Oh the irony

Nancy Pelosi had to cancel her appearance at a huge global warming demonstration......


(Wait for it)











Because of winter storms. :rolleyes:


I lol'ed
 
just.. LOL
 
yes yes, I know you were trying to be funny.

but I don't understand how people seem to think that global warming, meaning that the average temperature of the whole world is increasing, means that it will never be cold in any one spot again.
 
In fact, there are those among the scientists believing in global warming, who say, that the average temperature will hardly rise, because we might have long, dry and hot springs and summers, but also short and rainy falls and brutally cold, stormy winters. As a result of that, the average temperature will rise not that much because winter's temperatures will be so tough, that they almost balance the (high and long lasting) temperatures of the summer and bring the year's average temperature down to almost the level we have now.
They believe, that during the hot summer the CO2 level will rise to a point where the sunlight will not only have problems getting out, but also getting in. That's the moment in the summer when the weather shifts and the short fall comes. After that, when in fall all the warmth of the remaining sun beneath the "CO2 umbrella" is used up, a brutal winter starts.
What if their theories are coming true?

I don't say I believe all the "horror scenarios" we hear every day, but I wouldn't hatefully dismiss them all because of one cold winter. That's like grasping at straws...very desperate...and pathetic....
 

maildude

Postal Paranoiac
Global warming does not mean warm winters. What global warming does is this: melting of the ice caps and shelves at the poles increases sea water levels--more water and especially higher temperatures means more evaporation and therefore more clouds. Along with this higher atmospheric pressure--which occurs because of increased temperature--we see greater effect on things like jet streams and the movement and intensity of storm systems. Thus while the overall temperature of the planet is increasing, we still have "cold" winters, but with above normal amounts of precipitation and more violent storms.
 
no, no maildude. don't you understand that it's snowing? this is just voodoo nonsense you speak. :rolleyes::helpme:
 

Torre82

Moderator \ Jannie
Staff member
I like the whole literal accepting of the term global warming. No, it doesnt mean we're going to go tropical. It means hotter summers, colder winters, random weather and global analsex of the climate.

People can argue it's a hoax, a conspiracy or whatthefuckever. The reality is that it's here and whether or not it's natural (stop whining) or manmade (makes sense given the timetable) it is annoying the piss out of you, me and the general public. This weather sucks.
 
So then.... warming.... doesn't mean warming?

Hmmm... Maybe they should have chosen to call it something else. Or just maybe, these knot heads should have admitted that the earth's weather patterns are cyclical, and that since we've only really been studying weather for about 100 years, give or take, perhaps we shouldn't be shooting our mouths off about weather the planet is in danger from us, or just going through a cycle.

H
 
So then.... warming.... doesn't mean warming?

Hmmm... Maybe they should have chosen to call it something else. Or just maybe, these knot heads should have admitted that the earth's weather patterns are cyclical, and that since we've only really been studying weather for about 100 years, give or take, perhaps we shouldn't be shooting our mouths off about weather the planet is in danger from us, or just going through a cycle.

H

That all depends on what your definition of "is" is... :rofl:
 
...since we've only really been studying weather for about 100 years, give or take...

That's not quite right. Some Philosophers, monasteries and scienists in Europe (Austria, Germany, France, Greece,...) and the Middle East have been seriously studying the weather for hundreds of years, some more than a thousand years now.
Just the methods improved and the capabilities increased over the last fourty years. That's it. But we have reliable data since the beginning of the Middle Ages.

And yes, there are those who believe that weather patterns are cyclical. And they have a lot of good arguments to support that theory. Historians (or at least German historians) for example know, that there has been some sort of "small ice age" in Europe in the 14th century which even brought snow to Cologne in July and August one summer. (Just for those who have no idea about Cologne: the weather is normally about the same as in New York City, just with a little less rain over the year because Cologne is not that near to the ocean)
 

Philbert

Banned
I don't say I believe all the "horror scenarios" we hear every day, but I wouldn't hatefully dismiss them all because of one cold winter. That's like grasping at straws...very desperate...and pathetic....

Sounds like a perfect description of the global warming "chicken little" fanatics.
You don't see the irony at all...zip! right over his head.
 
And yes, there are those who believe that weather patterns are cyclical. And they have a lot of good arguments to support that theory. Historians (or at least German historians) for example know, that there has been some sort of "small ice age" in Europe in the 14th century which even brought snow to Cologne in July and August one summer. (Just for those who have no idea about Cologne: the weather is normally about the same as in New York City, just with a little less rain over the year because Cologne is not that near to the ocean)

Also don't forget about the late 1700's (American revolution era). Weather was key (one of many... trust me i know there are 64 other metrics too) for us winning that war, mainly due to cold. Delaware River was eerily covered with ice and snow. So I buy the mini-ice ages.... I mean look at the "Dark Ages" where weather was cold and, people didn't write down too much back in that era as well (not as much as pre/post "Dark Age").
 
I don't know if global warming is occurring, and I don't really care. Lung cancer, asthma, acid rain, and melanoma are all much better and more scientifically sound reasons to protect our air quality than the pseudo-scientific research of global warming, IMO.
 

Torre82

Moderator \ Jannie
Staff member
I don't know if global warming is occurring, and I don't really care. Lung cancer, asthma, acid rain, and melanoma are all much better and more scientifically sound reasons to protect our air quality than the pseudo-scientific research of global warming, IMO.

Indeed. All this discussion over here.. prevents the problem over there.. from being recognized. Stop pollution just to stop pollution. What's so 'bad science' about that? Since when did we need a real reason to stop pumping shit into our lungs? :p
 
The way I see it is global warming is the planet's version of getting a fever. When we get a fever, our body is actually fighting off disease by raising its temperature by a few degrees. After the disease is dead, the body's temperature drops back to normal level. In this case, the disease is the human race. The earth is raising its temperature by a few degrees in an attempt to rid itself of the disease. When we've been wiped out, the earth's temperature will go back down to what it normally used to be. :2 cents:
 
While ironic and kind of funny, it's a good example of why anecdotal evidence is a pretty poor way to go about figuring why things happen on a scale as complex as a planetary ecosystem. That would be like flipping the channel just as the Detroit Lions scored a touchdown and thinking them a good team.
 
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