Navy SEALs face assult charges for capturing a most-wanted terrorist

[georges]

the best way to be sure that a terrorist won't harm anyone anymore is to have him dead.

 

[Mrs Jolly]

I'd rep you but you know :hatsoff:

Every war always has casualties. That is inevitable. I don't know why it should be so damn different now. If we stopped this sensitive, public world opinion crap and actually let our military do what they do best, this war could ahve been over with and Iran would have been taken care of along with other terrorist states.

Heck, we can take out the whole middle east with just two aircraft carriers with the amount of firepower and force that are on just one of them.

But instead we are too worried about what others think. Thus we come off looking like weaklings and limp wrists in the eyes of our enemies and other countries. Then again, all they ahve to do is look at our President and see that.

When the world wants a particular person to be the President of the United States of America... that is when you vote for the other person.

Not wanting to destroy millions of innocent men women and children makes one sensitive does it. Does this mean I can continue with my habit of farting up the bedroom, leaving the seat up and staring at other women all the while retaining the "sensitive" tag?

 

[LaLiLuLeLohan]

The policy was the same under both Bushes and Clinton. Send in some missiles to remind them we can, but don't turn half the desert to glass.

Maybe radiation in the oil is a bad thing. What was Reagan's response after the Marine barracks was bombed? We have not gone into "war" mode in the Middle East yet. it is only a matter of time, and then it will be WW3.

If the US does go after the Taliban and other groups, how many muslims in the military will defend their faith before the Constitution? We know there was at least one

I get the worry over the few thousand Muslims in the military....but what about Black Water..sorry,"Ng" and the fact that it's led by a Christian Fundamentalist nut job?

Good Muslim troops have died in both theaters, and will continue to die in both theaters. There's as much reason to think that Christian troops will go rogue because we have a pro-choice president. Blanket assumptions will only prove to be self-fulfilling prophecy.

McVeigh was "at least one." And I'd say the same thing to anybody who tried to suggest that White Conservative veterans were a particular threat or cause for worry.

 

[LaLiLuLeLohan]

Why would the Seals bother to capture this target?

Since we've never learned from our mistakes at Gitmo and Abu Gharaib it's not surprising that captive prisoners are going to try to embarrass us. Based on all the chest-thumping response rhetoric in this thread (and with the way that FixedNews article is probably written)...I guess they've succeeded?

I remember the Bridge Incident in 2004. We must be very careful how we consider events like that one in the grander scheme of an Occupying Force. If we simply let ourselves be inflamed and let our passions make our decisions, we'll be occupying Iraq for 50 years...

Intelligence. Despite myth, terrorists turn over quickly once captured. A suicide bomber knows shit, so machine gunning him in his Honda on the way to a checkpoint is the thing to do. But anybody involved in planning attacks has a wealth of knowledge to share.

Unfortunately, this case will inspire Marines an SOCOM to go for the kill. By now, every insurgent knows that a busted lip might mean that three or four SEALS will have to leave the sandbox. Far more efficient than a semtex vest.

 

[jasonk282]

I know what you mean HotMega, but to the average American who has never be in contact with Blackwater, KBR and other groups, they have no idea what these people actually do. They can speculate but they never know. It's not the fact that they were attacked that pissed me of, convoys get hit ALL the time in the sandbox, it's the aftermath that pissed me off and the main reason why the Marines went gung ho into Fallujah in the first place. And the fact that he is now going to cry about a bloody lip, really? I though in the Middle East men were men, apprently this guy is a whiny bitch.

So we treat terrorist unkindly, do you really think the thousands of POW's in Vietnam and WWII were welcomed with open arms? Ever hear of the Batan Death March? There is a state of war between the USA and terrorist, I feel that if they attack American troops/contracters that we give them no mercy and no quarter. Treat them as the soldiers that they want to be, not some "victim". They are killing Americans and we want to show mercy to them, does that really make sence to anyone? If so then I say pick up a gun and go to the sandbox or Afghanstian and see how mercyful they really are.

 

[Facial_King]

More terrorists are being created every day in Iraq and Afghanistan than captured or killed - by a long shot.

 

[Philbert]

Let's see...titsrock and Facial-King have dropped by...any more bleeding heart liberals wanna share their "hiding under the bed philosophy"? Ya know..."if we suck their dicks they won't hurt us maybe" kinda wisdom?
Back to a more real vision of things as they are...
One of the reasons the Soviets were able to keep such a large area of the world under control was the reality of the swift and hard reaction that would follow if anyone attacked the Soviet military/industrial complex.
While I much prefer the Western concept of personal freedom and diplomacy in general, one must learn to take the best results of another situation and apply the knowledge to current events.
When dealing with an enemy that is not only dedicated to the utter destruction of the core social structure of your culture but is capable of doing so, using proven failure methods is a sure guarantee of failure, and deservedly so.
Hope for reason and logic from an enemy, OK...in a best possible future, that may be a reality.
However..."the boy fell out of bed and woke up; he realized it was just a dream, and etc"...the only test of worthiness of survival is...surviving.
I don't mind wishing I was a better person and trying harder to make the world a better place...later. After destroying the real and deadly threat of Islamic Jihadis and anyone else threatening my immediate family and our way of life. Survival of the winners is the actual system that dictates how the "World" turns out...a future of Western values suits me just fine.
And those who need to hide under their beds and complain loudly how awful the rest of us are... don't complain so much about being despised and ignored. No one will care...

As for millions of women and children, men and old folks dying...how can there be a choice which way the destruction goes...for example, Iran or the USA?
Are you seriously suggesting you prefer the dead to be Americans, British, French, etc...? Unbelievable...well, not really, but still hard for anyone rational to grasp how someone would prefer their own people die horribly, if it comes to a nuclear conflict.
Waiting until a mushroom cloud rises above New York or Los Angeles, Houston or Seattle is insane and unacceptable.

Let loose the SEALs of War...to paraphrase an often used quote.

 

[L3ggy]

to make the world a better place

It's Not About Changing The World, It's About Doing Our Best To Leave The World The Way It Is, It's About Respecting The Will of Other, And Believing in Your Own.

 

[24788]

If they get charged or kicked out of the seals I'd freak. That's just shit.

 

[~~whimsy~~]

Let people continue to talk about peace and love. When we no longer have a military to defend our right to talk... that is when they wish they have shut their mouths and let them fight, kill, and win.

 

[titsrock]

Let's see...titsrock and Facial-King have dropped by...any more bleeding heart liberals wanna share their "hiding under the bed philosophy"? Ya know..."if we suck their dicks they won't hurt us maybe" kinda wisdom?

Back to a more real vision of things as they are...
One of the reasons the Soviets were able to keep such a large area of the world under control was the reality of the swift and hard reaction that would follow if anyone attacked the Soviet military/industrial complex.
While I much prefer the Western concept of personal freedom and diplomacy in general, one must learn to take the best results of another situation and apply the knowledge to current events.

:rofl2:

Wow Philby. I can see by this post you really have a handle on things I bet you sit back in your basement and dream about ways to hunt down Marko Ramius, eh?

Let loose the SEALs of War...to paraphrase an often used quote.

Now I know that was ripped straight from the pages of Clancy...

 

[E-Ann-Hilden]

I think it is terrible these guys are being tried, a true shame! But have we not tried this back and forth effort with aggressivness since 2001? Iraq is still unstable, Iran has a on going nuclear program, Yemen is in dissary, Afghanistan is a mess, Pakistan drawn into war, North Korea tests missles, Somolia has dissents along with many other Africa nations. What have we achieved so far?

I am not for a lackluster effort in any intiative that is planned with full effort, a true goal and exit plan, but this bravo of chest beating and countless American lives really has not made the world safer.

This has been the plan under two adminstrations. I am very open to new options!

 

[jasonk282]

I think it is terrible these guys are being tried, a true shame! But have we not tried this back and forth effort with aggressivness since 2001? Iraq is still unstable, Iran has a on going nuclear program, Yemen is in dissary, Afghanistan is a mess, Pakistan drawn into war, North Korea tests missles, Somolia has dissents along with many other Africa nations. What have we achieved so far?

I am not for a lackluster effort in any intiative that is planned with full effort, a true goal and exit plan, but this bravo of chest beating and countless American lives really has not made the world safer.

This has been the plan under two adminstrations. I am very open to new options!

You will get a new plan after Thanksgiving, when Obama will address the nation and let us know what he is going to do.

But that has nothing to do with how we are "treating" captivtives that declare war on the US.

 

[Legzman]

he's a most wanted...TERRORIST!!! He is the type who wouldn't think twice about strapping a bomb to his chest and walking into a crowded airport, shopping center, sporting event, etc...and killing as many people as possible and injuring countless others. Yet he gets a bloody lip and we (our "justice" system) actually lets him press charges??? What the fuck? If I were the judge I'd punch him myself!!! Hell might just execute him there in the court room.

I'll never understand our judical system. It lets murders and rapist walk free, throws the book at marijuana smokers, allows people to win frivolous law suits. And terrorists for some strange fucking reason all the sudden have "rights" They're only right is the right to die! Just kill them before they kill hundreds or more! I think a president needs to take a serious look at this system and completly overhaul it. It's completely fucked!

 

[Philbert]

:rofl2:

Wow Philby. I can see by this post you really have a handle on things I bet you sit back in your basement and dream about ways to hunt down Marko Ramius, eh?





Now I know that was ripped straight from the pages of Clancy...

I haven't read Clancy for years...so what?
Hey dufus...we don't have basements in Houston...and no, I don't sit around dreaming about stuff. I have seen what I have seen, been where I have been, and I know what a crock the whole let's just get along theory is...your answer to most everything that requires balls and hard thinking.
So...discuss tits and ass, you got something to contribute, maybe...discuss world events and solutions to same...you sound silly and pretentious as well as really weak. Comes from hiding under the proverbial bed and yelling at the bad guys who can't hear your invective from under there.:rofl:

 

[titsrock]

We are not the world's police force anymore, Philby. We can't afford it, and we have better things to do with our tax money than warmonger in far away countries.

The "let's just get along theory" works great when you keep your nose out of other countries' business or you let neighboring countries deal with the problem that is local to them, but faraway to us.

Isolationism is the new LIBERAL FOREIGN POLICY--:thumbsup:

 

[Crazy4theBrat]

We have a bunch of panty waist politicians out there who are more worried about losing a vote from one of their hippie voters than they are about justice or the security of the country.

In the future, hopefully the Seals will realize what kind of leaders they are dealing with and just put a bullet through the rag covered head of the terrorist they are searching for. It's a big desert out there - lots of places to bury the foul smelling body of a worthless piece of garbage like this.

 

[Facetious]

Ugh. You just love arguing don't you?

You're just now noticing this ? It's called dialectics :hatsoff:

 

[Red Spyder]

Being Thanksgiving Day, I will thank God for such men as those SEAL's exist nowadays who not only put their lives on the line for our security but now thanks to our politicians are also putting their freedom, career, and reputation on the line. God be with those guys and their families and may anybody who had anything to do with accusing them of a "crime" be shamed.

 

[Philbert]

We are not the world's police force anymore, Philby. We can't afford it, and we have better things to do with our tax money than warmonger in far away countries.

The "let's just get along theory" works great when you keep your nose out of other countries' business or you let neighboring countries deal with the problem that is local to them, but faraway to us.

Isolationism is the new LIBERAL FOREIGN POLICY--:thumbsup:

If ya just gotta make up silly little kid names...how about "Tits"? or "Titties"? No one will show you respect and use your screen name...does that make you feel better, ittiebittietitty?
And yes, I want the fighting in other, far away places...you are so lame to prefer it here at home...nice to wish civilian casualties on my daughter, someone's Mom, or their wife. Instead of the families of the Islamic Jihadists...
Isolationism is the new LIBERAL FOREIGN POLICY...Same Ol' Shit, nothing new or different. Wrong before, still wrong and always will be the fool's choice of reactive defense.
Pre-empt their ass! Drop a big boom on the enemy when he's planning to blow up the High School, not after.