My Paycheck got Smaller and My Hours got Cut

Of course I could always point out that if we went with a full government supplied single player health system and socialized medicine there wouldn't be any false scare of companies trying to use the new health care laws as a lame excuse to cut other benefits and hours. If we had that companies would be more competitive because they would no longer have to be in the health care business at all. Not that they aren't willing to invent other excuses to cover doing those things for people dumb enough to believe that's the real reason they are doing it and not as a cover for maximizing profit. Of course, ironically, the same people that are bitching about companies being hurt by "Obamacare are mostly the same people that would have went to the ends of the earth to avoid any actual government run health care because of blind ideological concerns and being afraid of the socialist bogyman despite it being such an blatantly good idea that the rest of the civilized Western world uses because it's such a blatantly good idea. So if for some reason they feel screwed over then their fault.

They didn't want the problem fixed. They just wanted theirs at the expense of throwing everybody else out to the wolves if need be. In the act of doing many of them just hurt themselves. It would kind of be poetic justice if they stakes weren't so high and bad things weren't happening to people.
 

meesterperfect

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In my case, i am the only part time employee with my position in the whole company, and its a big company.
The next guy with the least seniority after me has 15 years with the company. I have a rare trade. They are not using this as an excuse to cut my hours.
Word is that they are gonna be offering me full time soon mainly because of this. It because of Obamacare and the way its structured.
There is just no way that all these businesses all over the country are using Obummercare as an excuse to cut hours, they could do that anyway, anytime with or without it.
 

xfire

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So basically Obamacare is going to land you a full-time position with your company. And you're bitching.
 

Rey C.

Racing is life... anything else is just waiting.
In my case, i am the only part time employee with my position in the whole company, and its a big company.
The next guy with the least seniority after me has 15 years with the company. I have a rare trade. They are not using this as an excuse to cut my hours.
Word is that they are gonna be offering me full time soon mainly because of this. It because of Obamacare and the way its structured.
There is just no way that all these businesses all over the country are using Obummercare as an excuse to cut hours, they could do that anyway, anytime with or without it.

I'm sorry but that makes no sense. Either someone in HR is yanking your chain (nah, HR people never do that!) or your explanation of the events lost me. You said:

Well, this week it happened. The Deductions in my paycheck increased and the Company sent a memo saying that no part timer can get more than 29 hours per week.
Why? Obamacare.

The FICA payroll deductions in your paycheck simply went back to the level they were before. But does that make a difference to some people? I'm sure that it does. But it was announced right up front that it was a temporary measure. And it was the GOP that opposed it in the first place. And if you recall, no one on the right was prepared to lay down on the railroad tracks to preserve it (the way they have been for the carried interest rules for the hedge fund boys ;)).

But back to this Obamacare thing. So are they keeping you at part-time to avoid paying you benies or not? That's really all it comes down to. Because all Obamacare does is mandate that they chip in on a healthcare plan for you. If they make you full-time, then they clearly have no issue with paying you benies (health, dental, 401k and whatever else is offered to full-timers). But if you were part-time and had no benies before, and then they knocked you down to 29 hours (the Obamacare threshold), then they do indeed have an issue with paying you benies. Otherwise, they'd keep you at 35 hours, 38 hours, 39 hours per week, or just make you full-time right now, and pay your insurance premium.

In the last two sentences, you say that there's no way that businesses are using Obamacare as an excuse to cut hours, but in your first post, you said it was Obamacare that "made" them do it. So which is it? :dunno: Whether you realize it or not, whether you accept it or not, businesses seek to reduce costs and/or enhance profits in whatever way they can. And because labor is usually the largest expense that most businesses have, that's typically the area that they look at first. So again, temps and part-timers are a way to reduce overall labor costs (even if you don't pay them less per hour, you still save on the benefits package... that they don't have). Whoever gave you that song & dance (in HR?) is just lying to you if they told you otherwise. If I get rid of 10 full-time people who each make $50K a year, then I get a cost savings credit for their salaries plus the value of their benefits for a year on my project. And if I have to hire 10 part-timers, who will also make $50K a year (but get no benefits), to replace those full-time people, I get the difference between those new (lower) net wage costs and the ones I eliminated: net cost savings.

Best of luck to you, dude. Really. But this thread reminds me of a conversation I had about a year ago with some guys who I was going to let work on a weekend to finish a plant project for me. Instead of contractors, I was going to pay them double time and help out the "home team" players... or so I thought. But at the last minute, they bowed out. Why? Well, they claimed that they figured out how much extra "tax" they'd have to pay on that double time and it wasn't worth it. Uh... wait... what?! :facepalm: They didn't know the difference between withholding and actual tax. Rather than taking the time to explain to them that while $50K a year with no overtime and $50K a year with lots of overtime do indeed yield different withholding amounts, they do not yield different final tax bills. The income tax bills would be exactly the same. Fuck it. I hired the contractors.

So rather than get any deeper into this, again, as long as you're getting whatever hours you want/need and you're doing what you need to do to take care of your kid, I guess it's all good. And don't be lulled into believing that you have a (truly) rare trade. If your trade was indeed that rare, then they'd have either hired you full-time right off the bat or put you on a defined contract (with or without benefits).
 
i'm a drain on society?
are you an asshole or just stupid?
I make a high hourly wage, and for about 5 months out of the year i could work unlimited hours.
It was perfect for my situation. Now it's ruined by the GOV. I'm sure this is happening to a lot of people now, thanks to Obama, pelosi, and the idiots who voted for them.
this is only going to hurt the economy more

Go suck some dick at a bachelor party you crying shit, and guess what, you don't have to claim it either, LOL!!!!
 

meesterperfect

Hiliary 2020
nice post Rey.
RAQS, you got me. I've been bested. I know I can't come up with anything to respond to that.
I know when I'm out of my league too.
Go with Jesus bro.
 
Well, this week it happened. The Deductions in my paycheck increased and the Company sent a memo saying that no part timer can get more than 29 hours per week.
Why? Obamacare.
So now I must look for another part time job if I wanna eat and maintain a roof and take care of my child.

I'm sorry but if this is now beginning to affect millions of working people like this across the country, how is this helping?

Are you doing better under Trump?
 
Are you doing better under Trump?


FFS he's been in office for 2 months. The question should be were you doing better under W. than Obama? My health insurance premiums were a hell of a lot lower before the AFFORDABLE Care Act.

Thanks for caring, you fucking sanctimonious Democrats. Going by their argument, it's the robber baron vs. the do-gooder.

“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. They may be more likely to go to Heaven yet at the same time likelier to make a Hell of earth. This very kindness stings with intolerable insult. To be "cured" against one's will and cured of states which we may not regard as disease is to be put on a level of those who have not yet reached the age of reason or those who never will; to be classed with infants, imbeciles, and domestic animals.” -C.S. Lewis

why I'm no longer a liberal.
 
FFS he's been in office for 2 months. The question should be were you doing better under W. than Obama? My health insurance premiums were a hell of a lot lower before the AFFORDABLE Care Act.

Thanks for caring, you fucking sanctimonious Democrats - going by their argument, it's the robber baron vs. the do-gooder.

“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. They may be more likely to go to Heaven yet at the same time likelier to make a Hell of earth. This very kindness stings with intolerable insult. To be "cured" against one's will and cured of states which we may not regard as disease is to be put on a level of those who have not yet reached the age of reason or those who never will; to be classed with infants, imbeciles, and domestic animals.” -C.S. Lewis

I did terrible under Bush. I couldn't afford healthcare. 401k was terrible. And it culminated in me losing everything in 2008. Obama was literally my savior.
 
Are you better off today than you were 3 months ago?
 
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