising star despite so much domestic problems but will rise to the occasion. Even Canada and Mexico rise because of the oil boom.
It is time to dissect the issues between Obama/Biden and McCain/Palin. It is not the time to racially charge against Obama.
Do you live in America, georges ?
georges, Do you ever work for an Afro-American who is your manager?
Blacks are part of American daily lives and georges attack on Obama clearly indicate georges is the KKK Grand Dragon of Jackson, Mississippi.
God did not destroy Mississippi coast three years ago for no purposes.
God return back today to punish those KKK Grand Dragon of Mississippi and will unleash the thunder tomorrow in the Gulf Coast in Mississippi to punish people like georges.
God did not destroy Mississippi coast three years ago for no purposes.
God return back today to punish those KKK Grand Dragon of Mississippi and will unleash the thunder tomorrow in the Gulf Coast in Mississippi to punish people like georges.
Katrina actually made landfall between Mississippi and Louisana three years ago and destroyed everything along Route 95 and not one single house, building survived in Mississippi coast except the hospital. New Orleans was flooded but was not directly hit by Katrina.
Georges, the day of judgement will come again tomorrow when GOD will punish all the racists in Mississippi ! Millions will lose their rebuilt houses again.
GOD BLESSES AMERICA,
GOD BLESSES MISSISSIPPI AND NEW ORLEANS AND THE GULF COAST !
And God blesses georges and forgives georges for being a racist !
God return back today to punish those KKK Grand Dragon of Mississippi and will unleash the thunder tomorrow in the Gulf Coast in Mississippi to punish people like georges.
Katrina actually made landfall between Mississippi and Louisana three years ago and destroyed everything along Route 95 and not one single house, building survived in Mississippi coast except the hospital. New Orleans was flooded but was not directly hit by Katrina.
Georges, the day of judgement will come again tomorrow when GOD will punish all the racists in Mississippi ! Millions will lose their rebuilt houses again.
GOD BLESSES AMERICA,
GOD BLESSES MISSISSIPPI AND NEW ORLEANS AND THE GULF COAST !
And God blesses georges and forgives georges for being a racist !
Well something is wrong here Georges because some of what you claim here is patently false.
1. As Bodie pointed out the claim Obama is a muslim is completely false.He belonged to the church that Rev.Wright was a pastor at for the last 20 years which is a christian denomination.You remember the one where Wright said the controversial things.He has never had any association with wahabism.His father who he did not grow up with was a muslim(just a regular one not a wahabi).That is his only connection to the muslim faith and btw not all muslims are terrorists.
2. It was Ayers who said about what the weathermen did in the 60s "I think we didn't do enough" not Obama.
These things you are saying are part of the right wing propaganda effort that has been going on for quite a while that play's on bias and ignorance to try to influence people not to vote for Obama.Really would be nice if people could stick to the truth and the issues,like what good tax policy is,what good foreign policy is etc.,If you notice you don't see people attacking McCain on a personal level with things that are untrue.Why does the extreme right find that neccesary?Do they think their case is so weak they can't win any other way?
Facial King had a great political joke in the jokes section that made fun of the silly wrong things that are said about Obama that I will repost here.Maybe some are gullible idiots who will believe them but hopefully Obama and his people and others will just keep knocking them down as they come along.
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georges,
Did you know Governor Sarah Palin passed a bill to "give" $500,000 to TransCanada to build a pipleline to the 48 states for natural gas and possible gas.
Alaska is the only state between Russia and Canada and plays a major role in natural resources, international politics.
Sarah Palin has more power than the President of United States to build pipelines and supply 20% of energy to the 48 states.
What I want to hear is the issue of drilling in the northeast area of Alaska. Sarah Palin argued the area is less than LAX airport and can supply hundreds to thousands of barrels of oil to lower 48 states.
georges, I am not interested in your argument that Obama is a Muslim. I am more interested at the cost of gas at the pump. I drive 2 hours a day and cost me a lot of money. I am glad Wall Street predicts the price of crude oil will go down when McCain chose Palin.
I am looking out for my own pocket because I drive long distance to work, seven days a week ! Energy policy is the main issue for me not Obama is a Muslim or not !
Did you know Governor Sarah Palin passed a bill to "give" $500,000 to TransCanada to build a pipleline to the 48 states for natural gas and possible gas.
Alaska is the only state between Russia and Canada and plays a major role in natural resources, international politics.
Sarah Palin has more power than the President of United States to build pipelines and supply 20% of energy to the 48 states.
What I want to hear is the issue of drilling in the northeast area of Alaska. Sarah Palin argued the area is less than LAX airport and can supply hundreds to thousands of barrels of oil to lower 48 states.
georges, I am not interested in your argument that Obama is a Muslim. I am more interested at the cost of gas at the pump. I drive 2 hours a day and cost me a lot of money. I am glad Wall Street predicts the price of crude oil will go down when McCain chose Palin.
I am looking out for my own pocket because I drive long distance to work, seven days a week ! Energy policy is the main issue for me not Obama is a Muslim or not !
Ummmm...Lovejoy.....
It doesn't appear you're particularly interested in reality, but for the record Georges is French and lives in France.
Thank you!! I am so sick of paying so much for gas, that it seems lioke I just work for gas, yeah I have to do a lot of driving to work every day, bike won't do it's too far. So my main concerns are lowering gas prices ( If they were to start "responsible drilling" and oil was to show it's face in large quantities trust me just that sight, would drive prices down, remember speculators), health care somehow got to be made more competetive therefore making it more afrodable, regulate the market again, all this free market is the cause of all this chaos (housing, credit, dollar not worth shit, monopolies), let's go back to take care of U.S. first. I give a rats ass if Palin is pro life, religious and if Obama is a muslim, pro choice. Right now conervative or liberal ain't puting food on my table for my family. I just want a fucking bussiness man/woman with a mind of a CEO that wants this country to make money. Shit look at the Russian they have been drilling and making sure they got a lot of natural gas and oil in case they have to get out and bitch slap some other country and us we debating about the birds and polar bears, before our own safety and wellbeing.
Going back to the subject, Palin's has been a an excellent choice so far, but there are still debates and time for the dems to come up with ads to downplay McCain's choice. Perharps by emphasizing that if something was to happen to him, she would become the President with the less experience ever. Therefore stating that case that unlike Obama that was chosen by the electoral to become the canditate for his party, she was not.
Before putting stickers or labels on me, I am enough openminded and tolerant but I will certainly not tolerate retarded and insulting remarks like I am a member of the KKK which is completely false and utter bullshit.
I have worked several years with black and asian managers and never had a single problem so before calling me names or whatever get your facts straight and stop talking out of your ass when you don't know me personally. First I am not from Mississippi and second you should have known that I live in France if you were long enough on the board.
So your post my dear Lovejoy is completely irrelevant because I am not an American citizen and because quick made statements which can't be proved don't make sense. Just because I disagree severely with many things with Obama is not enough justified to call me a racist. Did I insult Obama? No, then shut the hell up. I simply said that communists and radical islamists are a problem for America. Is that insulting? Not, really, it is just depicting the reality. Communism has made million of dead people and radical islamism has not made people happy.
Obama is not 100% black...he is mixed yet the media and a lot of his worshippers see him as the "first african-american"....I guess Bush was the first "german-american" or McCain is what "Irish-american"? It's stupid trying to play the race card. Obama has changed a lot of his positions in less than a year. One thing as I am not affiliated with any parties is that I have seen how liberals hate to be called that term,like it's something bad and they do a lot of flip flopping. Conservatives on the other hand brag on calling themselves that. This country needs to move beyond the race issue, blacks needs to stop crying and figure out if they want to be "african americans, blacks or that word that starts with an "n" that they like to reffer to each other but heaven's forbid someone else uses it on them) and some whites need to stop fighting so hard to erase our history and "slavery" past. By the way I am so fucking mixed (part white euro, african black, islander native, who knows what else) that to attack me with racist remarks would be innefective, to make things simply I am american.
She is all for cranking up drilling in Anwar, and where the drilling will be is a minute area within 20 million acres. She is also pushing to get the Alaskan Pipeline ramped up. She is very concerned about this country and where we are headed.
She also, after she became Governor, got rid of the private plane, the chauffeur driven limo and the chefs in the governor's residence because she didn't NEED them. She drives her OWN vehicle and cooks meals for her FAMILY. She is the kind of conservative we NEED in Washington to stop the runaway train that IS Nancy Pelosi and the democrat congress.
