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Yes, attack where he's from instead of what he's saying, that really bolsters your argument.
My Paycheck got Smaller and My Hours got Cut
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Yes, attack where he's from instead of what he's saying, that really bolsters your argument.
Now you are exposing your ignorance. Asking me to bow out of a discussion when I am correct seems to be a bit presumptuous dontcha think?
In fact, since 2009 the government workforce has increased by over 11 percent while the private sector has decreased over 2.5 percent. And the majority of those government jobs have been added for census workers the failing postal service and IRS employees to handle Obamacare.
Oh that wasn't an attack. Being that knowledge of the US Constitution is a big part of how I earn my living, I take exception to people from other parts of the world trying to explain to us what it means or how it should be interpreted.
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"Exposing my ignorance", you say? I posted a link, and will be more than happy to post it again, that exposes your ignorance.
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...nomy/off-the-charts-shrinking-government.html
Don't waste my time with hyperbole.
Yeah, I can't read a document written in English because I'm not from the US. Sure.
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Explain how this Obama "expansion of government" is significantly different from what previous administrations have engaged in.
Oh a NY Times chart. It has to be true.
Here are some facts:
In only one month of Bush’s presidency was the federal workforce larger than it was during the month of Mr. Obama’s presidency when the federal workforce was at its smallest.
With the exception of that one month, Mr. Obama’s minimum is larger than Mr. Bush’s maximum.
You want charts? We got charts!
And yours was not cited from the OMB.
http://www.aei-ideas.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/9.10.12-Strain-Post-1.png
And you forgot the little part that Bush's maximum was never to the level of Obama's minimum. Why would I remind you of that? I will take a liberal's money just as quick as I will a conservative.
It would help if you would learn how to spell various words of the English language properly.
It would help if you would learn how to spell various words of the English language properly.
I can spell "jingoism" if that helps.
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Put those into real numbers, and let's compare.
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i already got another job set up today.
damn i'm smooth.
damn i'm smooth.
How do you know someone mentioned that he must be off your ignore list when no one quoted that post? Unless, that person is off your ignore list!
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Of course they don't sit in back rooms and do that! They sit in relatively plush conference rooms on the 10th floor of the HQ bldg in Troy, Michigan. That's where we sat anyway.
If I'm not mistaken, MP wasn't a full-time employee to begin with. Companies hire temps and part-time employees both to address temporary/short-term spikes in demand and also to reduce the overall cost of labor even in good times. It's a cheap, quick way to increase (or maintain) capacity. And since you can run them through like cattle, you can even avoid paying overtime if you schedule them right. What's changed for Meester is not that he went from full-time to part time (according to his description of the events), it's that he now has to move to a lower number of hours because his employer doesn't want to offer him a benefits package. They didn't before and they don't want to now. Whether because of ObamaCare or something else, that's the bottom line. Benies (rule of thumb) add about 25% to the cost of labor for each employee. That's the rough number that I've typically used on projects that involve increasing or decreasing "heads" in the labor category. So in a way you're right (that this is an unintended consequence of ObamaCare), but with all due respect, you're missing the bigger picture. The true cause is that companies don't want to pay benefits to certain employees. And whatever they have to do to avoid that, they will do.
You are correct that technology has driven a decrease in the need for lower skilled and manual labor (though it's dramatically increased the demand for higher skilled workers with certain tech skills - especially in manufacturing and engineering related fields). And you are correct that companies don't do this simply to be greedy or evil - not really. I mean, greed to one is simply a profit margin to another. How much is too much? I don't know. Business is about enhancing returns and profits. And part of that is cost avoidance, where possible and practical - and sometimes where it's not so practical. One of my ilk proposed a project to reduce medium to longer term labor costs by "encouraging" the early retirement and laying off of older employees who were continuing to rack up pension credits. Newer employees were not eligible to join the pension plan. And getting rid of the older workers also had a side-benefit of reducing medical costs and earned vacation credits. And of course, the newer employees could be had for about 75% of the hourly cost (before benefits) of the older workers. The project was approved and over the course of a couple of years they weeded out a large portion of the older (experienced
) workers. And the project did save a significant amount of money on its face. But where damage was done was because so many people, who had a vast wealth of experience, wound up leaving within a short span of time.And I only offer this tidbit because this forum is anonymous - in a court room, I'd turn into Sgt. Schultz (I know nothing! Nothing!). But take note of the fact that women of child-bearing age are not overly plentiful in certain industries, especially technology-driven manufacturing and industrial engineering fields. Have you noticed that? Wonder why? Part of that is probably because there is not a huge supply of women who have pursued degrees in those fields and don't have much experience. But from personal experience I can tell you that younger women, who might get pregnant and be gone for 6 months plus (and yes, the government mandates that they be given time off), are intentionally not hired in very large numbers by some companies. I don't know how prevalent that practice is. But I can tell you that it's not a coincidence. Two companies ago, I sat in a meeting where one person said that he would not hire women for his department unless they were old, ugly and could prove they were sterile. And though less crude about it, most of the tech and manufacturing companies that I've dealt with over the past 18 years or so have had that same (unwritten) rule. Is this not an example of a govt. mandate affecting employment? I :dunno: Some/most would say it's just discrimination. But it does enhance profits/save on medical and benefit costs. Much like "chopping" the older guys at that other company, that's also not one I'd be proud to support though. But these things do happen. It's easy to turn a blind eye but it's hard to keep clean hands.
MP, I feel for you. Whether we have had disagreements in the past or not, I hate to see anybody struggling to make ends meet. And while I'm not going to offer you any life advice, considering that you mentioned taking care of your daughter, I would suggest that you pursue full-time employment that includes benefits. I understand that going from 39 hours per week max to 29 hours per week max (or whatever it is) will make a difference in what you can or can't do for your kid. But even at 39 hours, with no benefits, I'm unclear on how you can provide medical coverage for her. Even with an improving economy, securing a full-time job may not be easy, depending on your field (some fields are begging for people right now - if you have an engineering degree and a decent resume, I could get you a job tomorrow) - but to provide for a child, you are going to have to find a job with benefits. I don't see any way around that. Good luck to you. :hatsoff:
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