Obamacare to cost each ****** $20,000 minimum.

Just who in hell will benefit from Obamacare? Raise your hands if your insurance premiums went up this year to accommodate the new bullshit regulations discovered in Obamacare. On top of NOT helping the average ******, it will also hinder their net earnings/savings. Add this to $4/gal. gas and increased produce and food prices and it's no wonder why middle class America is going bye-bye. Yeah, sounds like a really thought-out plan. Remember, it had to be ****** in order to find out what bullshit is in it.

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Just found out who will benefit the most from Obamacare. Just in time for immigration reform. How coincidental?

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Yeah, and the fucking cock sucking Obama pretended to be fighting for the Middle Class.

What a fuckin' joke!
 
Health is for the rich people, poor people deserve to remain sick or hurt
 
I'm not sure about the rest of you guys, but my (not so fantastic) health insurance has gone up a little more than $30/month.


Health is for the rich people, poor people deserve to remain sick or hurt

And as far as this quote goes, I was completely unaware that I was rich. Although, keep raising my premiums and I'll eventually be poor enough to qualify for free healthcare.
 
I find it hard to believe it'll cost each ****** $20k minimum. Frankly I just don't think there is the money to give from the average american ******.
can somebody with a lil more impartiality confirm or deny this for me?
 
Health is for the rich people, poor people deserve to remain sick or hurt

Poor people already receive free healthcare, dental and vision. It's called Medicaid. If you're old, you have free healthcare, dental and vision. It's called Medicare. The working middle class people who are already paying for the old and poor's entitlements are the ones getting shafted.
 
I find it hard to believe it'll cost each ****** $20k minimum. Frankly I just don't think there is the money to give from the average american ******.
can somebody with a lil more impartiality confirm or deny this for me?

Ask CNN or MSNBC. I'm sure they'll procure a "Fair and balanced" report on Obamacare truths vs. myths. Just like they did with Benghazi and Sen. Menendez.
 
I find it hard to believe it'll cost each ****** $20k minimum. Frankly I just don't think there is the money to give from the average american ******.
can somebody with a lil more impartiality confirm or deny this for me?

IRS: Cheapest Obamacare Plan Will Be $20,000 Per ******

CNSNews.com) – In a final regulation issued Wednesday, the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) assumed that under Obamacare the cheapest health insurance plan available in 2016 for a ****** will cost $20,000 for the year.

Under Obamacare, Americans will be required to buy health insurance or pay a penalty to the IRS.

The IRS’s assumption that the cheapest plan for a ****** will cost $20,000 per year is found in examples the IRS gives to help people understand how to calculate the penalty they will need to pay the government if they do not buy a mandated health plan.

The examples point to families of four and families of five, both of which the IRS expects in its assumptions to pay a minimum of $20,000 per year for a bronze plan.

“The annual national average bronze plan premium for a ****** of 5 (2 adults, 3 ********) is $20,000,” the regulation says.

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You and the other socialists/leeches/slobs/hippies/lowlifes/retards can thank this **** ass, cock sucking, czar.

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Health is for the rich people, poor people deserve to remain sick or hurt

Johan you are obviously pretty smart, that i can see.
You are also very far removed from reality about this and many other situations in the US.
In the US., its not the the ones that the GOV deems poor who can't get medical benefits.
Once the GOV deems these people poor they get free medical. They even get taxis to drive them to the appointments.
Most of the people who can't get medical coverage or who simply just don't the extra money to go to the doctor are the same people who have to pay for Obummercare.
Like me.


I find it hard to believe it'll cost each ****** $20k minimum. Frankly I just don't think there is the money to give from the average american ******.
can somebody with a lil more impartiality confirm or deny this for me?

I can't.
But what number would you be comfortable with.

I have said this about 468.3 times, If all the people who claim to care so much about their fellow humans would just start a charity to help them instead of constantly
saying that other people need to pay more and if they complain they are cold hearted bigots....... then problem solved.
 
Those who rave and cheer about the government taking care of them and liking it, can kiss my ass.

All of you government-loving, socialist-wanting turds can kiss my fucking ass!

This definition sums up the majority of the ****-ass losers in here :the body of a dead person given the semblance of life, but mute and will-less, usually for some evil purpose.

You know who you are.

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The Affordable Care Act

Manmade disasters

Overseas contingincies

Paying their fair share

**** speech

I go shooting all the time

Dilation and extraction

The Ministry of Truth
 
Just who in hell will benefit from Obamacare? Raise your hands if your insurance premiums went up this year to accommodate the new bullshit regulations discovered in Obamacare. On top of NOT helping the average ******, it will also hinder their net earnings/savings. Add this to $4/gal. gas and increased produce and food prices and it's no wonder why middle class America is going bye-bye. Yeah, sounds like a really thought-out plan. Remember, it had to be ****** in order to find out what bullshit is in it.

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Just found out who will benefit the most from Obamacare. Just in time for immigration reform. How coincidental?

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Illegals, anchor babies, welfare bums, people who voted for Obama, anyone that shouldn't will benefit off the backs of hard working Americans.


Yeah, and the fucking cock sucking Obama pretended to be fighting for the Middle Class.

What a fuckin' joke!

Anyone who believes he is for the middle class has lost their mind.

Ask CNN or MSNBC. I'm sure they'll procure a "Fair and balanced" report on Obamacare truths vs. myths. Just like they did with Benghazi and Sen. Menendez.

HA! :D
 
Cheapest ObamaCare Plan: $20K

Remember when we were told that if the federal government seized control over healthcare insurance, prices would come down? To anyone gullible enough to believe such a preposterous lie, welcome to reality:

In a final regulation issued Wednesday, the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) assumed that under Obamacare the cheapest health insurance plan available in 2016 for a ****** will cost $20,000 for the year. …

The IRS’s assumption that the cheapest plan for a ****** will cost $20,000 per year is found in examples the IRS gives to help people understand how to calculate the penalty they will need to pay the government if they do not buy a mandated health plan.


If you are rich, you can afford it. If you are poor, the government will make someone else pay. If you are anywhere in between, the Democrats have screwed you royally yet again.

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The GOV has been creating and harvesting people like that for many years now Sam.
I call them ballot cattle.
they now seem to be the majority.
Example: One PREZ candidate speaking directly about cutting spending, lowering taxes, improving the economy and CREATING JOBS.
The other using class warfare while talking the whole time about more taxes, more spending.
Who won? of course the lefty media and racism were big factors too but the majority has spoken.

Make the people dependent on the GOV, then the GOV has complete control.
That's where were heading.......to me that's very scary.

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Poor people already receive free healthcare, dental and vision. It's called Medicaid. If you're old, you have free healthcare, dental and vision. It's called Medicare. The working middle class people who are already paying for the old and poor's entitlements are the ones getting shafted.

You have no clue what you're talking about. The "old" paid for their benefits and most of the "poor" paid into the system, as well. You want to reform "entitlements", start with big fat military contracts.
 
Ask CNN or MSNBC. I'm sure they'll procure a "Fair and balanced" report on Obamacare truths vs. myths. Just like they did with Benghazi and Sen. Menendez.

What's Benghazi? And What about Senator Menendez? My cable has been out and I've had to rely on the big three networks and the new york times for my news.
 
I find it hard to believe it'll cost each ****** $20k minimum. Frankly I just don't think there is the money to give from the average american ******.
can somebody with a lil more impartiality confirm or deny this for me?

Ask CNN or MSNBC. I'm sure they'll procure a "Fair and balanced" report on Obamacare truths vs. myths. Just like they did with Benghazi and Sen. Menendez.
Or you could read the article and see that the evidence it presents does not support its thesis. Protip: if your source is plastered with 'anti-liberal media' ads, it's full of ****. Which is not to say the liberal media isn't also full of ****.

That said, I don't know enough about Obamacare to be for or against it. I agree with the over all idea, but I don't know about the process - and seeing as I won't be returning to the US for any meaningful length of time if I can help it, I'm not bothered to. However...

From Fatfishblu's misleading title:
Obamacare to cost each ****** $20,000 minimum
From his source's slightly-less-misleading title:
IRS: Cheapest Obamacare Plan Will Be $20,000 Per ******
Where this number is coming from (from the IRS document sourced in FFB's OP):
"(i) In 2016, Taxpayers H and J are married and file a joint return. H and J have three ********: K, age 21, L, age 15, and M, age 10. No member of the ****** has minimum essential coverage for any month in 2016. H and J’s household income is $120,000. H and J’s applicable filing threshold is $24,000. The annual national average bronze plan premium for a ****** of 5 (2 adults, 3 ********) is $20,000.
The parts they gloss over:
No member of the ****** has minimum essential coverage for any month in 2016.
Meaning, if I'm not mistaken about it and the language surrounding it in the actual IRS document, that if you already have insurance this doesn't apply. And:
Therefore, under paragraph (a) of this section, the shared responsibility payment imposed on H and J for 2016 is $2,400 (the lesser of $2,400 or $20,000).”

All of this ignores anyway that the average price of healthcare is already approaching $20k a year in 2012, not 2016 for the same-sized ******: Premium Link Upgrade

Last I was living in the US, my catastrophic insurance (as my fellow Americans will probably know, the most minimal coverage available) bumped up +42% just for the usual inflation/rising costs - before Obamacare. And healthcare costs have been rising by leaps and bounds the last ten years - long before Obamacare.
 
You have no clue what you're talking about. The "old" paid for their benefits and most of the "poor" paid into the system, as well. You want to reform "entitlements", start with big fat military contracts.

Good call xfire. The only objection I have about what you said is: Rather than cut the military contracts, why not cut the wasteful spending in Washington?

Top 10 Examples of Wasteful Federal Spending in 2012

Federal Spending by the Numbers 2012:

A reality TV show in India. The Department of Agriculture’s Market Access Program spends $200 million a year to help U.S. agricultural trade associations and cooperatives advertise their products in foreign markets. In 2011, it funded a reality TV show in India that advertised U.S. cotton.

Studying pig ****. The Environmental Protection Agency awarded a $141,450 grant under the Clean Air Act to fund a Chinese study on swine manure and a $1.2 million grant to the United Nations for clean fuel promotion.

Amtrak snacks. Federally subsidized Amtrak lost $84.5 million on its food and beverage services in 2011 and $833.8 million over the past 10 years. It has never broken even on these services.

Using military exercises to boost biofuels. The U.S. Navy bought 450,000 gallons of biofuels for $12 million—or almost $27 per gallon—to conduct exercises to showcase the fuel and bring it closer toward commercialization. It is the largest biofuel purchase ever made by the government.

Conferences for government employees. In 2008 and 2009 alone, the Department of Justice spent $121 million to host or participate in 1,832 conferences.

Waste Book 2012:
“RoboSquirrel.” $325,000 was spent on a robotic squirrel named “RoboSquirrel.” This National Science Foundation grant was used to create a realistic-looking robotic squirrel for the purpose of studying how a rattlesnake would react to it.

Cupcakes. In Washington, D.C., and elsewhere across the country, cupcake shops are trending. The 10 cupcake shop owners who received $2 million in Small Business Administration loan guarantees, however, can only boast so much of their entrepreneurial ingenuity, since taxpayers are backing them up.

Food stamps for ******* and junk food. Though they were intended to ensure hungry ******** received healthy meals, taxpayer-funded food stamps were instead spent on fast food at Taco Bell and Burger King; on non-nutritious foods such as candy, ice cream, and soft drinks; and on some 2,000 deceased persons in New York and Massachusetts. Food stamp recipients spent $2 billion on sugary drinks alone. Improper

SNAP payments accounted for $2.5 billion in waste, including to one exotic dancer who was making $85,000 per year.

**** brewing in New Hampshire. Despite Smuttynose brewery’s financial success and popularity, it is still getting a $750,970 Community Development Block Grant to build a new brewery and restaurant facilities.

A covered bridge to nowhere. What list of government waste would be complete without a notorious “bridge to nowhere”? In this case, it’s $520,000 to fix the Stevenson Road Covered Bridge in Green County,

Ohio, which was last used in 2003.
Some of this waste hardly amounts to a rounding error by current federal budget standards. However, no spending cut is too small. Congress should root out even small instances of waste. Doing so will build momentum for it to tackle difficult, long-term budget challenges, such as entitlement program reform.

Fiscal year 2012 is the fourth consecutive year with a trillion-dollar-plus deficit. Total federal debt has surpassed $16 trillion. Federal spending reached $3.6 trillion—or 22.9 percent as a share of the economy—in 2012. Despite these frightening figures, which are on track to worsen, Congress continues to expand government.

Wasteful spending is intrinsic in big government, because government is concerned primarily with getting checks out the door and only secondarily with spending the money properly.
As both “Federal Spending by the Numbers 2012” and “Waste Book 2012” warn, it is long past time for Congress to put the brakes on this wasteful spending—full stop.

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You have no clue what you're talking about. The "old" paid for their benefits and most of the "poor" paid into the system, as well. You want to reform "entitlements", start with big fat military contracts.

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Some politicians have tried to cut them, but they still can't win.
 
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