Obama's remarks

You don't even know the man and yet you know how 'he truly is'?

Who does REALLY know him?
I only know what I see and hear, and judging by that I don't trust him, I think he is an extreme liberal and he
does not have the best interest of the working, taxpaying class of Americans who actually hold the country together both morally and financally.
But hey, people will vote for him on blind faith alone. I won't.
 
Who does REALLY know him?
I only know what I see and hear, and judging by that I don't trust him, I think he is an extreme liberal and he
does not have the best interest of the working, taxpaying class of Americans who actually hold the country together both morally and financally.
But hey, people will vote for him on blind faith alone. I won't.

fair enough
 
So you folks on the side of total parents rights think that if a 16 yr old girl gets pregnant which already kinda demonstrates parents have maybe failed in their responsiblity to be involved in her life enough.That then even if she is smart enough to want to not carry it to term and be a 16 yr old ****** that her parents can say no your having that baby.Not even to mention that the rest of us will end up paying for that as well very likely.
Like i said earlier encouraging parents to be responsible and instill smarts in their **** is a great idea but if that don't work out lets not compound the problem by requiring more teenage *******.Reminds me of the sex education debates we have had here,lots say it should be the parents that do the sex-ed.That just ignores the reality that many parents never have done that in the past very well and today with both working in many cases it just don't happen.So **** walk around clueless is the result.
why are such conservative people on a porn site? hypocrites!
 
why are such conservative people on a porn site? hypocrites!


That is a good question.Most conservatives think porn is a terrible thing that should be outlawed.That it leads to sexual *****,**** etc.Say one thing but do something else I guess is the answer which is yes the definition of hypocrisy.
 
parents should know if their under 18 years of age ******** is pregnant, I think thats a no brainer.
getting back to Obamas comments, its just another example of the way he truly is.It demonstrates again the way he truly feels about white middle/working class.
This man is a super liberal, an extreme liberal.He has hid it well in the past but its becoming more and more apparent everyday.I think not now nor any is the time for the U.S. to have an extreme left winger in office.
what do you care? you live in medellin
 
I really like the assessment of William Kristol that Obama effectively quoted Karl Marx... Go, Barack, Go! :banger:

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He needs to decide which view of religion he subscribes to though, opiate of the masses or something that has been meaningfull in his life.If he would adopt the former I would support him 100% with no regard to electability.
 
I really like the assessment of William Kristol that Obama effectively quoted Karl Marx... Go, Barack, Go! :banger:

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you know that william kristol lives in bohemian grove, right?

I don't think he's basically calling them ignorant rubes, and I don't like that Hilary's trying to paint it that way while issuing stale platitudes as a counter. But I agree with the rest of what you wrote. Kind of amazing considering how everybody complains about every politician being dishonest, yet when we get one that actually addresses some unpleasant truths it undercuts his chances of being elected. That's a pretty nasty catch-22.

this is totally true, and from hamtramck.

don't **** the machine. it's what we are.
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it is worrying, if he (barack) didn't really believe what he said he wouldn't have said anything (he had the youth vote tied up with cliche's). They (the people) Obama really belittled what used to be called "reagan democrats" and the "swing voter" generally they are that way because the democratic party has obviously abandoned them. Now although obama is not my first choice, i am very interested into getting to what his policies really are (without the coffee filter).
 
it is worrying, if he (barack) didn't really believe what he said he wouldn't have said anything (he had the youth vote tied up with cliche's). They (the people) Obama really belittled what used to be called "reagan democrats" and the "swing voter" generally they are that way because the democratic party has obviously abandoned them. Now although obama is not my first choice, i am very interested into getting to what his policies really are (without the coffee filter).

He probably is really not all that religious and just found it as something that was helpfull in his life as an aspiring politician,but thats just my personal feeling.
That term "reagan democrates" is exactly the type of people in PA that he was refering too I think.People who are realitively moderate to conservative on social issues but were economically better off with democrates in most cases.Blue collar union workers as an example.But I'm not sure who abandoned who.If Obama had said that these people had been duped and played when they voted based on issues like *** control,gays and such by republicans I think he would have been in much better shape.Maybe thats what he was trying to say and just said it poorly.Really *** rights are not going anywhere and also what happens with gay rights is not as relevant to their lives as the cost of health care,jobs disapearing,high tutition,tax burden shifted from the upper ranges to the middle class etc.People need to vote for the people that are saying they will at least try to look out for them as opposed to their bosses and not be sidetracked by superficial side issues like guns ,gays and the like.
 
You don't need cheaper gas. What you need is...

a) A functioning public transport system.

b) A fuel-efficient car.

I would like to add:
c) Efficient urban planning

...so that you can do away with b) altogether and replace it with a nice, unlimited-mile-to-the-gallon bicycle (but yes, surely, in the absence of such, those two are key).
 
That term "reagan democrates" is exactly the type of people in PA that he was refering too I think.
I think that he was referring to a vastly rural population who've become weary of a growing government apparatus who apparently find a margin of profitability (and power) in the exportation / outsourcing of meaningful employment.

What are semi fixed income people to do when both political parties currently increase govt. expenditures
. . . all in the wrong locations ?
 
what do you care? you live in medellin
I thought You'd never ask.
I care because I was born and raised in the country I loved.
But over the years, especially the last 10-15 years I watched the country turn to **** from the inside out.

I watched nice clean communitys full of hard working respectable people turn into **** holes full of scum living off the working.
Now these same type of descent hardworking people have to work 2 jobs just to get by, fucking up the ****** and living in a world of stress, and thier decreasing while the other half is thriving.
Why? because the person working their ass off trying to scrape by pays 50% + of their income while the lazy fucks sitting at home reproducing recieve it. Meanwhile I'm paying for it. Didn't want to contribute to that anymore.
But what really drove me out was people who grew up being brainwashed that this is all fine, be tolerent while we rip you off are constantly defending it.
Constantly saying good id bad and bad is good.
That whole liberal guilt thing.

But I realize I'm probably wasting my time trying to explain it.
And you talk about hypocites? Keep your head in the sand, maybe just once in a while lift your head out to se who's fucking you in the ass.
Good luck.
 
I thought You'd never ask.
I care because I was born and raised in the country I loved.
But over the years, especially the last 10-15 years I watched the country turn to **** from the inside out.

I watched nice clean communitys full of hard working respectable people turn into **** holes full of scum living off the working.
Now these same type of descent hardworking people have to work 2 jobs just to get by, fucking up the ****** and living in a world of stress, and thier decreasing while the other half is thriving.
Why? because the person working their ass off trying to scrape by pays 50% + of their income while the lazy fucks sitting at home reproducing recieve it. Meanwhile I'm paying for it. Didn't want to contribute to that anymore.
But what really drove me out was people who grew up being brainwashed that this is all fine, be tolerent while we rip you off are constantly defending it.
Constantly saying good id bad and bad is good.
That whole liberal guilt thing.

But I realize I'm probably wasting my time trying to explain it.
And you talk about hypocites? Keep your head in the sand, maybe just once in a while lift your head out to se who's fucking you in the ass.
Good luck.

Interesting. You call everyone who has chosen to stay in the country we love (not loved) and continue to try, in spite of the issues, to work out our problems together (not always amicably but together nonetheless) hypocrites. Conversely, you have elected to just give up and bail out....and yet you still feel compelled to criticize from afar without contributing anything of value to help us solve the problems. I don't begrudge anyone having the right to freely express their opinion, meesterperfect, but who is being the hypocrite here?

If the USA is the country you once "loved", why do you even give a fuck? If you have simply ceased to care about your native land, why are you so passionate in your views about it? And if you truly do care about it after all, why don't you come back here and try to become part of the solution instead of settling for playing the role of a heckling spectator in Medellin?

You say you sat and watched the country turn to **** over the last 10-15 years. I can testify to the fact that the problems of which you speak have been around a lot longer than that. Many of these problems are familial or societal in origin and have little or nothing to do with anyone being "brainwashed" or being victimized by "liberal guilt" (whatever that is) or any other political philosophy. It's really convenient to compartmentalize things in that fashion and write it all off as some left-wing conspiracy or whatever, but I fervently believe that the problems we face are more systemic than they are philosophical. Of course, that's just my opinion.

Do we have big problems in the USA? God damn right we do. How can we possibly solve them? I'm not even sure that they can be solved but I will tell you one thing for sure....they have zero chance of being solved if people who profess to truly care about the future of our nation decide to turn their back and do nothing about it from a participatory standpoint.

I totally understand your anger over the way your tax dollars were being ****** before you decided to emigrate to Colombia. I can even accept the possibility that you simply couldn't take it anymore and just had to get out and don't want to participate. However, I think it is a total dichotomy that you so freely call so many of us hypocrites when it is pretty plain to see the hypocrisy in your decision to turn your back on your country from any meaningful perspective.
 
I think Obama's more confused than 2 blind lesbians in a fish market:eek:
 
medellin is one of the most dangerous cities in the world. i'll take the good ol' USA over colombia any day
 
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