Phil Flash Models Fired - Good Idea?

[TheSatyrIcon]

In recent weeks there has been MASSIVE changes with the non-nude websites that belong to Phil Flash: he has fired of his popular models; SeannaTeen, Princess Blueyez, and just today, NextDoorNikki. He is going to concentrate on other models and sites.

Is this a smart move By Phil? Will his "empire' collapse now? Will the three girls still have a following? Should they do nudes?

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[tartanterrier]

Was that because the suspect models decided one day that,they were going to show more than the usual???

I need to see those pics.

Has anyone got any???

 

[ChefChiTown]

My feeling is that they wanted to either get out of the business or do more "hardcore" work. Either way, it doesn't effect my life what-so-ever.

 

[senob44]

NextDoorNikki is a favorite of mine...I haven't really downloaded any of her stuff, though since I rarely spend time looking at non-nude pics...I think if she "graduates" to nude or even hardcore, she will be well-received...of course, I am biased because I would VERY much like to look at such pics

 

[meesterperfect]

In recent weeks there has been MASSIVE changes with the non-nude websites that belong to Phil Flash: he has fired of his popular models; SeannaTeen, Princess Blueyez, and just today, NextDoorNikki. He is going to concentrate on other models and sites.

Is this a smart move By Phil? Will his "empire' collapse now? Will the three girls still have a following? Should they do nudes?

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I like some of his girls.
Megan is awesome.
And of course they should do nudes, who would say no no that.
I'm curious Satyr, Where did you get this info, got a link?
Thanks

 

[squallumz]

so, what was the problem with those girls? im sure they can find another site soon enough.

 

[TheSatyrIcon]

I like some of his girls.
I'm curious Satyr, Where did you get this info, got a link?
Thanks

Check Phil's own nn board message forum.
But hurry; he has taken down the posts that PBE and Seanna made about their firings. I don't know how long his post about firing Nikki will last; the forum members there aren't too pleased with this, especially after those two being fired too, of course.

Megan seems safe as she does nudes. But then again, Sea went topless. That was the point of contention for PBE and NDN.

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[sputnikgirl]

NN sites are just annoying. When I look for porn, I want to see something I wouldn't be able to see walking around campus. Just my opinion though...

I think if any nn model wants to make a career of it, they eventually have to do nude and hardcore. Teen Sandy for example, started on a regular modeling site, moved to nn, and is now heading towards hardcore, if not there already. I know of very few people who've had a long shelf life doing mostly nn stuff.

 

[meesterperfect]

Check Phil's own nn board message forum.
But hurry; he has taken down the posts that PBE and Seanna made about their firings. I don't know how long his post about firing Nikki will last; the forum members there aren't too pleased with this, especially after those two being fired too, of course.

Megan seems safe as she does nudes. But then again, Sea went topless. That was the point of contention for PBE and NDN.

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I couldnt find any message boards, but thanks anyway. Got a link?
For some reason I'm curious, although I too find alot of this non nude stuff annoying.

 

[squallumz]

NN sites are just annoying. When I look for porn, I want to see something I wouldn't be able to see walking around campus. Just my opinion though...

no kidding.

 

[TheSatyrIcon]

I think if you are checking nn links for nudes or sex then you're pretty much not going to find it; is like watching a gonzo vid expecting a storyline: it ain't happening.

Would I like to see PBE nude or more nudes of Nikki? Of course.

But for those that can look at nn-models for what they are offering, then I think move is quite the shocker simply as these girls still have a following that know whats in store for them, and I don't think the quality of their looks have dropped. I just don't want them to disappear like TiffanyTeen.

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[senob44]

I couldnt find any message boards, but thanks anyway. Got a link?
For some reason I'm curious, although I too find alot of this non nude stuff annoying.

As far as annoying but curious, you took the words right out of my mouth regarding nn sites...lol

 

[raBies]

Jordan Capri was my first "NN" model so to speak, katesplayground second and now my n.1 (she has own site so she had no problems starting to do nudes). Seen some NDN but will get more into her if nudes arise (the tattoos are horrible on her).

And why NN is so good? Well the tease factor of course. I watch porn (videos), but when i watch pictures i like to see girl with panties (bikinis, lingerie, you name it) and tease whats underneath...

Tell me that this isn't sexy?

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[D-rock]

If I had to take a guess I would say he must have felt that he could make more money by going with some other models. NDN is pretty much proof that it isn't impossible to not do nudes and still make out pretty well. Of course she is probably the greatest example and isn't indicative of most of the average ones. Still if the ladies saved their money right, and there isn't some weird contract clause that doesn't allow them to do it I don't know why they couldn't start up there own website. PF probably needs some of the models more than they need him.

 

[TheSatyrIcon]

If I had to take a guess I would say he must have felt that he could make more money by going with some other models. NDN is pretty much proof that it isn't impossible to not do nudes and still make out pretty well. Of course she is probably the greatest example and isn't indicative of most of the average ones. Still if the ladies saved their money right, and there isn't some weird contract clause that doesn't allow them to do it I don't know why they couldn't start up there own website. PF probably needs some of the models more than they need him.

NDN and PBE were not average looking, far from it. The do have to drop those names, however; already NDN is calling herself "The Girl Formerly Known as Nikki" and Cass has to call herself BlueyedCass now since Phil owns their "web names"...I think Phil is letting go the talent that has a solid market for simple softcore porn; will the new girls that take the girls' places be as attractive AND show the goods? Or the new girls just show the goods? The newest girls have been, well, average looking porn girls.

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[D-rock]

NDN and PBE were not average looking, far from it. The do have to drop those names, however; already NDN is calling herself "The Girl Formerly Known as Nikki" and Cass has to call herself BlueyedCass now since Phil owns their "web names"...I think Phil is letting go the talent that has a solid market for simple softcore porn; will the new girls that take the girls' places be as attractive AND show the goods? Or the new girls just show the goods? The newest girls have been, well, average looking porn girls.

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When I said average I wasn't referring to them. Just the multitude of ones that are probably out there somewhere in cyberspace, but not nearly as big as they were. Of course the same could be said for even nude models where there are some well-known ones and other that aren't as well known. In fact some non-nude models might be at a disadvantage it they went nude. There are a lot of nude models out there and a lot of competition to compete with, more than ever before, but if you’re a well known non-nude model you might want to stay that way just to keep the big fish in a small pond aspect going for yourself where you attract people that like that.

 

[TheSatyrIcon]

When I said average I wasn't referring to them.

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I understood, just lead off with that statement when I started My post.

In fact some non-nude models might be at a disadvantage it they went nude.

I totally agree.

There are a lot of nude models out there and a lot of competition to compete with, more than ever before, but if you’re a well known non-nude model you might want to stay that way just to keep the big fish in a small pond aspect going for yourself where you attract people that like that.

That's why for the longest I wrote that NDN or PBE didn't need to go nude; they still got the fans to buy the exclusive sets without shedding anything, just by being attractive, good shoots, and being accessible and glib when they posted. They still have people checking their threads here.

When they were all active, I thought TiffanyTeen, PBE and Nikki were a great line-up in a modeling group! It just boggles My mind that they are gone, two by choice of the webmaster.

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[poggy]

Well seen as 95% of non nude models end up doing topless or nude work, does this really matter. All he's really doing is moving out the old ones who are about to do more for a little higher pay. So he's bringing in some new ones that he can pay cheap.

Yes basically at the end of the day it all comes down to money as usual.

Personally apart from NextDoorNikki I wouldn't know any of them. I only knew her because of the fact she was all over the place.