Police Brutality On Soldier

[JayJohn85]

Woah I got neg repped for my comment or maybe its my other hair brains ones I was being unrealistic sure but hell if you dont watch that video and think dirty action there is something dramatically wrong with you, I rather the cop punched me to put me down than three hard men holding me down helpless as in cuffed and cheap shotting me as much as he can....They had no cause for it and if they where really men they would have done the first action then took him into custody when he was subdued and only the first action if there was cause. As for charging him with assault I guess the good old song I really like "I fought the law and the law won" is truly full of much wisdom.

 

[LukeEl]

And I thought British cops were all friendly and stuff. However their police brutality is a bit more tame then American cops. I am sure if it was over here our cops would use batons, pepper spray, a taser, and why not a few fists for good measure too.

 

[Dexter Brown]

I may have missed it, but did anything happen to the officers? The soldier shouldn't have been out being drunk and stupid, but he didn't deserve a beating like that (and no one does really)

 

[Facial_King]

Surely this is making some right-wing heads explode. The kind who love cops no matter what, and who also love (their country's) soldiers no matter what.

 

[Mrs Jolly]

And I thought British cops were all friendly and stuff. However their police brutality is a bit more tame then American cops. I am sure if it was over here our cops would use batons, pepper spray, a taser, and why not a few fists for good measure too.

Really. Back in my day they used to have a "suss law" where you could be arrested on suspiscion of a crime and held without charge for 36 hours. They didn't take people down the station for tickling sessions.

And there was fuck all you could do about it.

I know Wigan police well. I was at this game, a semi final played at Wigan. (See below) After it ended I was forced by a policeman on horseback to get the train to St Helens. I lived in Liverpool at the time and had travelled to the game by car. Everytime I asked to go to my car he told me I was going to get my fucking face pushed in if I didn't get to the station you cunt etc. I had gone to the game with a supporter of the other team and finally we were allowed to leave the station. On the way back to the car my friend got his face punched in by a Wigan fan. Oh happy times.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-elRy_0RGWo

 

[Philbert]

Yeah, yeah...bunch a pussies talking about police brutality probably never raised their voices to a hall monitor much less a police officer...
The Bobbies were called to a "drunk harrassing paramedics"...then when they arrived dufus drunk guy engages them drunkenly and was instantly a candidate for the perp...when called over, words were exchanged...anyone of ya'll know what was said? I doubt it...
When he was taken to the ground to "cuff", he began fighting the police and that is evident in the video...he did resist. Then, when the cop rolls his face a few times to get his attention, then hit him "8" times (those were light weight punches, not hard; and how lightweight someone would have to be to get hurt by them is up for discussion...)they got him "cuffed".
For those who ignore the entire class of civil workers (paramedics, Law Enforcement, Fire Department) who daily put their asses on the line for a higher sense of duty not compensated by any city anywhere in the world equal to the risk and dedication these duty-driven people put into what they do...I find you weak and despicable (vision of Daffy Duck talking to the Bunny) and so does anyone else who has served in any capacity as a military, police, or whatever.
I find the general detractors of police "en masse" on an equal footing with the lame 911 callers who get their hamburger order made wrong at MCDonalds and want the police there immediately.
I have known Law Enforcement, and a few (very few!) were a bit off...one was an obvious asshole who other officers didn't like...I don't know how he got to be a cop, but his career was coming to a bad end at the time I met him.
Rarely does a policeman turn out to be as bad as most of the thousands of perps they keep off of us daily.
While I have broken a law here and there, and have been in custody on occasion in my errant youth, I was calm and easy and no officer treated me worse than I deserved, sometimes even nicer than I expected.
:2 cents:

 

[Born2Jizz]

Woah I got neg repped for my comment or maybe its my other hair brains ones I was being unrealistic sure but hell if you dont watch that video and think dirty action there is something dramatically wrong with you, I rather the cop punched me to put me down than three hard men holding me down helpless as in cuffed and cheap shotting me as much as he can....They had no cause for it and if they where really men they would have done the first action then took him into custody when he was subdued and only the first action if there was cause. As for charging him with assault I guess the good old song I really like "I fought the law and the law won" is truly full of much wisdom.

I got neg repped too!! What the hell?!

 

[Philbert]

amplifies my oppinion about many cops.. there was a similar bad cop thread here on the board.

I am sure you have a lot to fear from Law Enforcement...
Just for your type of guy, F-K has posted many Bad Cop threads here...he never misses an opportunity to feed the antipathy of folks such as yourself.:thumbsup:

 

[Born2Jizz]

I am sure you have a lot to fear from Law Enforcement...
Just for your type of guy, F-K has posted many Bad Cop threads here...he never misses an opportunity to feed the antipathy of folks such as yourself.:thumbsup:

Ok you love cops, we get it. You didn't have to neg rep me. Hey, why don't you stop bashing everyone in THIS thread and go make a "Cops are great!" thread, and talk with people that feel the same as you. Please don't neg rep me for stupid reasons.:thefinger

 

[Ace Boobtoucher]

Rarely does a policeman turn out to be as bad as most of the thousands of perps they keep off of us daily.
While I have broken a law here and there, and have been in custody on occasion in my errant youth, I was calm and easy and no officer treated me worse than I deserved, sometimes even nicer than I expected.
:2 cents:

Does anyone else remember the epic thread MiltonWaddams started last year where I made essentially the same point that my boy Phil just made? I did like the Bugs and Daffy analogy too.

 

[Philbert]

Ok you love cops, we get it. You didn't have to neg rep me. Hey, why don't you stop bashing everyone in THIS thread and go make a "Cops are great!" thread, and talk with people that feel the same as you. Please don't neg rep me for stupid reasons.:thefinger

For you...:thefinger
And I will neg rep any fool who posts crap like you that insults the best and bravest of our society.
There are many many more members numerically of various ethnic groups that commit heinous crimes, yet you don't have the brains nor the balls to post how awful the "******s" are...yet hardly any significant percentage of Law Enforcement abuses the Badge or position; but, fools such as yourself feel it's ok to issue blanket condemnation of all LE.
I have no particular love for LE, or EMS, or any of the awesome groups of first responders...merely a profound respect and lots of gratitude and admiration for them all.

You have a foul mouth and a foul attitude towards these folks, and they'd still save your ass if you needed help. That seems to escape your "behind the keyboard" raving, and I feel like letting you know how much I despise cop-haters. Did I get that across to you? :thumbsup:

 

[D-rock]

Yeah, yeah...bunch a pussies talking about police brutality probably never raised their voices to a hall monitor much less a police officer...
The Bobbies were called to a "drunk harrassing paramedics"...then when they arrived dufus drunk guy engages them drunkenly and was instantly a candidate for the perp...when called over, words were exchanged...anyone of ya'll know what was said? I doubt it...
When he was taken to the ground to "cuff", he began fighting the police and that is evident in the video...he did resist. Then, when the cop rolls his face a few times to get his attention, then hit him "8" times (those were light weight punches, not hard; and how lightweight someone would have to be to get hurt by them is up for discussion...)they got him "cuffed".
For those who ignore the entire class of civil workers (paramedics, Law Enforcement, Fire Department) who daily put their asses on the line for a higher sense of duty not compensated by any city anywhere in the world equal to the risk and dedication these duty-driven people put into what they do...I find you weak and despicable (vision of Daffy Duck talking to the Bunny) and so does anyone else who has served in any capacity as a military, police, or whatever.
I find the general detractors of police "en masse" on an equal footing with the lame 911 callers who get their hamburger order made wrong at MCDonalds and want the police there immediately.
I have known Law Enforcement, and a few (very few!) were a bit off...one was an obvious asshole who other officers didn't like...I don't know how he got to be a cop, but his career was coming to a bad end at the time I met him.
Rarely does a policeman turn out to be as bad as most of the thousands of perps they keep off of us daily.
While I have broken a law here and there, and have been in custody on occasion in my errant youth, I was calm and easy and no officer treated me worse than I deserved, sometimes even nicer than I expected.
:2 cents:

Holy rationalizing Batman. :rofl:

 

[on]

For you...:thefinger
And I will neg rep any fool who posts crap like you that insults the best and bravest of our society.
There are many many more members numerically of various ethnic groups that commit heinous crimes, yet you don't have the brains nor the balls to post how awful the "******s" are...yet hardly any significant percentage of Law Enforcement abuses the Badge or position; but, fools such as yourself feel it's ok to issue blanket condemnation of all LE.
I have no particular love for LE, or EMS, or any of the awesome groups of first responders...merely a profound respect and lots of gratitude and admiration for them all.

You have a foul mouth and a foul attitude towards these folks, and they'd still save your ass if you needed help. That seems to escape your "behind the keyboard" raving, and I feel like letting you know how much I despise cop-haters. Did I get that across to you? :thumbsup:

"There are many many more members numerically of various ethnic groups that commit heinous crimes, yet you don't have the brains nor the balls to post how awful the "******s" are"

What kind of statement is that? You're bringing race into what is merely a thread that shows an inocent man (according to the court ruling) taking a mild beating to be fair, from police behaving like thugs.

I also loose sight of you also when you say you have a "profound respect and lots of gratitude and admiration for them all", which would obviously include the three in the video.

I understand your beef with certain petulant remarks, but you're not half quick to jump in with your own!

 

[jasonk282]

Like I stated before, we have no idea why the officers were being "abussive" to him. Well turns out that he assulted the officers first. he broke the law and sorry if you think the officers used "excessive" force, but in that situation all the police know is that the person they are looking for just assulted them and the reality is that the police MUST subdue him by anymeans necessary. If he was not fighting back and biting the officers I am sure they would not have had to try to control him.

The fact that the other judges threw this out is insane. This guy, regardles of his military service, BROKE THE LAW. The police were just doing the job they were dispatched for, he assulted them first, funny people seems to forget that he broke the law and must pay the punishment for it. Guess some people just see it black and white and some rather just jump to assumptions about bad cops.

 

[Born2Jizz]

For you...:thefinger
And I will neg rep any fool who posts crap like you that insults the best and bravest of our society.
There are many many more members numerically of various ethnic groups that commit heinous crimes, yet you don't have the brains nor the balls to post how awful the "******s" are...yet hardly any significant percentage of Law Enforcement abuses the Badge or position; but, fools such as yourself feel it's ok to issue blanket condemnation of all LE.
I have no particular love for LE, or EMS, or any of the awesome groups of first responders...merely a profound respect and lots of gratitude and admiration for them all.

You have a foul mouth and a foul attitude towards these folks, and they'd still save your ass if you needed help. That seems to escape your "behind the keyboard" raving, and I feel like letting you know how much I despise cop-haters. Did I get that across to you? :thumbsup:

Not ONCE. ONE TIME have I been "helped" or gotten "saved" by a policeman. I've had 22 years of being picked on and cited for insane things. Like honking. I've NEVER had a single positive experience with a police officer and have had well over 30 terrible ones. Everyone is allowed to disagree here and have their own opinions on things, that's what makes it a PUBLIC FORUM. You don't need to neg rep people just because they feel differently than you do.
What's this about me having a "bad mouth"? Have I sworn too much for your delicate cop-loving ears?? Because I don't count any swear words in this post. Before you tell me I have a foul mouth, why don't you stop admiring and gawking at "the saviors of society" and re-read your grammer and spelling books, because your skills are quite lacking.
Lastly, to answer your question NO. You most certainly did NOT get "across to me". AT ALL. Try again; maybe these will help you::thefinger:ban::wtf::lame::ak47::ban2::nono::violent:

 

[on]

Like I stated before, we have no idea why the officers were being "abussive" to him. Well turns out that he assulted the officers first. he broke the law and sorry if you think the officers used "excessive" force, but in that situation all the police know is that the person they are looking for just assulted them and the reality is that the police MUST subdue him by anymeans necessary. If he was not fighting back and biting the officers I am sure they would not have had to try to control him.

The fact that the other judges threw this out is insane. This guy, regardles of his military service, BROKE THE LAW. The police were just doing the job they were dispatched for, he assulted them first, funny people seems to forget that he broke the law and must pay the punishment for it. Guess some people just see it black and white and some rather just jump to assumptions about bad cops.

"in that situation all the police know is that the person they are looking for just assulted them"

Where did you read that he had assaulted them?

"This guy, regardles of his military service, BROKE THE LAW"

In what way did he break the law?


It's correct that he was wrongly identified by a paramedic, but the violence used in the arrest was purely gratuitous. Special Constable Peter Lightfoot punches him several times, but when he notices the cars coming by and slowing down, he stops. That tell's us all about how legal the arrest was.


And I'm not jumping to any assumptions, I'm basing my judgement clearly on published information, which is also what you have to base your judgement on. What is it that I've not read? I'll hapilly change my mind if there's something I've missed.

 

[Facial_King]

Ok you love cops, we get it. You didn't have to neg rep me. Hey, why don't you stop bashing everyone in THIS thread and go make a "Cops are great!" thread, and talk with people that feel the same as you. Please don't neg rep me for stupid reasons.:thefinger

No worries, I just made up for that - and then some! - with my pos rep to you!

:hatsoff::glugglug::thumbsup:

 

[jasonk282]

Where did you read that he had assaulted them?

Mr Aspinall, 24, was later found guilty of of assaulting the police offices, 1st sentence of the 3rd paragraph.

In what way did he break the law?

Assault with intent to resist arrest
This offence is created by section 38 of the Offences against the Person Act 1861. The offender may intend to resist either his own or someone else's arrest. This offence is also triable either way, and punishable by up to two years' imprisonment.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault#United_Kingdom just scroll down to the list if Aggravated asssault's. It is the 5th one in the list.

 

[Born2Jizz]

No worries, I just made up for that - and then some! - with my pos rep to you!

:hatsoff::glugglug::thumbsup:

Thank you!!:bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::nanner::hatsoff::angels:

 

[on]

Mr Aspinall, 24, was later found guilty of of assaulting the police offices, 1st sentence of the 3rd paragraph.



Assault with intent to resist arrest
This offence is created by section 38 of the Offences against the Person Act 1861. The offender may intend to resist either his own or someone else's arrest. This offence is also triable either way, and punishable by up to two years' imprisonment.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault#United_Kingdom just scroll down to the list if Aggravated asssault's. It is the 5th one in the list.

Your right, he assaults an officer, biting his leg, although it seems to be as a response to an officer assaulting him.

The video shows that at 0:54 he gets a punch in the face, subsequently at 0:56 he gets his head struck against the floor, this is quite obviously not called for then. It is after these events that at 1:03 he then bites the officer's leg.

Either way, following this (assault on a police officer) at 1:18 he gets his face scraped againts the floor, then at 1:32 he gets two more digs in the back, and a further six harder punches to his left shoulder, at 1:36. At 1:40 the officer looks up and stops punching him, why? because there are cars driving by, slowing to see what's going on. This is not how police are allowed by law to act, they can use resonable force to restrain somebody when making an arrest, however what the officer did, was clearly uncalled for, and unreasonable. I don't personally believe all police behave like this, that would be foolish. However it is also my opinion that it's equally foolish to claim all police are justified in whatever they do.

Mr Aspinall, 24, was later found guilty of of assaulting the police offices, 1st sentence of the 3rd paragraph.

All charges were overturned. The nature of the arrest was unlawful, and the appeals court ruled it so. Furthermore the Judge questioned the truthfulness of the officers' statements.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...es-POLICE.html